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Post by Julie Art on Oct 8, 2009 9:16:48 GMT -5
Ok, I just did a search on meaning of the word "Muslim" and this is what I found according to Microsoft Word 2007 resources:
"relating to the followers of Islam or to areas, cultures, or activities in which followers of Islam are especially numerous"
So a person who was born and raised in, lets say Saudia Arabia, but is a Chrisitan would be a Muslim Chrisitan.
So based off that definition, we are both right Damie.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Oct 8, 2009 11:27:22 GMT -5
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muslimMain Entry: Mus·lim Pronunciation: \ˈməz-ləm, ˈmu̇s-, ˈmu̇z-\ Function: noun Etymology: Arabic muslim, literally, one who submits (to God) Date: circa 1615 1 : an adherent of Islam
2 : black muslim— Muslim adjective Respectfully - I have not yet seen a definition or source that says an individual (not an area, not a city, not an incorporated township - but an individual) can be considered muslim while simultaneously not an adherant to the Islamic faith.
An area can certainly be considered muslim (by population), Saudi Arabian culture might certainly be thought of as a muslim culture. Hajj would certainly be considered a muslim activity. But none of those are people.
Living in Saudia Arabia, partaking of the local culture, no more makes you muslim, than living in America and partaking of the culture automatcially makes you Christian - even if the culture and community around you is considered Christian.
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 8, 2009 12:43:01 GMT -5
As you and I have both demonstrated, there are various definitions to this word, so neither one of us are wrong, Damie. When looking at the word Muslim from an ethnic background, it is equivlant to Arab to me, just as most people automactically assume that Arab means the person is an adherent of Islam.
I don't think there is a right or wrong answer here, just a matter of preference.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Oct 8, 2009 13:56:14 GMT -5
On the opposite end of the spectrum I think there is a right and wrong answer, (not with definition of Muslim), but with the term "Muslim Christian".
That notwithstanding I readily acknowledge that right of everyone to hold whatever view they choose and so I gracefully agree to disagree and bow out of the thread.
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 8, 2009 14:35:14 GMT -5
LOL! Not when it gets good Damie, booooooooooooo (throws popcorn at Damie).
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Post by DamieQue™ on Oct 8, 2009 15:15:16 GMT -5
It's good to have a happy ending
*Eats popcorn*
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Post by nsync on Oct 10, 2009 8:24:38 GMT -5
I'm late with this but it touched home base for a reason:
There is a correct answer and it belongs to AKAD in this segment. There is such a person as a Christian Muslim, although it is rare and often times not spoken. I remember watching a special on Christian network about Christians in the Middle East. There were folks who considered themselves Muslim because they kept to cultural and religions aspects. However, they professed Jesus as savior.
This is not to be confused with Muslims in countries where they are forced to practice Islam, but in their private homes reject it because they profess Christianity.
Of course the Christian muslim in more controversial than the Christian Jew because Jesus was a Jew Muhummad was not. However one musn't forget that Christians believe Jesus is God. Muslims do not believe Muhummad is God.but the final profit. The relationship or importance is kind of similar too the whole Catholicism-Mary situation where folks think Catholics worship Mary because they pray to her and lift her up above other humans...type thing.
Christian Jews which are technically called( Messianic Jews or Jews for Jesus/Jews for Christ) are much more popular and spread about. We had a bunch who would worship at our church about once month when I was a child. I loved when they came in. Their services are more ceremonial and involved a lot of dances as a form of praise. Also they brought in the traditional instruments. I loved it!
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Post by Chal™ on Oct 16, 2009 10:42:29 GMT -5
Why do we as "Christians" bash what we do not understand?
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Post by LejaOMG on Oct 16, 2009 10:56:53 GMT -5
Because a great many "Christians" do not know enough about their own religion to intelligently discuss what difference in theology they may have with another group. Often, this lack of self-awareness creates self-doubt and manifests as "bashing"
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Post by Chal™ on Oct 16, 2009 11:31:47 GMT -5
^^ I love that answer. Exalt!!!
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Post by **Dea** on Oct 16, 2009 16:41:59 GMT -5
I definitely need to come in the religion section more often! There are som good discussions over here that are not messed up with bible beating...as it used to be. I have a new hang out! YAY ME
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Post by Dasani on Nov 16, 2009 13:42:06 GMT -5
Praise Him Every day
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Post by Chal™ on May 6, 2010 11:07:13 GMT -5
I'll give you peace when the storm is raging.
I'll be your light when the road ahead seems dim.
I have the power.
Just put your trust in Me.
Anything you need, have faith indeed.
Just ask, just ask in My name.
I am the Lord, I can move all mountains.
I'll be your strength when you're weary, weak, and worn.
Believe in My promise.
Cast all your cares upon Me.
Anything you need, have faith indeed.
Just ask, just ask in MY name.
In My name all things are possible.
I'm able to do the impossible.
I'n My name all can come boldly before Me.
Yes, in My name.
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Post by ReignMan19 on May 6, 2010 11:29:24 GMT -5
I'll give you peace when the storm is raging. I'll be your light when the road ahead seems dim. I have the power. Just put your trust inMe. Anything you need, have faith indeed. Just ask, just ask in My name. I am the Lord, I can move all mountains. I'll be your strength when you're weary, weak, and worn. Believe un My promise. Cast all you cares upon Me. Anything you ned, have faith indeed. Just ask, just ask in MY name. In My name all things are possible. I'm able to do the impossible. I'n My name all can come boldly before Me. Yes, in My name. #church #tabnacle #DoitLord |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 6, 2010 11:44:53 GMT -5
What is proper church attire?
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Post by peppermint on May 17, 2010 22:48:59 GMT -5
Jesus be some teeth to bite my tongue!
Why do folks think that because they church folks they can treat cha every whicha way?
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Post by Chal™ on May 18, 2010 0:20:06 GMT -5
hugs 4 pep
i understand, love. shake it off and keep it moving. they just don't seem to realize that going to church is not what makes you a christian
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Post by peppermint on May 18, 2010 8:10:49 GMT -5
Thanks Chal. I think sometimes people thing because I'm generally quiet and smile a lot that I'm a fool. I do have a stash of vinegar with all this honey though.
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Post by Chal™ on May 23, 2010 3:24:45 GMT -5
Tonight I saw the man who tried to kill my mom 8 years ago. And I froze. I was stuck in that one spot and all I could do was cry and pray.
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Post by peppermint on May 23, 2010 10:21:28 GMT -5
e-hugs for Chal
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Post by Chal™ on May 23, 2010 13:23:51 GMT -5
thanks, Pep
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Post by Julie Art on May 24, 2010 23:40:24 GMT -5
Awwww dang Chal! God is awsome though!
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Post by Chal™ on May 25, 2010 2:18:38 GMT -5
indeed He is. Now if only I could get my mind to focus on that. Seeing him triggered my nightmares again. That's why I'm up at all hours of the night. have to wait until i'm so dead tired, i won't have room to dream.
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Post by frozenmenace on May 26, 2010 14:32:05 GMT -5
God has been so good to me, I just can't tell it all!!!
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Post by map2010 on May 28, 2010 21:35:42 GMT -5
When will Christians be just as upset about fornication as homosexuality
When will Christians be just as upset about adultery as abortion
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Post by peppermint on May 28, 2010 22:21:25 GMT -5
When will Christians be just as upset about fornication as homosexualityWhen will Christians be just as upset about adultery as abortion Get that said! I'm waiting for the day when we are just as disgusted about fornication, adultery and DIVORCE as we are other sins. |
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Post by Chal™ on May 28, 2010 23:29:02 GMT -5
Lord, I am tired
and I am weak
but I know you're with me.
Sometimes I'm down
cant carry on
but I keep holding on
because i know You're strong in me
And I know that you are not through with me yet
and if I do your will I know your blessing I'll get
I am Your child.
You are my light
For You I live
And give my all to You
I give all praise to you
Oh Lord, I want to be in that number
when You come again, oh Lord
Oh Lord I want to be one of the chosen few
that will hear You say "Well done."
"Well done. Well done."
I wanna hear you say to me
"Well done. Well done."
"Oh, My house is your home, and I say to you well done."
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Post by Chal™ on May 28, 2010 23:40:47 GMT -5
I looked in the mirror and what did I see
I saw the same young lady with a different personality
Trying to make a new start, it's time to look ahead
With God on my side I'll do just what He said
If I follow Him and obey the Master's Will
He promised in His Word a blessing He will give
Now that I know I've finally realize
That a change is coming my way.
Gotta look ahead and leave the past behind
I know in His arms comfort I will find
I know I've made mistakes that aren't easy to erase
but by His saving Grace I know I'll find my way
If I follow Him and obey the Master's Will
He promised in His Word a blessing He will give
Now that I know I've finally realize
That a change is coming my way.
On Christ the Solid Rock I stand
only the ground will be sinking sand
You can't stop me, I've made my choice
I gotta get it together and get my just rewards
Now that I know I've finally realize
That a change is coming my way.
It's so good so sweet to know and finally realize
That a change is coming my way
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OOA neo
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Post by G Money$CMB$ on Jun 7, 2010 15:57:57 GMT -5
I know God is like "dang this girl just worries her little heart away on nonsense. Don't she know I got her?!?!!"
Sorry God- I'm learning not to take myself tooo seriously.
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Post by Chal™ on Jun 8, 2010 9:01:35 GMT -5
Pastor's son abused the daughter of one of the church members. Pastor has the nerve to get up and say, "As Christians, we look out for our own. We do not testify against our brothers and sisters. We stand behind them."
This is one of the reasons I'm leaving this particular church. Son or not, that boy was wrong, but do you know what he said? He said, " Why would I believe a couple of little kids over my son?" That child has the marks and bruises to prove it.
That boy needs to be behind bars. He seriously tortured that lil girl.
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