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Post by Coldfront06 on Sept 11, 2009 9:27:19 GMT -5
According to the website, its been endorsed by each D9 organization. I don't think its a perfect format, but if I were eligible to participate I'd look at it like this: Its gonna happen, and the money is gonna be awarded to somebody. Might as well be me! This is not in the planning stage...this is going down. The choice is either participate or not.
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Post by FatalDST on Sept 11, 2009 9:48:55 GMT -5
ok, since this post has gone a little left, im just gonna watch.. its just a step show people... Damie getting his royal purple draws in a bunch! Damie.. they will learn from their mistakes... |
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Post by **Dea** on Sept 11, 2009 10:54:48 GMT -5
VP "the M'Fers are steppin for soda! You can't pay me to step for no damn soda!"
hehehe! Hilarity!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 11, 2009 11:00:18 GMT -5
According to the website, its been endorsed by each D9 organization. I don't think its a perfect format, but if I were eligible to participate I'd look at it like this: Its gonna happen, and the money is gonna be awarded to somebody. Might as well be me! This is not in the planning stage...this is going down. The choice is either participate or not. |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Sept 11, 2009 11:16:31 GMT -5
OOOOHHHHHH
Great Catch DamieQue!! Surely they should have been allowed to use the letters w/o any infringement if the D9 orgs endorsed the competition.
Interesting...This is getting worse the more you scholars dissect it.
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Post by Coldfront06 on Sept 11, 2009 11:23:26 GMT -5
I found this article about it on Yahoo: finance.yahoo.com/news/Sprite-North-America-Presents-prnews-2427470101.html?x=0&.v=2WASHINGTON, Aug. 20 /PRNewswire/ -- Nearly 400 members of the Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated stood to their feet as Maurice Cooper, Sprite's North America business manager for The Coca-Cola Company, presented the organization with a check for $83,333.33. The presentation was made during the closing session of the 2009 Zeta Organizational Leadership Conference held in Washington, DC at the J.W. Marriott Hotel. PR Newswire - Sprite presents Zeta Phi Beta Step Off Partnership Check ... PR Newswire - Sprite presents Zeta Phi Beta Step Off Partnership Check ... (Photo: www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20090820/DA64351)The check, presented to International President and entertainer/entrepreneur Sheryl P. Underwood, officially marks the leadership role of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority as one of the partnering organizations of the National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC) supporting the 2009 Sprite Step Off, a national step competition, with $1.5 million in prizes. According to Underwood, "Zeta Phi Beta is overjoyed to join the other eight (8) Greek organizations, in partnership with Sprite. Sprite started its countdown to the Fall Step Off, and so have we!" said Underwood. She adds, "Zeta Phi Beta and the Council of Presidents of the NPHC see this as an opportunity for our youth to have fun and get exercise, but we also see the life-shaping experience in the Service and Charitable Platform." In addition to being an historic competition, the Sprite Step Off will focus on scholarship, education and community service. "All teams serve at Boys & Girls Clubs throughout the country. The higher education service initiative will be connected to USAservice.org, President Barack Obama's service platform," according to Cooper. He adds, "The Sprite Step Off is a breakthrough program positively highlighting multicultural Greek life." The teams get to step off on stage in over 20 cities across the country and get to step into the communities and reach other young people. "A true example of each one, reaching one," said Underwood. Sprite Step Off qualifying rounds begin in September followed by regional semi-finals and regional finals in October and November. The national finals will be held in January 2010 in Atlanta. The events will also feature a variety of national and local recording artists, renowned marching bands, and celebrity DJs. For more information on Sprite Step Off, visit spritestepoff.com. To learn more about Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Incorporated visit www.Zphib1920.org. |
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Post by Warner Fite on Sept 11, 2009 12:20:54 GMT -5
According to the website, its been endorsed by each D9 organization. I don't think its a perfect format, but if I were eligible to participate I'd look at it like this: Its gonna happen, and the money is gonna be awarded to somebody. Might as well be me! This is not in the planning stage...this is going down. The choice is either participate or not. I agree with VP, this is coon'ish...plantation'ish....nigger'ish...sell-out'ish Sell our century-old culture to a billion-dollar corporation to help them sell a billion-more dollars of Sprite and other soft drinks.... For $83,333.....? Am I the only seeing this sideways?.... |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 11, 2009 12:42:16 GMT -5
I saw that on their website...and yet no one wore any letters whatsoever. Strange. I'd like to know the nature of this endorsement. I agree with VP, this is coon'ish...plantation'ish....nigger'ish...sell-out'ish Sell our century-old culture to a billion-dollar corporation to help them sell a billion-more dollars of Sprite and other soft drinks.... For $83,333.....? Am I the only seeing this sideways?....
...the only thing that you didn't mention is not only do we sell out for THEIR profit - we do it on THEIR terms and by THEIR rules. And oh by the way, for the finals - you text message your vote. So we'll have millions of completely clueless judges voting for who the winner should be.
Again - not knocking the performers that choose to participate... I hope the kids have fun - I just don't like the arrangement at ALL.
Big PUN brings up another good point - the math doesn't work right. My CT (Conspiracy Theory) money went under the table somewhere on this one. |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 11, 2009 15:50:08 GMT -5
Nice color coding D...lol
Ok Bruh, you are going real Oliver Stone right now. All I'm saying is that Sprite is trying to create a family friendly, televisable event. You should be able to put together a winning show with decent outfits, no dissing of other orgs, so simulated sex (seriously, how many more times must I watch a frat licking whipped cream out of a pan on the floor or a chair or grinding on the floor). Seriously, you're mad they want you in short sleeves? SERIOUSLY? Guess I'm just not as outraged as you are. This isn't the first nationally televised competition. It isn't the firs one with corporate sponsorship. IIWII. It's not a perfect plan but I'm not distressed about it.
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Post by Cambist on Sept 14, 2009 10:03:20 GMT -5
Not sure I like the fact that someone other than a Pan-Hell organization might win. That would not only be embarrassing but it could change the game. It would be like Vanilla Ice's hook "Ice Ice Baby"...
....besides those of us who KNOW better....a better part of the world population now believe the Alphas stole that from him.
Let's say that Gamma Gamma Gamma, a Latino org, wins the contest. Or Delta Delta Delta wins the womens competition because the folks at home like to see the 25-20 doing stuff like that while they expect "US" to be good at "step dancing".
Especially with the racial sentiment in the country today.
On another level, I don't have a problem with the rules....not really. Tatoos? Yeah, that's a little much but brands I can get. The dancing....i'd rather not see it anyway...in ANY step show. But that's just me.
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Post by Oren Ishii on Sept 14, 2009 15:25:21 GMT -5
What type of tomfoolery is this?
For the life of me, I can't understand why we insist on continuing to sell our rich history and tradition to giant corporations who see us only as a profit making tool.
IMO, it's just another way for Sprite to appeal to the "Negro demographic" by using 'urban culture' in their marketing campaigns. Don't get me wrong...I'm a capitalist and I believe in seizing opportunities, but I really feel that BGLOs need to chill on the licensing and joint ventures. We are private organizations first, corporations second.
When our Founders/trailblazers were organizing for perpetuity, I really don't think Converse & Sprite (just examples) were part of the plan.
Black Greeks need to take back the pride of membership in our organizations, and stop trying to gain commercial appeal with the masses. When did that become part of our mission? There are so many more effective ways to maintain/increase social relevance.
JMHO
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Post by **Dea** on Sept 14, 2009 16:11:03 GMT -5
HEEEEEEEEY!!!! IT'S TPK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLA CHICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post by Oren Ishii on Sept 14, 2009 16:37:33 GMT -5
HEEEEEEEEY!!!! IT'S TPK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOLA CHICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Uhhh, hey Madea! LOL What up, man? I'm mad you just called me all out like that. SMH |
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Post by **Dea** on Sept 14, 2009 16:46:55 GMT -5
LMAO!!! This is what I do around these parts...as usual....i call crap out. (plus it's obvious if you know how to see who is who)
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 14, 2009 17:09:23 GMT -5
We are doing enough on our own to compromise our "rich traditions". Commercialization isn't the core problem.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 14, 2009 17:15:14 GMT -5
We are doing enough on our own to compromise our "rich traditions". Commercialization isn't the core problem. |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 14, 2009 17:20:23 GMT -5
We are doing enough on our own to compromise our "rich traditions". Commercialization isn't the core problem. I e-HATE YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH RIGHT NOW  All I'm saying is that isn't the start of the slide. Teams have been stepping in commercially sponsored competitions for years. This plan has some issues but I'm honestly not seeing how it's the Apocalypse. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 14, 2009 17:25:43 GMT -5
Neither is it the solution. You wait till Delta starts Stepping for Kraft Cheese and Macaroni. Just wait. Matter of fact, I'm gonna be the one to direct it too. I e-HATE YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH RIGHT NOW All I'm saying is that isn't the start of the slide. Teams have been stepping in commercially sponsored competitions for years. This plan has some issues but I'm honestly not seeing how it's the Apocalypse.
Peep the CT:
Delta Airlines just started having folks wear new uniforms (dresses) you remember the controversy... but you didn't put it all together.
...Delta and Red dresses...
...come on Negus you know what's next. They gone have Deltas Stomping the Aisle on Delta. Founders Step at 10,000 feet. Say it can't happen...
I dare you. |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 14, 2009 17:30:55 GMT -5
I e-HATE YOU SOOOOOOOO MUCH RIGHT NOW All I'm saying is that isn't the start of the slide. Teams have been stepping in commercially sponsored competitions for years. This plan has some issues but I'm honestly not seeing how it's the Apocalypse.
Peep the CT:
Delta Airlines just started having folks wear new uniforms (dresses) you remember the controversy... but you didn't put it all together.
...Delta and Red dresses...
...come on Negus you know what's next. They gone have Deltas Stomping the Aisle on Delta. Founders Step at 10,000 feet. Say it can't happen...
I dare you. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 14, 2009 17:36:40 GMT -5
I'm telling you... y'all gonna be performing for Corporate Parties, Bar Mitzvah's, weddings and birthday parties. And don't let KFC get ahold of you. Have y'all in there stepping on the counters, flipping chicken and pouring drinks and what not.
All because you wouldn't listen to me today
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Post by Oren Ishii on Sept 14, 2009 17:40:16 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that isn't the start of the slide. Teams have been stepping in commercially sponsored competitions for years. This plan has some issues but I'm honestly not seeing how it's the Apocalypse.[/quote] That's because you got your back to the 4 horsemen... you're looking over here but they're behind you.
Peep the CT:
Delta Airlines just started having folks wear new uniforms (dresses) you remember the controversy... but you didn't put it all together.
...Delta and Red dresses...
...come on Negus you know what's next. They gone have Deltas Stomping the Aisle on Delta. Founders Step at 10,000 feet. Say it can't happen...
I dare you. [/quote] LMAO @ Damie, and I agree with you DSTurbia91 - this type of competition didn't start the sh__, but IMO opinion, it's fuel to a rapidly growing fire. |
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Post by Julie Art on Sept 14, 2009 18:57:56 GMT -5
I'm done with Damie! Qqelcome back soror TPK!
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Post by Oren Ishii on Sept 14, 2009 19:16:55 GMT -5
Hi Soror!
I see you've morphed completely into your "Juicy mode" all day ever'day. Good to see you :-)
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Post by Julie Art on Sept 14, 2009 21:58:50 GMT -5
Lol! Yeah I did! Good to see you too!
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 15, 2009 8:39:39 GMT -5
The sad reality is that we over time are killing our organizations because we have not protected them. We can be upset that all these non-D9 orgs are copying our swag and traditions and such but in a lot of cases, D9 members have helped them do it. we haven't made proper provisions for protecting our brand upon death and our sacred documents/property are traded on the internet daily. A lot of members don't know protocol and therefore disrespect the orgs in their words and actions. And finally, the world capitalistic view has affected our business decisions. Y'all will not convince me that Delta is the only D9 that has seeks corporate support for conferences and conventions. C.R.E.A.M. and I am not the only one.
I'm curious if y'all have as much of a problem with the State Farm Battle of the Bands (Bayou Classic).
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 15, 2009 10:26:47 GMT -5
The sad reality is that we over time are killing our organizations because we have not protected them. We can be upset that all these non-D9 orgs are copying our swag and traditions and such but in a lot of cases, D9 members have helped them do it. we haven't made proper provisions for protecting our brand upon death and our sacred documents/property are traded on the internet daily. A lot of members don't know protocol and therefore disrespect the orgs in their words and actions. And finally, the world capitalistic view has affected our business decisions. Y'all will not convince me that Delta is the only D9 that has seeks corporate support for conferences and conventions. C.R.E.A.M. and I am not the only one. I'm curious if y'all have as much of a problem with the State Farm Battle of the Bands (Bayou Classic).
To reiterate, I don't have a problem with seeking corporate sponsors - because it at least implies that YOU are still in control of the event. I would love to see a Pan-Hel Step Show that was paid for by sponsors. Why? Because it would defray costs, and what they would get for their money is NOT the right to tell us how to do OUR thing, but the right to advertise their product. If they don't like tatoos or brands Let 'em kick rocks - that's a part of the culture. Take it or leave it. Sprite is (at best) a sponsor - not an owner or presiding authority over BGLO culture |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 15, 2009 10:36:02 GMT -5
The sad reality is that we over time are killing our organizations because we have not protected them. We can be upset that all these non-D9 orgs are copying our swag and traditions and such but in a lot of cases, D9 members have helped them do it. we haven't made proper provisions for protecting our brand upon death and our sacred documents/property are traded on the internet daily. A lot of members don't know protocol and therefore disrespect the orgs in their words and actions. And finally, the world capitalistic view has affected our business decisions. Y'all will not convince me that Delta is the only D9 that has seeks corporate support for conferences and conventions. C.R.E.A.M. and I am not the only one. I'm curious if y'all have as much of a problem with the State Farm Battle of the Bands (Bayou Classic).
To reiterate, I don't have a problem with seeking corporate sponsors - because it at least implies that YOU are still in control of the event. I would love to see a Pan-Hel Step Show that was paid for by sponsors. Why? Because it would defray costs, and what they would get for their money is NOT the right to tell us how to do OUR thing, but the right to advertise their product. If they don't like tatoos or brands Let 'em kick rocks - that's a part of the culture. Take it or leave it. Sprite is (at best) a sponsor - not an owner or presiding authority over BGLO culture D, I was talking about the commercially sponsored step show at the Battle of the Bands and trying to understand how the examples differ. We should be upset with our respective leadership, not Sprite, if this somehow compromises what we perceive that we stand for. They signed off on these rules and probablt drafted some of them. That brand thing really got under your skin, huh?  |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 15, 2009 10:57:26 GMT -5
I didn't go to either school and was not a part of the band... I wouldn't have much of a basis to have a problem. I am however, perpetually a man of Omega. Therein lies the difference between the band example and the Sprite Step Off.
To reiterate, I don't have a problem with seeking corporate sponsors - because it at least implies that YOU are still in control of the event. I would love to see a Pan-Hel Step Show that was paid for by sponsors. Why? Because it would defray costs, and what they would get for their money is NOT the right to tell us how to do OUR thing, but the right to advertise their product. If they don't like tatoos or brands Let 'em kick rocks - that's a part of the culture. Take it or leave it. Sprite is (at best) a sponsor - not an owner or presiding authority over BGLO culture D, I was talking about the commerciall sponsored step show at the Battle of the Bands and trying to understand how the examples differ. We should be upset with our respective leadership, not Sprite, if this somehow compromises what we perceive that we stand for. They signed off on these rules and probablt drafted some of them. That brand thing really got under your skin, huh?
The Sprite Step off appears to be the exact opposite.
And before you inch those "goal posts" any further to the left, the original question that was being considered was - is the competition a good idea, not who we should be upset with if it turned out it wasn't a good idea. Personally I'll blame YOU for it all... |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 15, 2009 11:06:19 GMT -5
D, I was talking about the commerciall sponsored step show at the Battle of the Bands and trying to understand how the examples differ. We should be upset with our respective leadership, not Sprite, if this somehow compromises what we perceive that we stand for. They signed off on these rules and probablt drafted some of them. That brand thing really got under your skin, huh?
The Sprite Step off appears to be the exact opposite.
And before you inch those "goal posts" any further to the left, the original question that was being considered was - is the competition a good idea, not who we should be upset with if it turned out it wasn't a good idea. Personally I'll blame YOU for it all... Dude, this has NOTHING to do with the bands! It's about the step show. How do you know who set the rules for either event? How do you know PanHel didn't get together and draft the rules for Sprite and they did for State Farm? Since you feel hell bent on being the victim and it IS your area of expertise, roll with that. Cam would never *places call to Chal to have "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I think I'll go eat worms" BeChazzled on a purple wifebeater for Damie* |
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Post by Coldfront06 on Sept 15, 2009 11:09:45 GMT -5
I've been trying to research to see who exactly created this idea, who was responsible for the rules, etc.
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