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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 14, 2008 12:41:44 GMT -5
Discuss?  I'm Trying to get my post count up...It took me a year to get to 5k |
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Post by Southie on Jan 14, 2008 15:42:59 GMT -5
Sweet Men??? Is this like, MIAKA vs. Alpha Sweethearts? |
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 14, 2008 15:59:02 GMT -5
I Dunno? I Just Want My Post Count Up....
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Post by sigmamason on Jan 14, 2008 18:36:24 GMT -5
I can't say what is on my mind as it will polarize the board...
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Post by BrnSuga on Jan 14, 2008 18:43:12 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with Sweetheart groups. They are just their to support the men/women in the organizations. On the other hand, in my opinion MiAKA and other groups like it are disrespectful to the orgs they are claiming to represent.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 15, 2008 11:16:28 GMT -5
we used to have Green Berets at my UG before I got there. It was funny to find out the guys that did it, lol.
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Post by Versatile on Jan 15, 2008 11:21:26 GMT -5
Dang, I thought this was about Sweetheart candies. *Sigh*
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Post by Cambist on Jan 15, 2008 12:40:45 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with Sweethearts as long as they have a specific purpose. I really don't think that purpose should be ongoing though.
To have Alpha Angles help out when brothers were pledging was a good thing. They assisted the men and were there for them when they could count on no-one else. Psychologically, I believe that to be a very strong message. Pledges CHOSE their Angels and were dependent on them sometimes as much as they were their LB's.
Today, auxillary groups are nothing more than liabilities. They are organizations with their own purpose including but not limited to helping the fraternity. I don't think it's necessary and poses a threat to the organization to which they are attached.
Not to mention the perception of many aux groups these days.
Why is it that way? I'm glad you asked. It's that way because people don't pledge (traditionally) anymore. When pledging was above ground, the Angles were visible to all and therefor their existance was justified. Now, people just pop up one day and claim that they pledged 8 weeks underground and THEN make some sweethearts. WTF? Not to mention, it's more cool to say that you fvkked some young freshman sweetheart and that they're your sex slave than it is to say that you have sweethearts that you respect and hold in the highest regard. I mean...God forbid you be accused of being a gentleman which in todays terms is read as: "SAVING DEM HOES"
Thus ends my rant....any questions?
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jan 15, 2008 13:03:39 GMT -5
<-------------- really is striving to be like Cam when he goes up
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Post by Search1906 on Jan 15, 2008 13:35:42 GMT -5
Preach Brotha Cam
*goes back and sits in the Amen Corner*
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 15, 2008 21:06:57 GMT -5
So okay what about the Sweetheart organizations that are branching off on their own nationally? They don't rely on the help of their brother/sister organizations anymore although the name is still in existance.
Discuss
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Post by coldfront06 on Jan 15, 2008 21:08:49 GMT -5
Good point GE. I applaud the Alpha Angels...they are an incorporated organization that exists outside of Alpha Phi Alpha. Now we all know they have some type of relationship, but its not official. AAI actually has national and regional officers.
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 15, 2008 21:19:36 GMT -5
www.alphaangelsinc.org is their page. I know they have seemed to become an institution on their own also I believe the K-Sweets Are As Well. So Now They Are On Their Own So Are They Still sluts? They Are On Their On Now.
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Post by coldfront06 on Jan 15, 2008 21:22:15 GMT -5
Yeah they are still sluts, but at least they are independent sluts! LOL
<----J/K
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 15, 2008 21:23:55 GMT -5
LOL...  That Is Why Cold Thats Why |
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Post by IvyByDesign on Jan 15, 2008 23:14:10 GMT -5
 that was so wrong. LOL Yeah they are still sluts, but at least they are independent sluts! LOL <----J/K
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Post by mrknowitall on Jan 16, 2008 9:59:46 GMT -5
Oh wow...they have a website? Well I applaud them for their efforts...I guess?LOL
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 16, 2008 10:12:30 GMT -5
<---= Read Cam's rant
<---= still doesn't save 'em
<---= will throw them a life preserver and walk away
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Post by Southie on Jan 16, 2008 10:58:29 GMT -5
They really do not bother me. To each its own.
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 16, 2008 12:18:50 GMT -5
You Men why Can't Props Be Given Where Props Are Do?
Each Org Started From Somewhere And Its Up To The People In It To Take It Where It Needs To Go Or Leave It Behind...
*Walks Out Men Are Worst Than WOman*
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Post by Worthy Most Ancient Matron on Jan 16, 2008 18:56:23 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with Sweethearts as long as they have a specific purpose. I really don't think that purpose should be ongoing though. To have Alpha Angles help out when brothers were pledging was a good thing. They assisted the men and were there for them when they could count on no-one else. Psychologically, I believe that to be a very strong message. Pledges CHOSE their Angels and were dependent on them sometimes as much as they were their LB's. Today, auxillary groups are nothing more than liabilities. They are organizations with their own purpose including but not limited to helping the fraternity. I don't think it's necessary and poses a threat to the organization to which they are attached. Not to mention the perception of many aux groups these days. Why is it that way? I'm glad you asked. It's that way because people don't pledge (traditionally) anymore. When pledging was above ground, the Angles were visible to all and therefor their existance was justified. Now, people just pop up one day and claim that they pledged 8 weeks underground and THEN make some sweethearts. WTF? Not to mention, it's more cool to say that you fvkked some young freshman sweetheart and that they're your sex slave than it is to say that you have sweethearts that you respect and hold in the highest regard. I mean...God forbid you be accused of being a gentleman which in todays terms is read as: "SAVING DEM HOES" Thus ends my rant....any questions? I love you Cam!  |
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Post by AlphaMale on Jan 16, 2008 22:43:54 GMT -5
<-------------- really is striving to be like Cam when he goes up Me too! |
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Post by mrknowitall on Jan 17, 2008 9:16:56 GMT -5
<-------------- really is striving to be like Cam when he goes up Me too! Me Three!!! Cam is my role model! |
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Post by Robelite on Jan 17, 2008 11:10:22 GMT -5
Our sweethearts were great! They really were like a "sister" organization more than anything else. Some brothers did date them, but for the most part they were an auxiliary of the frat and the chapter. We went bowling, to movies, football and basketball games with the sweethearts, and they were held in the highest esteem.
What I used to really love was the way we'd sing to the sweethearts at the step shows, and present them with flowers and gifts..and let's not even talk about Miss Black and Gold! She would have an entourage of brothers like Queen Elizabeth, and when we traveled, she had a escort everywhere she went. It's nothing like meeting some of those Alpha Dreamgirls from back in the day. Their faces still light up when they talk about how the brothers treated them like a queen, and serenaded them at their dorms on campus.
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Post by Cambist on Jan 17, 2008 12:05:13 GMT -5
I have a problem seeing a chapter Ms. Black and Gold walking into a banquet or into an event unescorted.
Maybe i'm just a little old fashioned but to me, your Ms. Black and Gold should have a designated escort during all conventions.
Just me...
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Post by Robelite on Jan 17, 2008 12:36:22 GMT -5
I have a problem seeing a chapter Ms. Black and Gold walking into a banquet or into an event unescorted. Maybe i'm just a little old fashioned but to me, your Ms. Black and Gold should have a designated escort during all conventions. Just me... It's not just you Cam. Trust me. |
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Post by Cambist on Jan 17, 2008 12:54:20 GMT -5
Maybe that should be written into the protocol manual. Seriously.
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Post by happy1 on Jan 17, 2008 14:12:53 GMT -5
I recently saw on facebook where some Iota Sweethearts were having an informational. It is totally against our constitution for sweethearts to make other sweethearts. I guess thats what happens when a sweetheart org. starts acting like an org. For better or worse, my fraternity is slowly but surely becoming mainstream.
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Post by ace64hearts on Feb 8, 2008 15:08:55 GMT -5
Well as an Iota Sweetheart I dont think its wrong for having an informational about sweethearts. BUT what we do in MY chapter is when we have interest meetinsg, we have them AS A CHAPTER BUT it is important to inform young ladies of Iota Sweethearts. But its important that young ladies have time to talk strictly with the sweethearts and for interested young men to talk strictly with the brothers. Everything cannot and should not be mixed. Thats some of the struggles of having females inside a fraternity. But with maturity and wisdom of chapters, it can be done successfully, and has been done within my undergraduate chapter.
I dont think Iota is becoming mainstream. Iota having the only sweetheart auxilary affiliated nationally is far beyond the norm of other auxilary organizations. I just think that Iota is just realizing that it takes a LADY to make a lady. A brother of Iota cant show a potential sweetheart how to be a gracious lady. But with supervision I think its necessary for both parts both brothers and hearts to help make sweethearts. Just like it takes a mother and a father to raise a child, thats how i look at it.
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Post by FatalDST on Feb 8, 2008 15:17:36 GMT -5
I recently saw on facebook where some Iota Sweethearts were having an informational. It is totally against our constitution for sweethearts to make other sweethearts. I guess thats what happens when a sweetheart org. starts acting like an org. For better or worse, my fraternity is slowly but surely becoming mainstream. sweethearts should be banned! That was one thing I like about the Greeks up at Howard.. I asked if they had sweet, and one of the Sorors was like oh now, we dont have that mess here! lol |
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