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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:07:57 GMT -5
So I have been having a discussion with a guy friend of mine and we 're talking about the bible and how the man is supposed to be the head of the household.
What's your opinion on that; is that literally or figuratively speaking?
Are women too independent?
Do we talk more than we listen?
talk.
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Post by Nupey on Jan 30, 2008 17:09:31 GMT -5
......Here we go....
<----Looks for Out to come in with her rallying crowd
<----Goes to Men's Forum to give views on said topic
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Post by paindahustla on Jan 30, 2008 17:12:09 GMT -5
do yall ever stop talking?
and yall only hear what u all want to hear...
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:12:31 GMT -5
Why you gotta do me like this Nupie? LOL I have always been one of your supporters.
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:13:02 GMT -5
LOL. No, this is a topic for both men and women, that's why i put it here. I want to hear opinion it is...
my opinion was that when we say "I dont need a man" thats moreso about material things.
and personally, i dont mind him being the "head".. i just dont want him to think his word is always final, that my thought, feelings and opinion counts, and that we are in this together. I personally think "head of household" is figuretively speaking... he's not suppose to be "master"...
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:15:50 GMT -5
do yall ever stop talking? and yall only hear what u all want to hear... he did say thats part of the problem.. we are so independent, we are hell bent on wanting what we want... our way or no way..lol |
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Post by Warner Fite on Jan 30, 2008 17:16:41 GMT -5
The man is to love his wife as Jesus loves his people. Being the head doesn't mean being a dictator. If our savior could get down and wash the feet of his followers a husband can cater to the needs of his wife. It's about mutual respect. Sadly, many men twist this to suit their own needs and ego. A good man understands his role just as a good woman understands hers.
Oh and yes, some women are taking the independent thing too far. Independence is ok but we were created to compliment each other. We shouldn't forget that. PREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEACH IT Troofus! |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:17:59 GMT -5
The man is to love his wife as Jesus loves his people. Being the head doesn't mean being a dictator. If our savior could get down and wash the feet of his followers a husband can cater to the needs of his wife. It's about mutual respect. Sadly, many men twist this to suit their own needs and ego. A good man understands his role just as a good woman understands hers.
Oh and yes, some women are taking the independent thing too far. Independence is ok but we were created to compliment each other. We shouldn't forget that. here here! I will never lie and say i dont need a man.. because i do.. maybe not for material things like cars, clothes, etc.. but we need a man! |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:19:15 GMT -5
LOL. No, this is a topic for both men and women, that's why i put it here. I want to hear opinion it is... my opinion was that when we say "I dont need a man" thats moreso about material things. and personally, i dont mind him being the "head".. i just dont want him to think his word is always final, that my thought, feelings and opinion counts, and that we are in this together. I personally think "head of household" is figuretively speaking... he's not suppose to be "master"... hell, I want him to handle that shit so all i got to do is cook, wash clothes, and shop! |
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Post by paindahustla on Jan 30, 2008 17:20:57 GMT -5
yeah...these women down here letting Lil Boosie and Webbie get to them...
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:21:16 GMT -5
;D Paranoia of the highest kind. LOL. No, this is a topic for both men and women, that's why i put it here. I want to hear opinion it is... my opinion was that when we say "I dont need a man" thats moreso about material things. and personally, i dont mind him being the "head".. i just dont want him to think his word is always final, that my thought, feelings and opinion counts, and that we are in this together. I personally think "head of household" is figuretively speaking... he's not suppose to be "master"... |
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:24:35 GMT -5
When you find a man who treats you like a human being of worth everything falls in line. You find yourself doing things with ease. You have no problem trusting his judgement and his leadership skills. You have no trouble respecting him and honoring him. You have no trouble doing your part. You have no trouble biting your tongue. I can go on and on. good post! hell, I want him to handle that shit so all i got to do is cook, wash clothes, and shop! |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:24:54 GMT -5
yeah...these women down here letting Lil Boosie and Webbie get to them... LOL I.N.D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.T ..... |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 17:25:58 GMT -5
First off fuck the bible it promotes an unhealthy relationship between the man and woman. Especially black men and black women. I have said this before. Black men who have problems with sistahs do so because they want them to be EVE. A black woman naturally isnt like that.
Furthermore in the household the woman runs the house and the man protects it and is the outward representative of it. I see the male/female matrix together as a judge and together makes the laws. The woman is the lawyer and the man is the policeman who enforces the law.
The woman sits her clients(children) and tell them the laws and other statutes of limitations. Then when one of those are broken the policeman (father) enforces that law.
In the end the lawyer sometimes trumps the policeman into omitting some of the charges after a great night of you know what.
Fellas you have experienced this:
Dad: You grounded!
Mom: See son sigh...
commotion all night music playing grown up drink every where
Next morning
Dad: Yanno son I had a change of heart you off punishment
Mom: Smiles and winks in the background
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 17:26:20 GMT -5
Lies, lies, and scandalous lies
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 30, 2008 17:29:32 GMT -5
do what works for you and yours
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:33:39 GMT -5
VP---Such strong words at the beginning! Sheesh!
However I do agree with your stance to a certain extent.
I do not subscribe to a "head of the house" hold as most people have adopted it. I believe it's a unique partnership that balances itself out.
Patriarchy fueled by chauvanism causes so many problems in the black relationship it's trifling.
I can not begin to explain all of this here.
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Post by paindahustla on Jan 30, 2008 17:35:45 GMT -5
lol
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 17:43:09 GMT -5
If I'm supposed to love my wife like Christ loved the church that means:
If someone has to jump off the life raft to make sure you and the kids survive - that's me
If someone has to go downstairs and confront the intruder in our home - that's gonna be me
If someone has to run back into the burning building to save the kids - it's me
If someone has to take a bullet it's me
If someone has to shield the family with their body - that's me
If someone has to die for you all to live that's me...
...in turn if I ask you to have Lasagna ready for me when I get home, how about you do 7 layers, and 7 types of cheese, and have a salad and a drink waiting for me without me even having to ask.
I promise you when $h!t hits the fan you won't have to ask me to protect you - I'll do it willingly without hesitation because THAT'S my purpose - to ensure your safety and ensure our children live on - even at the expense of my life.
If you know this, and you know I'm not going to quibble about doing my job when the time comes, how about you don't quibble about having to wash dishes... I mean really.
*Drops mic and walks out*
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Post by happy1 on Jan 30, 2008 17:43:35 GMT -5
Was once asked what I thought my role was. I said whatever my wife needed it to be. If she needs me to take the lead on a project, cool. If she says she will go ahead and get the information, sure. If I didn't completely trust her judgement, why be married? I simply don't get hung up on roles. Besides, she makes more than me anyway ;D
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Post by goldenepiphany on Jan 30, 2008 17:44:58 GMT -5
A Man Can Run It If He Pay For It
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 30, 2008 17:46:34 GMT -5
hell, I want him to handle that shit so all i got to do is cook, wash clothes, and shop! I think that's the most important thing people need to understand. A lot of guys are not worth that. Dudes are out here talking crazy to you, cheating, lying etc or are JUST your boyfriend but they expect you do all of this stuff. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 17:47:25 GMT -5
A Man Can Run It If He Pay For It
Anyway, so if a woman pays for everything that means she runs it right? |
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Post by Warner Fite on Jan 30, 2008 17:48:49 GMT -5
If I'm supposed to love my wife like Christ loved the church that means:
If someone has to jump off the life raft to make sure you and the kids survive - that's me
If someone has to go downstairs and confront the intruder in our home - that's gonna be me
If someone has to run back into the burning building to save the kids - it's me
If someone has to take a bullet it's me
If someone has to shield the family with their body - that's me
If someone has to die for you all to live that's me...
...in turn if I ask you to have Lasagna ready for me when I get home, how about you do 7 layers, and 7 types of cheese, and have a salad and a drink waiting for me without me even having to ask.
I promise you when $h!t hits the fan you won't have to ask me to protect you - I'll do it willingly without hesitation because THAT'S my purpose - to ensure your safety and ensure our children live on - even at the expense of my life.
If you know this, and you know I'm not going to quibble about doing my job when the time comes, how about you don't quibble about having to wash dishes... I mean really.
*Drops mic and walks out* If this doesn't prove out that men are really simple and predictable creatures of life...then I don't know what else to say? Damie, I think this post was something of a profound nature. **thinks and ponders again** Yeah, it was. Something little said with big undertones. ...well said blackman. |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 30, 2008 17:49:03 GMT -5
If I'm supposed to love my wife like Christ loved the church that means:
If someone has to jump off the life raft to make sure you and the kids survive - that's me
If someone has to go downstairs and confront the intruder in our home - that's gonna be me
If someone has to run back into the burning building to save the kids - it's me
If someone has to take a bullet it's me
If someone has to shield the family with their body - that's me
If someone has to die for you all to live that's me...
...in turn if I ask you to have Lasagna ready for me when I get home, how about you do 7 layers, and 7 types of cheese, and have a salad and a drink waiting for me without me even having to ask.
I promise you when $h!t hits the fan you won't have to ask me to protect you - I'll do it willingly without hesitation because THAT'S my purpose - to ensure your safety and ensure our children live on - even at the expense of my life.
If you know this, and you know I'm not going to quibble about doing my job when the time comes, how about you don't quibble about having to wash dishes... I mean really.
*Drops mic and walks out* <-- got a little emotional I :heart: you Damie! |
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:56:07 GMT -5
I applaud your for this approach. This is one I would feel comfortable with... Was once asked what I thought my role was. I said whatever my wife needed it to be. If she needs me to take the lead on a project, cool. If she says she will go ahead and get the information, sure. If I didn't completely trust her judgement, why be married? I simply don't get hung up on roles. Besides, she makes more than me anyway ;D |
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Post by princeprimo on Jan 30, 2008 17:56:19 GMT -5
The man is to love his wife as Jesus loves his people. Being the head doesn't mean being a dictator. If our savior could get down and wash the feet of his followers a husband can cater to the needs of his wife. It's about mutual respect. Sadly, many men twist this to suit their own needs and ego. A good man understands his role just as a good woman understands hers.
Oh and yes, some women are taking the independent thing too far. Independence is ok but we were created to compliment each other. We shouldn't forget that. Wow! Preach DiS!! and a AAAAMMMMMEENNN!!! |
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 17:59:40 GMT -5
Dis does deserve a collection plate up in this joint!!! Just game from the prayer closet--didn't ya? LOL
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 18:00:26 GMT -5
By the way you are out of Negative Karma! WOOOHOOO!!
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 18:02:00 GMT -5
Weeeellllllllllllllll!(gets the plate going) LOL If y'all wanna pass a collection plate around you can. I need a new imac air pro to type my sermons on!
Amen!
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