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Post by peppermint on May 28, 2010 18:19:26 GMT -5
All a Christian can do is tell the person what the Bible says about the situation. You can't lock someone up in a room for nine months then make her want the child. I say you are pro-adoption at heart and you feel I'm pro-abortion. We will agree to disagree.
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Post by denounced on May 28, 2010 18:22:28 GMT -5
"It's equally unfair to demand a woman who is unstable have a child knowing full well her child will end up in foster care." Peppermint
Is it unfair for a person who gets Alzheimer's to be a burden upon their families? You do not have the money to afford in-home, 24 hour care. So by the demand of necessity, they must be put in a rest home (foster care). Well this is the dangerous, slippery, unconstitutional slope that Roe v. Wade ushered in; yes, euthanasia. It relinquishes one from personal responsibility. The very same arguments used for justifying abortion are used for euthanasia.
It's easy to ignore personal responsibility in all of this, and then use words like DEMAND and DICTATE to buttress your argument.
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Post by denounced on May 28, 2010 18:40:11 GMT -5
All a Christian can do is tell the person what the Bible says about the situation. You can't lock someone up in a room for nine months then make her want the child. I say you are pro-adoption at heart and you feel I'm pro-abortion. We will agree to disagree. I believe that pro-life is pro-responsibility, so we disagree period. The old, agree to disagree (ATD) is a cop out. To believe under the circumstance of foster care that a woman should have the "right" to murder is sinful and ungodly. Scripture and Church history is on the innocent baby's side, and not yours. Deny life because of foster care! How about personal responsibility for your actions. And people wonder why many churches are useless. These conversations, absent non-believers is exactly why. |
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Post by map2010 on May 28, 2010 21:26:20 GMT -5
All a Christian can do is tell the person what the Bible says about the situation. You can't lock someone up in a room for nine months then make her want the child. I say you are pro-adoption at heart and you feel I'm pro-abortion. We will agree to disagree. I believe that pro-life is pro-responsibility, so we disagree period. The old, agree to disagree (ATD) is a cop out. To believe under the circumstance of foster care that a woman should have the "right" to murder is sinful and ungodly. Scripture and Church history is on the innocent baby's side, and not yours. Deny life because of foster care! How about personal responsibility for your actions. And people wonder why many churches are useless. These conversations, absent non-believers is exactly why. You are illogical. She wasn't saying to kill the baby because it will end up in foster care. 1. No one knows YOUR story the way YOU do. Who are we to question someone's decisions with their body? 2.The woman may hate the child she's carrying. 3. What if she is making the decision to abort because she knows she is a danger? 4. What is the pro-life movement doing to help those forced to carry other than referring them to an adoption agency? 5. Murder is a sin, so is lying, fornication, idol worship, gossip, envy, dishonoring your parents, swearing, worrying, laziness, I could go on. You get the picture. |
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 29, 2010 21:44:40 GMT -5
I myself believe that abortion is really no big deal. Abortions kill very few babies around the world. More kids die from miscarriages and stillbirths than die from abortions. So in the end, life isn't promised to anyone.
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Post by denounced on Jun 2, 2010 5:34:59 GMT -5
I believe that pro-life is pro-responsibility, so we disagree period. The old, agree to disagree (ATD) is a cop out. To believe under the circumstance of foster care that a woman should have the "right" to murder is sinful and ungodly. Scripture and Church history is on the innocent baby's side, and not yours. Deny life because of foster care! How about personal responsibility for your actions. And people wonder why many churches are useless. These conversations, absent non-believers is exactly why. You are illogical. She wasn't saying to kill the baby because it will end up in foster care. 1. No one knows YOUR story the way YOU do. Who are we to question someone's decisions with their body? 2.The woman may hate the child she's carrying. 3. What if she is making the decision to abort because she knows she is a danger? 4. What is the pro-life movement doing to help those forced to carry other than referring them to an adoption agency? 5. Murder is a sin, so is lying, fornication, idol worship, gossip, envy, dishonoring your parents, swearing, worrying, laziness, I could go on. You get the picture. "1. No one knows YOUR story the way YOU do. Who are we to question someone's decisions with their body?" MAP It's funny that a woman is given the right to kill another with her "SUPPOSED" right to do as she chooses with her body, but that she does not have the right to commit suicide without the law intervening and arresting her for that. "4. What is the pro-life movement doing to help those forced to carry other than referring them to an adoption agency?" MAP A woman is not forced to carry in this country. How does the pro-choice movement help kids and ADULTS to understand personal responsibility? "5. Murder is a sin, so is lying, fornication, idol worship, gossip, envy, dishonoring your parents, swearing, worrying, laziness, I could go on. You get the picture." MAP No I don't. Are you saying that abortion is murder in the U.S.? Some of the sins you mentioned have here and now consequences. You get the picture. Some sins have legal punishments associated with them. It's wild, you can go to jail for lying, but not killing a baby in the womb. Now who's illogical? Please elaborate on what she was saying about foster care? APIL, statistics please. |
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Post by denounced on May 17, 2011 5:38:51 GMT -5
 A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said: 'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is not even 1 year old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together. So the doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?' She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.' The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.' She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request. Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms. The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child! 'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be OK with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.' The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point. He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The crime is the same! If you agree, please SHARE. Together we can help save precious lives! "Love says I sacrifice myself for the good of the other person. Abortion says I sacrifice the other person for the good of myself..." Jesus sacrificed Himself for the good of sinners! That's perfect love! -unkown |
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