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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:06:38 GMT -5
No I didnt say that South.
Juicy stated that SHE does not agree with what I've said about the General Consensus of Zetas in the South. It has NOTHING to do with whether AKA's or shallow or not. I just wanted to know if the Percentage of Attractive Zetas is equal to that of AKA's in the SOUTH. Dont try to add things to my comments sweetheart.
Example, Out of 100 Zetas, how many would you say are attractive?
Out of 100 AKA's how many would you say are attractive Nupe, I don't agree with your general consenus of what you are saying about greeks period. There are folks who take the stereotypes of our orgs. and just run with them, as you are doing. Alpha Kappa Alpha doesn't state anywhere that we won't take someone if they aren't physically attractive. That isn't one of our requirements. Pretty girls is just a stereotype. And for the record, being a pretty girl is an attitude. I have seen gorgeous and ugly members of every org. But, Nupe, since you are running off of stereotypes so hard here, you yourself said Kappas are attractive. By that statement alone, and based off what others have said about your pictures especially on the old OO, then you shouldn't be a Kappa, based of your statement and what others have said about your apperance.
I'm just saying.
Lol..and in no way does that bother me. Why? Because this is a MB. Pictures are Pictures. Some may think I'm attractive, others may not. Such is life. But it doesnt change the fact that MOST think I'm attractive from what I'VE witnessed and heard in PM's. But thats not relevant at all.
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Post by Southie on Mar 12, 2008 10:08:26 GMT -5
Nupey,
You are constantly pointing to apperances and stating that the AKAs have the more attractive members based on the tradition of a stereotype. Now, you have clowned the Zeta's based on what you have observed, so what about the Regional Differences regarding the apperance of Kappa's? Now, based on stereotype, they are the pretty boys, usually light, nice grade of hair, etc. Do you fall into that category? Since, you live in the South and they stick with the stereotype does this apply to you?
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Post by Southie on Mar 12, 2008 10:10:17 GMT -5
In fairness,
The stereotypes of any of the D9 orgs, does not hold true in the Chi. I guess this must be due to progressive thinking Mr. Nupey.
Just a northern observation
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:11:29 GMT -5
Nupe, I don't agree with your general consenus of what you are saying about greeks period. There are folks who take the stereotypes of our orgs. and just run with them, as you are doing. Alpha Kappa Alpha doesn't state anywhere that we won't take someone if they aren't physically attractive. That isn't one of our requirements. Pretty girls is just a stereotype. And for the record, being a pretty girl is an attitude. I have seen gorgeous and ugly members of every org. But, Nupe, since you are running off of stereotypes so hard here, you yourself said Kappas are attractive. By that statement alone, and based off what others have said about your pictures especially on the old OO, then you shouldn't be a Kappa, based of your statement and what others have said about your apperance.
I'm just saying.
Lol..and in no way does that bother me. Why? Because this is a MB. Pictures are Pictures. Some may think I'm attractive, others may not. Such is life. But it doesnt change the fact that MOST think I'm attractive from what I'VE witnessed and heard in PM's. But thats not relevant at all.
I'm assuming thats your way of taking a cheap shot. Cool!That is not my way of taking a cheap shot. If I want to take a shot, I will. I'm just keeping it real. You are running so hard on these stereotypes, and I'm saying that others have said on OO that you yourself aren't attractive. So based off what others think, you shouldn't be a Kappa. See how retarded that is? And what if you went to an interest meeting and the Kappas were like you ugly as hell, next! Obviously they didn't do that. All I'm saying to you is, if you really believe these stereotypes and hold them to be true, you got a lot more growing to do. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:12:40 GMT -5
Nupey, You are constantly pointing to apperances and stating that the AKAs have the more attractive members based on the tradition of a stereotype. Now, you have clowned the Zeta's based on what you have observed, so what about the Regional Differences regarding the apperance of Kappa's? Now, based on stereotype, they are the pretty boys, usually light, nice grade of hair, etc. Do you fall into that category? Since, you live in the South and they stick with the stereotype does this apply to you? ::DEAD:: |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:13:35 GMT -5
No I didnt say that South.
Juicy stated that SHE does not agree with what I've said about the General Consensus of Zetas in the South. It has NOTHING to do with whether AKA's or shallow or not. I just wanted to know if the Percentage of Attractive Zetas is equal to that of AKA's in the SOUTH. Dont try to add things to my comments sweetheart.
Example, Out of 100 Zetas, how many would you say are attractive?
Out of 100 AKA's how many would you say are attractive Nupe, I don't agree with your general consenus of what you are saying about greeks period. Alpha Kappa Alpha doesn't state anywhere that we won't take someone if they aren't physically attractive. That isn't one of our requirements. Pretty girls is just a stereotype. And for the record, being a pretty girl is an attitude.
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:15:56 GMT -5
Wow. To even insuiate that someone wouldn't have Zeta as number 1 in their heart and settled for Zeta or whatever else is ridiculous. Period. To make that assumption says alot.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:17:02 GMT -5
Lol..and in no way does that bother me. Why? Because this is a MB. Pictures are Pictures. Some may think I'm attractive, others may not. Such is life. But it doesnt change the fact that MOST think I'm attractive from what I'VE witnessed and heard in PM's. But thats not relevant at all.
I'm assuming thats your way of taking a cheap shot. Cool!That is not my way of taking a cheap shot. If I want to take a shot, I will. I'm just keeping it real. You are running so hard on these stereotypes, and I'm saying that others have said on OO that you yourself aren't attractive. So based off what others think, you shouldn't be a Kappa. See how retarded that is? And what if you went to an interest meeting and the Kappas were like you ugly as hell, next! Obviously they didn't do that. All I'm saying to you is, if you really believe these stereotypes and hold them to be true, you got a lot more growing to do.
YOU HAVE YET TO ANSWER THE QUESTION...So you come at me about my looks....
Hmmm...Ok....!!!
We're not talking about me! Everybody has their opinions sweetheart, thats the reason for this thread in the FIRST PLACE. I didnt create this thread, I just responded based on what I'VE OBSERVED.... |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:18:17 GMT -5
Wow. To even insuiate that someone wouldn't have Zeta as number 1 in their heart and settled for Zeta or whatever else is ridiculous. Period. To make that assumption says alot.
Thats redicoulous! We ALL know that there are people from EVERY ORG that were denied membership in ANOTHER org, INCLUDING Kappa and AKA. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:21:40 GMT -5
LMAO @ you getting hot under the collar! You are taking shots at other orgs. looks, but when the shots are turned around on you, there is an issue. Very interesting indeed.
What Cold and Frozen said are nowhere near what you said. Frozen said he has seen Zetas in the south look more homely. I can agree with him there. What Cold said, I mean it is what it is, if that is how he feels. You took it a step further talking about how women who might want to be AKAs but were afraid they weren't going to get picked because of looks so they settled for Zeta.
Cold nor Frozen said that. You did. And if you can't be used as an example for a view point that you are advocating so hard, then maybe you aren't really all for your view point at all.
And for the record: I BELIEVE ALL ORGS. HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTRACTIVE AND UGLY PEOPLE, PERIOD! YOUR THREE LETTERS AND TWO COLORS HAS NO BEARING ON LOOKS.
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:23:00 GMT -5
Wow. To even insuiate that someone wouldn't have Zeta as number 1 in their heart and settled for Zeta or whatever else is ridiculous. Period. To make that assumption says alot.
Thats redicoulous! We ALL know that there are people from EVERY ORG that were denied membership in ANOTHER org, INCLUDING Kappa and AKA.No, I'm not saying that. But you are saying that ALL Zetas wanted to be something else instead of Zeta but did Zeta because they are ugly. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:26:09 GMT -5
LMAO @ you getting hot under the collar! You are taking shots at other orgs. looks, but when the shots are turned around on you, there is an issue. Very interesting indeed. What Cold and Frozen said are nowhere near what you said. Frozen said he has seen Zetas in the south look more homely. I can agree with him there. What Cold said, I mean it is what it is, if that is how he feels. You took it a step further talking about how women who might want to be AKAs but were afraid they weren't going to get picked because of looks so they settled for Zeta.Cold nor Frozen said that. You did. And if you can't be used as an example for a view point that you are advocating so hard, then maybe you aren't really all for your view point at all. And for the record: I BELIEVE ALL ORGS. HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTRACTIVE AND UGLY PEOPLE, PERIOD! YOUR THREE LETTERS AND TWO COLORS HAS NO BEARING ON LOOKS.
Didn't you yourself say that SOME Kappas are unattractive but THINK they are now that they have KAY on their chest? They are molding to the stererotype. If your ugly, then your ugly. I believe we can BOTH agree on that. |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 12, 2008 10:28:33 GMT -5
LMAO @ you getting hot under the collar! You are taking shots at other orgs. looks, but when the shots are turned around on you, there is an issue. Very interesting indeed. What Cold and Frozen said are nowhere near what you said. Frozen said he has seen Zetas in the south look more homely. I can agree with him there. What Cold said, I mean it is what it is, if that is how he feels. You took it a step further talking about how women who might want to be AKAs but were afraid they weren't going to get picked because of looks so they settled for Zeta. Cold nor Frozen said that. You did. And if you can't be used as an example for a view point that you are advocating so hard, then maybe you aren't really all for your view point at all. And for the record: I BELIEVE ALL ORGS. HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTRACTIVE AND UGLY PEOPLE, PERIOD! YOUR THREE LETTERS AND TWO COLORS HAS NO BEARING ON LOOKS. Get him, Juicy!!! A woman is at her "foxiest" (an 80's term) when she gets angry!!!  |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:30:50 GMT -5
I don't agree on how you are dumping on Zeta. All stereotype for all orgs. have been listed by you, according to you and whoever, and yet it is Zeta that you keep stating have members that probably wanted to be AKAs but because of stereotype, choose to go with an org. they are more inclined with. I mean, you just said their stereotype is being ugly.
Come on now.
But, I'm tired of hitting a brick wall. Live by your stereotypes all you want. But all I'm saying to you is, just how you are running these stereotypes so hard on others, it is also being ran on your org. and on you and how you don't fit.
Something to think about.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:32:10 GMT -5
So your saying that ALL zetas who ARE zetas wanted to be zetas from the start?
Thats redicoulous! We ALL know that there are people from EVERY ORG that were denied membership in ANOTHER org, INCLUDING Kappa and AKA. No, I'm not saying that. But you are saying that ALL Zetas wanted to be something else instead of Zeta but did Zeta because they are ugly. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:33:14 GMT -5
I don't agree on how you are dumping on Zeta. All stereotype for all orgs. have been listed by you, according to you and whoever, and yet it is Zeta that you keep stating have members that probably wanted to be AKAs but because of stereotype, choose to go with an org. they are more inclined with. I mean, you just said their stereotype is being ugly. Come on now. But, I'm tired of hitting a brick wall. Live by your stereotypes all you want. But all I'm saying to you is, just how you are running these stereotypes so hard on others, it is also being ran on your org. and on you and how you don't fit. Something to think about.
Well, when you exist in real life to me, then I'll take those comments to heart. I dont know you from the other side of my Keyboard sweetheart. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:33:45 GMT -5
LMAO @ you getting hot under the collar! You are taking shots at other orgs. looks, but when the shots are turned around on you, there is an issue. Very interesting indeed. What Cold and Frozen said are nowhere near what you said. Frozen said he has seen Zetas in the south look more homely. I can agree with him there. What Cold said, I mean it is what it is, if that is how he feels. You took it a step further talking about how women who might want to be AKAs but were afraid they weren't going to get picked because of looks so they settled for Zeta. Cold nor Frozen said that. You did. And if you can't be used as an example for a view point that you are advocating so hard, then maybe you aren't really all for your view point at all. And for the record: I BELIEVE ALL ORGS. HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ATTRACTIVE AND UGLY PEOPLE, PERIOD! YOUR THREE LETTERS AND TWO COLORS HAS NO BEARING ON LOOKS. Get him, Juicy!!! A woman is at her "foxiest" (an 80's term) when she gets angry!!! LMAO! Not angry by far. Just offering my view point. |
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Post by happy1 on Mar 12, 2008 10:35:07 GMT -5
I have to admit I know a woman whose daughter just finished a cotillion sponsored by AKA, and truly wants to be more involved with the sisters she met. The problem is, she does not feel she fits the stereotype (she is working on her PHd). Sad. I feel if she does not have the self-confidence to KNOW she is "pretty", then how can she expect the sisters to see it in her?
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:35:20 GMT -5
No, I'm not saying that. But you are saying that ALL Zetas wanted to be something else instead of Zeta but did Zeta because they are ugly. Ok, my bad, let me re-correct and say just all Zetas in the south wanted to be either AKAs or Deltas but because they are ugly they settelted for Zeta, according to you.  |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:36:29 GMT -5
Where did I say that ALL zetas wanted to be AKA's? I said Some of them MIGHT HAVE wanted to be... Ok, my bad, let me re-correct and say just all Zetas in the south wanted to be either AKAs or Deltas but because they are ugly they settelted for Zeta, according to you. Can't you read? Please go back and read my QUOTE AGAIN! I said "some" of them probably wanted to...Not all, not all in the south, SOME OF THEM.... |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:36:45 GMT -5
I don't agree on how you are dumping on Zeta. All stereotype for all orgs. have been listed by you, according to you and whoever, and yet it is Zeta that you keep stating have members that probably wanted to be AKAs but because of stereotype, choose to go with an org. they are more inclined with. I mean, you just said their stereotype is being ugly. Come on now. But, I'm tired of hitting a brick wall. Live by your stereotypes all you want. But all I'm saying to you is, just how you are running these stereotypes so hard on others, it is also being ran on your org. and on you and how you don't fit. Something to think about.
Well, when you exist in real life to me, then I'll take those comments to heart. I dont know you from the other side of my Keyboard sweetheart.So now I don't exist IRL, OMG, buahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You right, you don't know me from the other side of the keyboard, nor me you. It shall stay this way too. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:37:28 GMT -5
I have to admit I know a woman whose daughter just finished a cotillion sponsored by AKA, and truly wants to be more involved with the sisters she met. The problem is, she does not feel she fits the stereotype (she is working on her PHd). Sad. I feel if she does not have the self-confidence to KNOW she is "pretty", then how can she expect the sisters to see it in her? |
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Post by Southie on Mar 12, 2008 10:38:52 GMT -5
I have to admit I know a woman whose daughter just finished a cotillion sponsored by AKA, and truly wants to be more involved with the sisters she met. The problem is, she does not feel she fits the stereotype (she is working on her PHd). Sad. I feel if she does not have the self-confidence to KNOW she is "pretty", then how can she expect the sisters to see it in her? Is this another Southern thing? If so, then the South needs to catch up with the North. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:38:54 GMT -5
I have to admit I know a woman whose daughter just finished a cotillion sponsored by AKA, and truly wants to be more involved with the sisters she met. The problem is, she does not feel she fits the stereotype (she is working on her PHd). Sad. I feel if she does not have the self-confidence to KNOW she is "pretty", then how can she expect the sisters to see it in her? And with this, that is HER hang up. And it isn't about seeing if my sorors think she is pretty cause like I stated before, looks is NOT a requirement. It's if she meets the other requirements and ideals of AKA that we hold dear. If she doesn't know nor understand that, she doesn't need to be an AKA or any org., IMO. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:42:19 GMT -5
I have to admit I know a woman whose daughter just finished a cotillion sponsored by AKA, and truly wants to be more involved with the sisters she met. The problem is, she does not feel she fits the stereotype (she is working on her PHd). Sad. I feel if she does not have the self-confidence to KNOW she is "pretty", then how can she expect the sisters to see it in her? And with this, that is HER hang up. And it isn't about seeing if my sorors think she is pretty cause like I stated before, looks is NOT a requirement. It's if she meets the other requirements and ideals of AKA that we hold dear. If she doesn't know nor understand that, she doesn't need to be an AKA or any org., IMO. I agree 100% |
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Post by happy1 on Mar 12, 2008 10:44:18 GMT -5
@juicy - I am agreeing with your earlier observation of "pretty" being a state of mind. How can you teach young women to have self esteem if you do not have it yourself?
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Post by Robelite on Mar 12, 2008 10:46:02 GMT -5
Thats my point Happy. Some girls FEEL that they dont fit the stereotype, so they do SOMETHING else...how is this so unprobable? Is this another Southern thing? If so, then the South needs to catch up with the North. Southie, Please don't think that we folks down south are that narrow-minded based on anything posted here. The ladies of Zeta Phi Beta that I know (and I know a plenty) are PROUD of their affiliation with Zeta as they should be, and they don't give a damn what any of the rest of us think, or how we view them based on any stereotype...and they shouldn't!! One of my good friends from ug is running for National Phylacter (I think) of your sorority, and trust me...she's got enough confidence for a whole chapter all by herself! |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:48:02 GMT -5
Is this another Southern thing? If so, then the South needs to catch up with the North. Southie, Please don't think that we folks down south are that narrow-minded based on anything posted here. The ladies of Zeta Phi Beta that I know (and I know a plenty) are PROUD of their affiliation with Zeta as they should be, and they don't give a damn what any of the rest of us think, or how we view them based on any stereotype...and they shouldn't!! One of my good friends from ug is running for National Phylacter (I think) of your sorority, and trust me...she's got enough confidence for a whole chapter all by herself!
Robbie, how can you say that? Are you saying that there AREN'T any ladies that wanted to be AKA but based on stereotypes, they choose SOMETHING else? Is that what you are saying? |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 12, 2008 10:53:09 GMT -5
Why are you just on AKA and Zeta?
Why can't you say couldn't there be other girls who wanted to be Deltas, Zeta, SGRhos and because they didn't think they fit into the stereotype, they chose something else?
I mean really.
Oh and Southie, like Rob said, all us down home southern folks don't like this. We as a region have supposed to been liberated, but some of my fellow southerns' "MINDS" aren't.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 12, 2008 10:54:22 GMT -5
Why are you just on AKA and Zeta? Why can't you say couldn't there be other girls who wanted to be Deltas, Zeta, SGRhos and because they didn't think they fit into the stereotype, they chose something else? I mean really. Oh and Southie, like Rob said, all us down home southern folks don't like this. We as a region have supposed to been liberated, but some of my fellow southerns' "MINDS" aren't. |
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