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Post by PHIRECHYLD on Apr 21, 2010 9:33:39 GMT -5
Ummm... I probably wouldn't bring over a guy who works very hard to mirror and damn near impersonate another celebrity. Especially someone in the "ignoramus" category like a Nicki Minaj -who's own character is in question anyway. Hell Nicki Minaj is another character created by the same woman who didn't want to be herself!
Anyway, let me internalize this some more.
Hmmm... If someone came to me wanting to be Phrat and has openly embraced and patterned himself after "Nick Cannon" would I accept him???
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HELL NAH!!
For one, you need to be a man before you become anything else. Second, be an individual man. Lastly, if you gonna pattern yourself after someone let it be someone of great credibility (i.e. Barack Obama, Colin Powell, Mos Def...). Where do they do that at?
That calls up serious character question in my eyes. I would honestly sit that person down and ask "Why would you choose to be a second class/rate version of someone else over first class/rate version of yourself?"
Where were her parents in all this? I just wouldn't let my child do that to him or herself.
*looks back at the picture*
Just shame.
And when did someone meeting the minimum requirements of GPA and service GUARANTEE you entrance into the walls of our HOUSE???
Getdatbitchassnessouttahere!
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Apr 21, 2010 9:45:51 GMT -5
Well stated, Phire.
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 9:49:52 GMT -5
Here is what I wasn't understanding Phire. I can understand her doing it at the show cause that is what that was for, but ummm, the days leading up to it, why you walking around like that? Was everyone else who participated doing that?
I wasn't understanding.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Apr 21, 2010 9:50:13 GMT -5
“All of the guidelines are different for each organization, but the basics are typically a 2.5 grade point average. That doesn’t mean everyone has to have a 2.5; it just means that overall it averages out to a 2.5, and then 12 credit hours,” Jackson said.Whose effin requirements is this Bama quoting?  ? UGH, you didn't make it. Get over it!!!!!!!!! They don't owe you an effing explanation. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 9:56:01 GMT -5
DONT WATCH THIS UNTIL AFTER YOU READ THE newsflash: If you have to keep pulling up your top to cover your boobs, ITS TOO SMALL/TIGHT! |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Apr 21, 2010 9:59:02 GMT -5
Note to you young people....youtube and facebook are not your friends
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 10:00:18 GMT -5
Here is what I wasn't understanding Phire. I can understand her doing it at the show cause that is what that was for, but ummm, the days leading up to it, why you walking around like that? Was everyone else who participated doing that? I wasn't understanding. I just want you to post back at the soror who is daring someone to comment! LOL |
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 10:03:32 GMT -5
Here is what I wasn't understanding Phire. I can understand her doing it at the show cause that is what that was for, but ummm, the days leading up to it, why you walking around like that? Was everyone else who participated doing that? I wasn't understanding. I just want you to post back at the soror who is daring someone to comment! LOL ROTFL! I would hit her up in private. Wouldn't bring a conversation like that outside of members, sorry  |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Apr 21, 2010 10:07:28 GMT -5
[psa] Note to you young people....youtube and facebook are not your friends And once you upload something, it is available to everyone. FOREVER. Yes you can set it to private, but guess what? Facebook/Youtube owns it and can provide it to anyone. [/psa] |
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Post by Iceman on Apr 21, 2010 10:33:33 GMT -5
Insanity.
Not trying to be funny at all, but is it just me, or does everyone here also only see this sort of stuff go down with females who get rejected? I haven’t really seen this sort of thing (complaining, writing letters to your school paper, etc) happen with dudes. Not saying it doesn’t though. Just weird man.
It seems pretty cut and dry that going about things this way will only get you blackballed from any future attempts to join the Org. Once the word is put out on you, that’s it – Forget about it.
If you get rejected, accept the L, and digest it. Then when you’re ready, humbly and politely ask a member(s) of the chapter your petitioning if they could provide the reason and advise you on what you could do to better your chances if the opportunity is given again. Depending on what they tell you, just work on what you can improve and come back when the time is right. No one has to justify denying you, but depending on your approach, you may be able to get some honest criticism or feedback. But all the extra stuff is just crazy…
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 21, 2010 10:43:03 GMT -5
I can't even lie, when they were first telling the story my exact thoughts were, "where do people get the notion that being in one of these orgs is some sort of right?" Lots of people are probably qualified to be Supreme Court judges, and most of them won't ever be. It's not a right. And merely meeting the bare requirements doesn't gurantee entry.
Then I kept reading...
And I'm shaking my head because I agree 100% with VP, you dissin' a reject? WTF for? So what if she had hair looking crazy (for whatever reason) - you rejected her long ago. I thought out of sight = out of mind... why diss her?
The only thing I could think of is maybe they felt like she was trying to get the line in trouble by asking the graduate adviser why she was rejected. But honestly that's a reach (and I'm even being diplomatic calling it a reach)
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 10:46:35 GMT -5
I just want you to post back at the soror who is daring someone to comment! LOL ROTFL! I would hit her up in private. Wouldn't bring a conversation like that outside of members, sorry  but she got her chest all stuck out and shit like she daring a micky ficky to say otherwise... |
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Post by PHIRECHYLD on Apr 21, 2010 10:50:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah I forgot, dissing a reject is NEVER a good thing. That makes an org look petty and lame. However that's becoming more and more common in greek culture. Pretty soon it's going to be just as common as seeing "Coming Out Shows" where numbers are missing. lol.
That always make me laugh for some reason.
1... 2... 5? 7??!! Wait, hold up... 13???!!
Where the rest of them at?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 21, 2010 10:51:34 GMT -5
Insanity. Not trying to be funny at all, but is it just me, or does everyone here also only see this sort of stuff go down with females who get rejected? I haven’t really seen this sort of thing (complaining, writing letters to your school paper, etc) happen with dudes. Not saying it doesn’t though. Just weird man. It seems pretty cut and dry that going about things this way will only get you blackballed from any future attempts to join the Org. Once the word is put out on you, that’s it – Forget about it. If you get rejected, accept the L, and digest it. Then when you’re ready, humbly and politely ask a member(s) of the chapter your petitioning if they could provide the reason and advise you on what you could do to better your chances if the opportunity is given again. Depending on what they tell you, just work on what you can improve and come back when the time is right. No one has to justify denying you, but depending on your approach, you may be able to get some honest criticism or feedback. But all the extra stuff is just crazy…
And also sometimes a "rejection" is better for the candidate than the chapter. Not much difference between the spelling of Oprah and Opal. It's not like a person HAS to be in an org to accomplish great things in life. |
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Post by Iceman on Apr 21, 2010 11:05:04 GMT -5
D. Dash..True, True. I guess I was lumping this scenario in with the other one from a few weeks ago - the "entitlement" one. Yeah, without all the details it's hard to say exactly who is holding on to the grudge. If that picture of her taking the jab at them is indeed after the fact, then I guess the war rages on. Wild.
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Post by LejaOMG on Apr 21, 2010 11:13:23 GMT -5
I think:
...they DID diss that girl and that press release is a farce
...members DID harass her outside the interest event (asking why she was there and telling her to leave; the ahkas on my yard were famous for that kinda ish)
...some overzealous members probably DID charge that car towards her in an effort to shake her up
...if I'm correct, then that girl was 100% right to file a complaint (about the harassment/bullying, not her rejectment [insider])
...the entire chapter is most likely under review at the moment and will get yanked soon
...a chapter who does this kinda irresponsible ish with people who aren't even members shouldn't be pledging anyway
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Post by kingdelta on Apr 21, 2010 11:25:59 GMT -5
I agree that this madness typically happens with females. And that's a sad testament.. However, I said this over on SH and I will say it here. I think it's fair that we give those rejected a reason. Are we required ot? No but I still think it's the right thing to do. So waht she was wearing pink and green? Is that a little disrespectful? Some might see it as such but does AKA own those colors? I think this whole story is sad all the way around.
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Post by Bathroom Model on Apr 21, 2010 11:26:20 GMT -5
I think: ...they DID diss that girl and that press release is a farce ...members DID harass her outside the interest event (asking why she was there and telling her to leave; the ahkas on my yard were famous for that kinda ish) ...some overzealous members probably DID charge that car towards her in an effort to shake her up ...if I'm correct, then that girl was 100% right to file a complaint (about the harassment/bullying, not her rejectment [insider]) ...the entire chapter is most likely under review at the moment and will get yanked soon ...a chapter who does this kinda irresponsible ish with people who aren't even members shouldn't be pledging anyway I believe all of this. |
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Post by kingdelta on Apr 21, 2010 11:29:44 GMT -5
I agree with Leja too. The press release stated the comment was only in reference to the rapper. Why would that even make it to a probate show? Is this rapper interested in AKA? Right!
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 11:31:10 GMT -5
ROTFL! I would hit her up in private. Wouldn't bring a conversation like that outside of members, sorry but she got her chest all stuck out and shit like she daring a micky ficky to say otherwise... LOL! Oh, I'm sure members are saying things to her in a more "private" manner, lol! |
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 11:39:15 GMT -5
I agree that this madness typically happens with females. And that's a sad testament.. However, I said this over on SH and I will say it here. I think it's fair that we give those rejected a reason. Are we required ot? No but I still think it's the right thing to do. So waht she was wearing pink and green? Is that a little disrespectful? Some might see it as such but does AKA own those colors? I think this whole story is sad all the way around. Underlined part, I do agree that this whole story is sad. The fact that it even made it into the campus newspaper is shocking to me. The whole deal with the pink and green thing, I believe it is an issue because she is doing it to taunt members. It was said that she wore those exact colors to a party wanting the members to say something to her, as in she trying to taung them www.cruberfab.blogspot.com/. I don't believe she is all innocent as the article is making her out to be, but then I think that article is a bunch of hot mess anway. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 21, 2010 11:40:09 GMT -5
I agree that this madness typically happens with females. And that's a sad testament.. However, I said this over on SH and I will say it here. I think it's fair that we give those rejected a reason. Are we required ot? No but I still think it's the right thing to do. So waht she was wearing pink and green? Is that a little disrespectful? Some might see it as such but does AKA own those colors? I think this whole story is sad all the way around.
Unless it was a problem with the actual application I wouldn't even go into detail, the most I would do is give a generic rejection and keep it moving (you are afforded no more in most job interviews)
Where you start climb Mt. Crazy (IMO) is when, having rejected a candidate, you "go in" on them at YOUR probate. Huh?
Having said that, it's unlikely that they only rejected one person, but the article seems to suggest they only went in on this one young lady. The question is why? Assuming there were others, why her and no one else? Or did they diss other rejected candidates. More info needed. |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 11:43:54 GMT -5
*storms out* UGH!!!
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Post by 123Diva on Apr 21, 2010 12:12:21 GMT -5
I think: ...they DID diss that girl and that press release is a farce ...members DID harass her outside the interest event (asking why she was there and telling her to leave; the ahkas on my yard were famous for that kinda ish) ...some overzealous members probably DID charge that car towards her in an effort to shake her up ...if I'm correct, then that girl was 100% right to file a complaint (about the harassment/bullying, not her rejectment [insider]) ...the entire chapter is most likely under review at the moment and will get yanked soon ...a chapter who does this kinda irresponsible ish with people who aren't even members shouldn't be pledging anyway ^^^Agreed Exalt. Just because an applicant/interest (a rejected one at that) isn't the most savory of individuals in your mind does not give you a right to harass and humiliate them. |
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 12:41:08 GMT -5
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Post by Bathroom Model on Apr 21, 2010 13:08:57 GMT -5
I think: ...they DID diss that girl and that press release is a farce ...members DID harass her outside the interest event (asking why she was there and telling her to leave; the ahkas on my yard were famous for that kinda ish) ...some overzealous members probably DID charge that car towards her in an effort to shake her up ...if I'm correct, then that girl was 100% right to file a complaint (about the harassment/bullying, not her rejectment [insider]) ...the entire chapter is most likely under review at the moment and will get yanked soon ...a chapter who does this kinda irresponsible ish with people who aren't even members shouldn't be pledging anyway ^^^Agreed Exalt. Just because an applicant/interest (a rejected one at that) isn't the most savory of individuals in your mind does not give you a right to harass and humiliate them. exactly...if she's a reject why are they givinmg her so much of their energy. Like didn't they have other rejects. did they shot them out too. i don't get it. and her performance was boring. BOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 13:12:13 GMT -5
^^^Agreed Exalt. Just because an applicant/interest (a rejected one at that) isn't the most savory of individuals in your mind does not give you a right to harass and humiliate them. Like didn't they have other rejects. did they shot them out too. i don't get it. and her performance was boring. BOOOOOOOOOOOO exactly why I think there is more to the story.. there is some history to this sit-chi-a-tion we aint being told |
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 21, 2010 13:18:54 GMT -5
exactly...if she's a reject why are they givinmg her so much of their energy. Like didn't they have other rejects. did they shot them out too. i don't get it. and her performance was boring. BOOOOOOOOOOOO exactly why I think there is more to the story.. there is some history to this sit-chi-a-tion we aint being told Excatly, folks don't just put people, in this case rejects, into their probate without a reason. There is a reason there, it is just folks outside of the chapter and that org. won't be privy too. There were alot of things that went on with rejects, etc., on my yard that on the outside looking in, you were like but those on the inside knew exactly what was going down and why. My prophytes probate reminds me of this. Before I became a member, I didn't know why they shouted out this reject. Once I was started going through the process, it was explained and it all made sense. Also, another thing to look at, don't know about the rest of you orgs., but the grad advisors for mine are VERY hands on and if something fishy was going on or if this girl wasn't being treated right or whatever, grad would be ALL over this. That is a little inside info for you all. That is why I'm kinda like whatever cause I know how grad operates. |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 13:32:22 GMT -5
I know! My UG Chapter couldnt and still cant make a move without the advisor all over it... thats why I couldnt see myself going to her chapter when I graduated, esp since most knew of me and my trouble making ass already! LOL You cant tell the advisor its not her chapter... and you bet not try to get rid of her as an advisor!
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Post by icebraka on Apr 21, 2010 13:33:49 GMT -5
3 sides to a story. And on my side.....I WILL make my side more believable.
I'm beyond that and in my eyes these are children. I've seen some rejects try to throw salt on a line by calling the RD and making up stuff to the RD. Ok...I'm sorry you weren't picked but do you have to call the RD because your feelings are hurt because you didn't get picked? Then she made matters worse by being "nikki manaj(sp)" while looking like a roly-poly on stage. Then she felt the need to show up at a party in the colors to mess with members in an org that you want to be apart of.
On the other hand......I totally agree with VP......it is a waste of time to worry about dissing someone that didn't start the pledge process with you. I think that they were talking about that girl. They did harass "thicky manaj". They need to be delt with in my opinion. But at the same time......we still don't know the other side.
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