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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on Apr 17, 2010 10:14:27 GMT -5
I just don't understand it.
We all know that Freemsaonry is older than BGLOs. But why do young Masons/Stars feel such a need to be better or compete with BGLOs? I have seen members from these groups rocking t-shirts and jackets similar to Greek paraphernalia. They are getting into heated debtaes with Greeks as to how elite they are and how much "info" they have on Greeks.
What's up with this?
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 19, 2010 8:42:05 GMT -5
GTFOH! Literally...
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Post by Chal™ on Apr 19, 2010 9:43:00 GMT -5
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Post by Cambist on Apr 19, 2010 9:50:22 GMT -5
Same reason many BGLO members act like gangs. We are all evolving in the wrong direction....
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Post by QueenOH on Apr 19, 2010 9:55:46 GMT -5
Why to BGLOs try to imitate GDIs?
I mean really we wore the color combinations first, We used the greek alphabet first...etc
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 19, 2010 10:07:35 GMT -5
Same reason many BGLO members act like gangs. We are all evolving in the wrong direction.... hmmm.. I don't neccessarily agree with this statement but hmmm... |
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Post by Cambist on Apr 19, 2010 10:13:19 GMT -5
Same reason many BGLO members act like gangs. We are all evolving in the wrong direction.... hmmm.. I don't neccessarily agree with this statement but hmmm... Speak on it, Reign.... |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 19, 2010 10:17:30 GMT -5
hmmm.. I don't neccessarily agree with this statement but hmmm... Speak on it, Reign.... Dude I def just got finish sending you a PM.... You know I gotta watch what I say in these greek threads... lol |
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Post by Bunny Hop on Apr 19, 2010 10:22:10 GMT -5
*hands Regin a e-bulletproof vest*
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 19, 2010 10:24:59 GMT -5
*hands Regin a e-bulletproof vest* |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 19, 2010 10:30:15 GMT -5
*hands Regin a e-bulletproof vest* LOL.. Right... *takes vests and backs out of the thread* |
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Post by Cambist on Apr 19, 2010 10:37:16 GMT -5
Well, we will just have to see if anyone else disagrees with me then. LOL!
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 19, 2010 11:14:05 GMT -5
<-- gang member
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Apr 19, 2010 11:32:18 GMT -5
Why to BGLOs try to imitate GDIs? I mean really we wore the color combinations first, We used the greek alphabet first...etc What set you claim? Who you with? Where you from? Dammit Queen, I hate it when you have a good point... |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Apr 19, 2010 11:34:17 GMT -5
Same reason many BGLO members act like gangs. We are all evolving in the wrong direction.... Then we need to start regressing... <--(ironic isnt it) |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 19, 2010 11:51:49 GMT -5
Why does it happen... I'll give you my view from 10,000 feet above answer
We emulate what we admire and envy, regardless of our substance, and regardless of the substance of that thing admired.
Plain and simple. From black people in hip hop idolizing mafia moguls, to white people trying to "slum it in the hood", to ZTAs stepping, to service orgs, academic orgs, non-D9 orgs, co-opting D9 culture... seismic movements in populations might be due to admiration and/or envy.
It is something we are susceptible to at all points in our life, but I would suggest we are least susceptible to it the older we get... you don't see older masons competing with BGLOs or vice versa.
The irony of admiration is that it's almost never an internal process. We just don't admire ourselves for being ourselves... we only seem to admire others for what we perceive them to be, and what we perceive ourselves not to be.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 19, 2010 12:01:06 GMT -5
^^^ like this... but Ill take it further to say is it admiration/envy or is it about what works.
When you think about it BGLO have had a 100 years or so to figure out what works with it comes to publicizing, branding, making your organization apealing etc. When you look at other organizations who seemingly emulate BGLO "culture" you have to wonder are they specifically saying we are trying to be like "the greeks" or the greeks found out what works on campus and we are going to do what works...
or is this what you mean but admiration...
OR *thought just popped in my head*
Could what we think of as BGLO culture be more of Black culture in general and it was just claimed by a subset.
I dont know.. I think I'm just rambling at this point hoping something will stick..lol
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Post by icebraka on Apr 19, 2010 12:12:35 GMT -5
Well, we will just have to see if anyone else disagrees with me then. LOL! I don't disagree....I'm a gang member and a star. |
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Post by icebraka on Apr 19, 2010 12:13:42 GMT -5
lmaooooo and you're a star! |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 19, 2010 12:50:04 GMT -5
LOL. Right!
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 19, 2010 13:30:08 GMT -5
What up, Nupey? How you been?
Like, for real.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 19, 2010 13:40:08 GMT -5
^^^ like this... but Ill take it further to say is it admiration/envy or is it about what works. When you think about it BGLO have had a 100 years or so to figure out what works with it comes to publicizing, branding, making your organization apealing etc. When you look at other organizations who seemingly emulate BGLO "culture" you have to wonder are they specifically saying we are trying to be like "the greeks" or the greeks found out what works on campus and we are going to do what works...
But honestly, what the culture is and has become, is not vital to growth or survival, anymore than ZTA really needed to be in the step show, or that rappers really need to have some sort of gangsta appeal. That's not to say culture itself isn't important, I'm saying the snap shot of what the culture is right now is not necessarily important to the orgs.
I'd argue it's not really about what works, it's about what appeals. You don't need to do step shows, calls, probates, hand signs (etc.) to be effective in a mission. Plenty of non-Greek organizations and even some Greek ones (WGLOs) do fine without any of it. People emulate it because it appeals. What people want is the appeal...
Think of it like this... how many black people want to be President now? How many of them are willing to travel the path that Obama did, do all the work he did, all without the assurance of success, JUST for the opportuntity to try decades down the road?
Some of what the problem is, is rooted in our collective culture of "Instant Gratification". I want, what I want, right now. It's not just BGLOs, it's everybody. |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 19, 2010 13:56:49 GMT -5
Some of what the problem is, is rooted in our collective culture of "Instant Gratification". I want, what I want, right now. It's not just BGLOs, it's everybody. [/color][/quote] Great point! So when having these discussions you really have to look at society as a whole... |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 19, 2010 14:26:54 GMT -5
Some of what the problem is, is rooted in our collective culture of "Instant Gratification". I want, what I want, right now. It's not just BGLOs, it's everybody. [/color][/quote] Great point! So when having these discussions you really have to look at society as a whole... [/quote] If and when it's relevant to do so, yes I agree. |
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Post by ShimmeringSTAR on Apr 20, 2010 10:05:27 GMT -5
:Sigh:
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Post by icebraka on Apr 20, 2010 10:16:26 GMT -5
and another thing.......some people get in because they know greeks are in the craft. they 'friendly-bob' with them in the hopes of membership in that greek's org.
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on Apr 20, 2010 20:29:05 GMT -5
What up, Nupey? How you been? Like, for real. Red is for girls. |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 21, 2010 9:32:56 GMT -5
and another thing.......some people get in because they know greeks are in the craft. they 'friendly-bob' with them in the hopes of membership in that greek's org. this is must confess... I gained entry into the OES so easily because a couple of them wanted to be Deltas... |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 21, 2010 11:45:35 GMT -5
and another thing.......some people get in because they know greeks are in the craft. they 'friendly-bob' with them in the hopes of membership in that greek's org. this is must confess... I gained entry into the OES so easily because a couple of them wanted to be Deltas... |
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Post by 123Diva on Apr 21, 2010 11:46:27 GMT -5
Dude I def just got finish sending you a PM.... You know I gotta watch what I say in these greek threads... lol LMAO! Why start now??? You scurred? |
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