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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 11:32:33 GMT -5
How relevant is the Palin's Pregnant Daughter essential to the campaign? Right now, she is the most famous 17 year old-pregant young lady in the world. Is this a fair approach? Or, is this the best the media can do, given that they do not have much information on Palin? Don't fall in the trap team. This is the trap. Did she make a mistake or is she a bad mother.. If the Obama camp bites then there will be a relook into how he sat up in Rev Wright's church for 20 years and not know about his feelings regarding the government and race relations in this country. If Palin is painted guilty as being a bad mother then we can't absolve Obama for not being aware or even onboard with views of Rev Wright, Bill Ayers and others. This is gonna force them to stick to the issues. And lets not forget there are ALOT of voters who were teen mothers, off spring of teen mothers and the mothers and fathers of teen mothers. All they gonna see is a career woman with 5 children trying to do the best she can. I wouldn't touch this chit at all if I was Obama's camp. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 11:40:43 GMT -5
She is champion of "family values" and has been a vocal proponent of abstinence only in schools - and yet can't seem to enforce it in her own home - it is not hard to see why the media is picking up on this. Don't fall in the trap team. This is the trap. Did she make a mistake or is she a bad mother.. If the Obama camp bites then there will be a relook into how he sat up in Rev Wright's church for 20 years and not know about his feelings regarding the government and race relations in this country. If Palin is painted guilty as being a bad mother then we can't absolve Obama for not being aware or even onboard with views of Rev Wright, Bill Ayers and others. This is gonna force them to stick to the issues. And lets not forget there are ALOT of voters who were teen mothers, off spring of teen mothers and the mothers and fathers of teen mothers. All they gonna see is a career woman with 5 children trying to do the best she can. I wouldn't touch this chit at all if I was Obama's camp. |
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Post by No Screen Name on Sept 2, 2008 12:33:28 GMT -5
My opinion is this: there is enough stuff we can talk about regarding Mrs. Palin to highlight her inexperience and unreadiness to be VP or president without bringing her daughter into it. The ONLY reasons I think it's even an issue (or at least MY reasons) are: 1. Palin is a strong right-wing conservative--a group of people who pride themselves in having strong "morals" 2. Palin supports "Abstainence-Only" sex education, and doesn't believe in comprehensive sex-ed. If it couldn't even work in your own household, why should this be implemented in all of our schools? 3. The fishiness with her own pregnancy--something just doesn't add up and 4. Palin herself threw her daughter's pregnancy out there. It WOULD have come out eventually, but it didn't have to come out so soon if she hadn't said anything.
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Post by Southie on Sept 2, 2008 12:38:27 GMT -5
I have heard the issue of "experience" come up several times, and some would argue that Palin (Gov of Alaska) has more relevant experience than Obama. In terms of the pregancy issue, clearly the daughter disagrees with her mother's stance on abstinence, so does this make Palin a bad mother? (very similar to what voodoo stated earlier).
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Post by MochaD on Sept 2, 2008 12:45:58 GMT -5
Thread Hijack (a lil off topic...just a lil)...
Y'all read this (I think), but now y'all can see it:
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 2, 2008 12:47:28 GMT -5
I have heard the issue of "experience" come up several times, and some would argue that Palin (Gov of Alaska) has more relevant experience than Obama. In terms of the pregancy issue, clearly the daughter disagrees with her mother's stance on abstinence, so does this make Palin a bad mother? (very similar to what voodoo stated earlier). It's like Obama said last night. She was responsible to make executive decisions as governor with a staff of about 50 people, and a yearly budget of $12 million. He has for the past 18 months directed a staff of over 2500 or more and manages a budget of 3 times that in one month. That executive experience stuff can be looked at both ways. |
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 12:56:25 GMT -5
this is SUCH a train wreck! as a Dem and O supporter, ya gotta love it!
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Post by Cambist on Sept 2, 2008 12:57:14 GMT -5
Alaska has a "projected" 2008 population of about 683, 478 people. That's about the side of the Greater Little Rock, AR area.
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 13:00:39 GMT -5
Alaska has a "projected" 2008 population of about 683, 478 people. That's about the side of the Greater Little Rock, AR area. and let's not forget that it's not part of the continental US. So tell me how can she relate to john q public who lives in Cairo, IL or Tupelo, MS? |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 13:29:28 GMT -5
and some would argue that Palin (Gov of Alaska) has more relevant experience than Obama.
If you want to put the experience to rest - let someone (her surrogate, the McCain campaign, the GOP) name specifics. |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 13:29:53 GMT -5
Don't fall in the trap team. This is the trap. Did she make a mistake or is she a bad mother.. If the Obama camp bites then there will be a relook into how he sat up in Rev Wright's church for 20 years and not know about his feelings regarding the government and race relations in this country. If Palin is painted guilty as being a bad mother then we can't absolve Obama for not being aware or even onboard with views of Rev Wright, Bill Ayers and others. This is gonna force them to stick to the issues. And lets not forget there are ALOT of voters who were teen mothers, off spring of teen mothers and the mothers and fathers of teen mothers. All they gonna see is a career woman with 5 children trying to do the best she can. I wouldn't touch this chit at all if I was Obama's camp. You know, that is the beauty of this whole thing...Obama comes out smelling like a rose. He was very forceful in his request to leave family out of it, even relating Sarah's daughter to his own mother...Brilliant!! But you are right, the bloggers are like sharks that smell blood, they are turning out new stories every couple of hours with more and more supporting evidence. It is funny now to hear the republicans railing against the liberal bloggers for putting this information out when no one asked them to stop going after Obama with all of their rumors. They can't stand it when the same tactics are used against them. Their little house of cards is tumbling down around them and I think it is hilarious... |
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Post by Worthy Most Ancient Matron on Sept 2, 2008 21:13:05 GMT -5
ok so they're proud she "decided" to keep the baby and they're "proud" to be granparents............that's it? no dissapointment in their 17 year old getting pregnant? no sadness? let down even? weird....... .....and the solution to your 17 year old getting pregnant is to mary the guy? really?? ....weird..... and everyone's ok with it.... But when Shaquanda up the skreet does the exact same thing, she's loose, has no morals and is irresponsible.  Exactly |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 21:44:20 GMT -5
Now they are flying Bristol's "fiancee" in to stand on stage with the family tomorrow night.
I think it is awful that they are using those kids as props. Now they want to make it seem like he is a real part of their family. I guess as a 17 year old kid, this is all pretty exciting for him though.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 22:24:11 GMT -5
For a self described m------ f------ redneck, I bet this trip WOULD be exciting to him. They should let him give a speech too. ;D
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 2, 2008 22:33:06 GMT -5
Yeah he can tell the crowd how he doesn't want any babies.
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 22:43:56 GMT -5
I just think it is shameful. These kids are being thrust onto the national stage.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 22:47:36 GMT -5
They should have Dick Cheney bring Lynn Cheney on and try to convert her to heterosexual right there on stage...
...bonus points if they don't tell her about the plans ahead of time, the first time she gets to know about it is on stage. Now that would be a hot ticket and I promise you I'd watch that. If you're gonna exploit your kids for political points - you might as well go all out.
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Post by Robelite on Sept 3, 2008 9:06:42 GMT -5
vd,
You have to look at where the sympathy for Palin is coming from...the EXTREME right wing of the republican party. That within itself shows what hypocrites they are.
They are such pious and devout "christians," yet, they rally to the support of this woman with the pregnant teen-ager.
I posted on another thread that if this were either Malia or Sasha Obama in this predicament, the right wing lunatics would be all over it like flies on shit! While this girl surely does need love and support rather than persecution and villification, we all know that if she were of a different "hue" and political persuasion, those hypocritical asses would want to burn her....and her mother at the stake!!
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Post by nsync on Sept 3, 2008 20:44:17 GMT -5
Palin stays. Daughter gets married. Story dies. Special needs baby is reared by daughter and new husband. Then we can all return to Palin's lack of experience. Also, her husband is a traveling fisherman. He should stay home. Teen pregnancy & lack of father figure tend to correlate.
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