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Post by ACES on Sept 1, 2008 20:00:26 GMT -5
ok so they're proud she "decided" to keep the baby and they're "proud" to be granparents............that's it? no dissapointment in their 17 year old getting pregnant? no sadness? let down even?
weird.......
.....and the solution to your 17 year old getting pregnant is to mary the guy? really??
....weird.....
and everyone's ok with it....
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Post by ACES on Sept 1, 2008 20:05:43 GMT -5
reading alot about this on MB's today and most women who commented on this were distrubed by Palin's decision to be VP knowing she has a pregnant teenage daughter. The sentiment is that she knew what scrutiny she and her family would be under. So to place your daughter in that position was viewed as selfish and something that a mother wouldn't do.
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Post by ACES on Sept 1, 2008 20:12:16 GMT -5
as long as O and the Dems keep the focus on Mcain and his poor judgement when it came to picking Palin, they'll avoid the pitfalls the GOP his praying they'll step into.
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Post by Highly Favored on Sept 1, 2008 20:23:46 GMT -5
I do think some of this stuff is outrageous. Her husband had a DWI 24 years ago? LOL...who cares. But the fact is, she was picked simply because she's a woman. Being mayor of a town of 7,000 and Governor of Alaska is hardly "executive experience" enough to qualify one for being a heartbeat away from the presidency. I agree. |
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Post by No Screen Name on Sept 1, 2008 21:00:39 GMT -5
ok so they're proud she "decided" to keep the baby and they're "proud" to be granparents............that's it? no dissapointment in their 17 year old getting pregnant? no sadness? let down even? weird....... .....and the solution to your 17 year old getting pregnant is to mary the guy? really?? ....weird..... and everyone's ok with it.... But when Shaquanda up the skreet does the exact same thing, she's loose, has no morals and is irresponsible.  |
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Post by 123Diva on Sept 1, 2008 22:19:31 GMT -5
ok so they're proud she "decided" to keep the baby and they're "proud" to be granparents............that's it? no dissapointment in their 17 year old getting pregnant? no sadness? let down even? weird....... .....and the solution to your 17 year old getting pregnant is to mary the guy? really?? ....weird..... and everyone's ok with it.... Palin may be playing the part Daddy Knowles did with 17 year old 'expecting' Solange...same script different characters. Anywho, I'm sure they are disappointed but may not feel the need to express that to the public. Too many shady things are going on at the moment, seriously...can't wait til November; let's get it over with. |
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Post by pinkngreen06 on Sept 1, 2008 23:32:50 GMT -5
Not to play devil's advocate but do you think that Palin is / will use her daughter's pregnancy as a way to further identify with the average american. I mean look at it Brittan Spear's little sister just went through a very public pregnancy and it was celebrated in damn near every magazine. There is this new show on the ABC Family (Secret Life of the American Teenager) where the story line is set around a teen girl getting pregnant. Honestly I think that the GOP knew what was really going on with Palin's daughter and used that as a way to make the party more relateable to families in this situation.
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 1, 2008 23:43:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but this Alaskan Independent Party situation and this trooper situation could be intriguing. he daughter doesn't have much to do with her. The daughter was basically a grown woman, but Palin was directly involved with these other 2 ordeals.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 7:09:43 GMT -5
Sigh...
Not directed at any one person in particular - but some of this conspiracy talk that's been going on in the threads in this section (Serious Talk) is getting ridiculous. I mean really y'all?
What's next? Are we going to theorize that Hurricane Gustav was actually part of the GOP and John McCain's plan to woo the American voters through the sympathy angle? They somehow knew, when they were scheduling their convention, that a hurricane would hit forcing Bush to cancel his visit, and allow the GOP to put on a telethon to seem more family orientated?
I mean seriously y'all...
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 7:47:20 GMT -5
lol @ some of the spin I've heard the rethuglicans put on this thing.....unbelievable...
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Post by Cambist on Sept 2, 2008 8:07:10 GMT -5
In all fairness, when Elizabeth Edwards cancer came back many were saying that he should end his bid for president and be with his wife.
She has a:
1. 7 month old child with special needs
2. 18 year old son who will be in harms way
3. 17 year old daughter who is pregnant
Call me a misogynystic, call me insinsitve to a working woman but she needs to have her ass at home! Would I say the same thing if it had been her husband? Probably but i'm not certain.
Let's face it, she is not only a woman with 5 children and these issues but she is a Ultra-Conservative, Evangelical, Holy Rollin', Family Values Invoking Republican. She needs to be at home.
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 8:09:10 GMT -5
In all fairness, when Elizabeth Edwards cancer came back many were saying that he should end his bid for president and be with his wife. She has a: 1. 7 month old child with special needs 2. 18 year old son who will be in harms way 3. 17 year old daughter who is pregnant Call me a misogynystic, call me insinsitve to a working woman but she needs to have her ass at home! Would I say the same thing if it had been her husband? Probably but i'm not certain. Let's face it, she is not only a woman with 5 children and these issues but she is a Ultra-Conservative, Evangelical, Holy Rollin', Family Values Invoking Republican. She needs to be at home. and republicans would say that you're being sexist and use you and your words to sway uneducated, rual, white women voters. lol.... |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 8:34:52 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^And THAT isn't a conspiracy its the truth right there. How else can we make sense of this pick without looking at it as an attempt to sway public opinion. They are using the Gender Card. Thus far everything is going as planned.
A mother of 5 with common problems and with a son going to Iraq.. shessh you couldn't write a better story.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 8:36:40 GMT -5
I mean its perfect and it heads off Biden's boy going to fight as well. Bet yall didn't make the connection....
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 8:42:10 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^^And THAT isn't a conspiracy its the truth right there. How else can we make sense of this pick without looking at it as an attempt to sway public opinion. They are using the Gender Card. Thus far everything is going as planned. A mother of 5 with common problems and with a son going to Iraq.. shessh you couldn't write a better story. however, when people cite, legitmately, her inexperience and lack of qualifications, republicans cannot cry sexism. And THIS is what they're attempting to do: turn legit arguments demonstrating her inexperience into the messenger being sexist. THAT's BULLshit! and people need to be smart enough to see through this....unfortunately, it's the uneducated that may not be able to do this and this GROUP is the prime target for such tactics. |
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Post by Cambist on Sept 2, 2008 8:42:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Aces...I was just told that in so many words.
In that case, Obama should have chosen a Black woman to be his running mate. They would have been untouchable!!
As a matter of fact, a single mother with a special needs child, who lives in public housing, had her house forclosed on and is a former Enron employee...
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Post by Southie on Sept 2, 2008 8:43:23 GMT -5
In all fairness, when Elizabeth Edwards cancer came back many were saying that he should end his bid for president and be with his wife. She has a: 1. 7 month old child with special needs 2. 18 year old son who will be in harms way 3. 17 year old daughter who is pregnant Call me a misogynystic, call me insinsitve to a working woman but she needs to have her ass at home! Would I say the same thing if it had been her husband? Probably but i'm not certain. Let's face it, she is not only a woman with 5 children and these issues but she is a Ultra-Conservative, Evangelical, Holy Rollin', Family Values Invoking Republican. She needs to be at home. That is very interesting...the daughter having "relations" and not married, unprotected "relations", and yet she wants to preach about being ultra conservative. Really? Also, is she ready to uproot her family from Alaska to Washington (If they were to win) |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 9:19:00 GMT -5
He should have chosen Governor Jindal if he wanted a Washington outsider. He has handled Gustav well and was a very good surrogate for McCain. He would still have a minority on the ticket.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 9:44:00 GMT -5
It's not too late Prissy. I expect Palin to drop out for "family reasons" (that's my prediction) then he'll be free to pick someone else.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 10:09:37 GMT -5
It's not too late Prissy. I expect Palin to drop out for "family reasons" (that's my prediction) then he'll be free to pick someone else. If she drops out because of family issues it will still be a plus for Mccain. Probably more so of a plus since he can reap the sympathy vote without the baggage probably saying something like she will be in his cabinet or something. The smoke and mirrors of American Politics.... 50 minutes before RUSH comes on. Lets see what he has to say today about this. |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 10:10:32 GMT -5
Palin won't last. The only people who like her are the strong conservative base. She won't last, there are pictures of Bristol drinking on her myspace page. It keeps getting uglier and uglier.
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 2, 2008 10:15:44 GMT -5
Sigh...
Not directed at any one person in particular - but some of this conspiracy talk that's been going on in the threads in this section (Serious Talk) is getting ridiculous. I mean really y'all?
What's next? Are we going to theorize that Hurricane Gustav was actually part of the GOP and John McCain's plan to woo the American voters through the sympathy angle? They somehow knew, when they were scheduling their convention, that a hurricane would hit forcing Bush to cancel his visit, and allow the GOP to put on a telethon to seem more family orientated?
I mean seriously y'all... Which conspiracy/ies are you referring to in particular? There are a few which seem ridiculous, but a few that need to be explained. Also, because of the corner the GOP painted themselves into...regarding "conspiracies" with the Obama campaign, they need to set an example and take these rumors head on. Start a website that takes down the rumo...Oh wait, the Obama campaign already did that. So maybe they won't be setting an example, but they'll be following the lead of...hmmm, wait...They'll be putting Country First and protecting the ideals of the American Heartland by being firm with the terrorists who attack our core values and (cue eagle and "Battle Hym of the Republic") spread the communist propoganda that will destroy our constitution if we don't FIGHT! HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ONNNNNN! |
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Post by ACES on Sept 2, 2008 10:16:30 GMT -5
Palin won't last. The only people who like her are the strong conservative base. She won't last, there are pictures of Bristol drinking on her myspace page. It keeps getting uglier and uglier. lol....really? again, all the Dems need to do is focus on Mcain's lack of judgement and care when it came to picking Palin. |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 10:26:20 GMT -5
It's not too late Prissy. I expect Palin to drop out for "family reasons" (that's my prediction) then he'll be free to pick someone else. If she drops out because of family issues it will still be a plus for Mccain. Probably more so of a plus since he can reap the sympathy vote without the baggage probably saying something like she will be in his cabinet or something. The smoke and mirrors of American Politics.... 50 minutes before RUSH comes on. Lets see what he has to say today about this. You listen to Rush? I used to but it is too painful now, I can only do small spurts then I have to turn...it's like jamming sharp pencils through my eardrums. |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Sept 2, 2008 10:29:41 GMT -5
Sigh...
Not directed at any one person in particular - but some of this conspiracy talk that's been going on in the threads in this section (Serious Talk) is getting ridiculous. I mean really y'all?
What's next? Are we going to theorize that Hurricane Gustav was actually part of the GOP and John McCain's plan to woo the American voters through the sympathy angle? They somehow knew, when they were scheduling their convention, that a hurricane would hit forcing Bush to cancel his visit, and allow the GOP to put on a telethon to seem more family orientated?
I mean seriously y'all... Which conspiracy/ies are you referring to in particular? There are a few which seem ridiculous, but a few that need to be explained. Also, because of the corner the GOP painted themselves into...regarding "conspiracies" with the Obama campaign, they need to set an example and take these rumors head on. Start a website that takes down the rumo...Oh wait, the Obama campaign already did that. So maybe they won't be setting an example, but they'll be following the lead of...hmmm, wait...They'll be putting Country First and protecting the ideals of the American Heartland by being firm with the terrorists who attack our core values and (cue eagle and "Battle Hym of the Republic") spread the communist propoganda that will destroy our constitution if we don't FIGHT! HIS TRUTH IS MARCHING ONNNNNN! Fair or unfair, ridiculous or sane; McCain invited all of this intense scrutiny because he was going for the element of surprise. If he had done the traditional vetting, a lot of this stuff would have been found out, but he didn't want the media to get wind of the fact that she was on his short list. he wanted to immediately shift attention away from Obama and the success of the Democratic convention, well he got his wish...nobody is even thinking about Obama now. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 10:39:04 GMT -5
If she drops out because of family issues it will still be a plus for Mccain. Probably more so of a plus since he can reap the sympathy vote without the baggage probably saying something like she will be in his cabinet or something. The smoke and mirrors of American Politics.... 50 minutes before RUSH comes on. Lets see what he has to say today about this. You listen to Rush? I used to but it is too painful now, I can only do small spurts then I have to turn...it's like jamming sharp pencils through my eardrums. Yes and its HILARIOUS. I can't listen to Hannity as much because he never lets people speak unless it Rangel. Rep Rangel and JC Watts are the only dudes I have heard Hannity show respect for on his show. I'm gonna tell you who is hella funny as well. Mark Levin. That saltine has screws loose seriously |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Sept 2, 2008 10:42:31 GMT -5
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Sept 2, 2008 10:55:33 GMT -5
Sorry but I immediately thought of this when I saw the "fucking redneck" thing |
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Post by Southie on Sept 2, 2008 11:08:56 GMT -5
How relevant is the Palin's Pregnant Daughter essential to the campaign? Right now, she is the most famous 17 year old-pregant young lady in the world. Is this a fair approach? Or, is this the best the media can do, given that they do not have much information on Palin?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Sept 2, 2008 11:26:14 GMT -5
How relevant is the Palin's Pregnant Daughter essential to the campaign? Right now, she is the most famous 17 year old-pregant young lady in the world. Is this a fair approach? Or, is this the best the media can do, given that they do not have much information on Palin? |
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