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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:52:25 GMT -5
Oh I understand that but read what I said again. In short what I am saying is whether you claim him or not God is God of all. So your bible says... but there are other holy books that state other wise... again not condoning actions or beliefs here.. just trying to neutralize the conversation Well the only point of view I can speak from is my own. I dig and get the whole thing about different beliefs but I don't hold them as valid any more than they hold mine so I guess we are at a stalemate. I believe the Bible to be God's word period.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 13:53:04 GMT -5
Oh I understand that but read what I said again. In short what I am saying is whether you claim him or not God is God of all. PLEASE DON'T do that. I'm serious. That is SO ethnocentric. EVERY religion feels that way. Damie<~~~~~I BEGGED Glam NOT to go there. They aren't even Christian! King Solomon<~~~~dat's all I'm sayin on this. The counter point (and perhaps legtimate one) is that Solomon is not held up as the model for a the family unit. God tolerated Israel desire to have an earthly king instead of Himself, it didn't mean that He approved of it. Same with Solomon's situation. That all said, I don't see how we got from "an open relationship" to debating Christian, Jewish, and Islamic law.
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:54:01 GMT -5
Starts passing out Oil T-shirts and Gasoline drawers for trip to Hades. ;D
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:54:22 GMT -5
My goodness Reign you love to debate/agrue with me it seems. I just don't believe in dipping in and out of marriage. My background, personality, and Religion just can not accept it. You've seen my other post on similar topics About pre-martial sex sex before your wedding day all that. I hear what you saying but I don't think its right. I will not be swayed Can we agree to disagree? I love you Glam and actually this is our FIRST debate/arguement Sm0oches. ;D maybe I was getting you confused with cameltoe or isn't foot? but you know him.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 13:55:49 GMT -5
R O T F L
Snap - did she just come at Cam sideways with that one? LOL - yes I believe she did.
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:56:52 GMT -5
She didn't just call CameltoFoot....CamelToe. Freudian slip...you decide. LOL :smh:
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:57:35 GMT -5
Damie we're >>here<<< you just beat me to the punch. LOL
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 15, 2008 13:57:40 GMT -5
Wow - did this really just turn into a religious debate? anytime morals come into play the bible is never far behind... @ Damie & Reign...Agreed!
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:58:13 GMT -5
R O T F L
Snap - did she just come at Cam sideways with that one? LOL - yes I believe she did. My bad I couldn't remember his name. Its Cameltofoot. before someone comes in here and call me a bitch for it.lol
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:58:27 GMT -5
Are Muslims and Jews also bound by Christian Laws?? First there aren't Christian Laws....but that is a discussion for another day. My belief and assertion as a follower of Christ is that just because someone doesn't acknowlege God doesn't make them exempt from judgement. Example: Wesley Snipes didn't pay his taxes why because he believed them to be unconstitutional and didn't pay because he felt he wasn't required to. Did that stop the IRS from coming at him to get that guap and give him jail time...NOPE!!. He has to pay and will probably go to jail despite his belief that they could not require him to pay taxes. So no matter his belief he was subject to the consequences of his actions even though he didn't think they had authority. Capice? So let's just hope when ya get there you don't find this man standing over you...
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 14:00:40 GMT -5
I'm just surpised at the close mindedness... i'm not saying you all have to agree with it, but at least be able to objectively understand other viewpoints... after all we are college educated individuals..
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 14:01:03 GMT -5
LOL @ Logakal....Jesus was a Jew so I'd be straight. ;D
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 14:01:42 GMT -5
The advertisement banner at the top of my screen:
Advertisement: Classical Hebrew. Learn Biblical Hebrew Online With the HOly Land's best teachers
Sometimes I feel like Google is straight up stalking us on the web. LOL.
By the way - this was post 3,000 for Damie. Respect my 3. Respect it.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 14:02:22 GMT -5
LMAO...I hope ya been eating right!
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 14:03:49 GMT -5
Damie<~I request elaboration on the Outtie reference please. PM if you'd prefer. Not rush, but sometime soon. Thank You!
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 14:04:45 GMT -5
I'm just surprised at the close mindedness... i'm not saying you all have to agree with it, but at least be able to objectively understand other viewpoints... after all we are college educated individuals.. I wouldn't say we're close minded. I mean if one was open to everything. What would they stand for? Sometimes you got to choose a side. Plus, aren't they a little close-minded by shutting out the idea that can't be happily married and monogamous.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 14:05:12 GMT -5
LOL.. Mine is singlemuslim.com
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 14:06:51 GMT -5
Damie<~I request elaboration on the Outtie reference please. PM if you'd prefer. Not rush, but sometime soon. Thank You! OutofDust aka Outtie was an OO regular.. she had interesting viewpoints
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 15, 2008 14:08:05 GMT -5
The advertisement banner at the top of my screen:
Advertisement: Classical Hebrew. Learn Biblical Hebrew Online With the HOly Land's best teachers
Sometimes I feel like Google is straight up stalking us on the web. LOL.
By the way - this was post 3,000 for Damie. Respect my 3. Respect it. Damie3k! you have WAY too much time on these boards:). Congrats!
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 15, 2008 14:10:50 GMT -5
Damie<~I request elaboration on the Outtie reference please. PM if you'd prefer. Not rush, but sometime soon. Thank You! OutofDust aka Outtie was an OO regular.. she had interesting viewpoints Sounds like a belly button reference, not sure why anyone would brag about that though..............
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 14:14:56 GMT -5
Damie<~I request elaboration on the Outtie reference please. PM if you'd prefer. Not rush, but sometime soon. Thank You! PM on the way
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 14:15:03 GMT -5
I'm just surpised at the close mindedness... i'm not saying you all have to agree with it, but at least be able to objectively understand other viewpoints... after all we are college educated individuals.. I've said I understand where people are coming from but I don't agree which is my right. College education has nothing to do with believing what you believe. I can see all day where someone is coming from but still disagree. Since we are playing devil's advocate where do you stand on this Reign? Do you think it would be acceptable for you and your wife to subscribe to the Will and Jada Smith method of marriage? ;D
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 15, 2008 14:16:44 GMT -5
All I'll say is this...
As someone pointed out, this is what they have chosen to do in their marriage. That's their business. I would NEVER agree to this with my husband. I do consider adultery a sin, but that is only part of my objection.
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 14:18:10 GMT -5
LMAO...I hope ya been eating right! Not under the law so I'm straight. ;D
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Jul 15, 2008 14:18:13 GMT -5
My boyfriend and I talked about this over lunch lol. Made for interesting convo.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 14:21:34 GMT -5
I'm just surpised at the close mindedness... i'm not saying you all have to agree with it, but at least be able to objectively understand other viewpoints... after all we are college educated individuals.. I've said I understand where people are coming from but I don't agree which is my right. College education has nothing to do with believing what you believe. I can see all day where someone is coming from but still disagree. Since we are playing devil's advocate where do you stand on this Reign? Do you think it would be acceptable for you and your wife to subscribe to the Will and Jada Smith method of marriage? ;D I'm not going to speak on anything I haven't been through .. you are a married man so I can respect your opinion.. but I know how fidelity has slipped in my relationships
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Post by Cambist on Jul 15, 2008 14:21:41 GMT -5
Same here.
Would this work with me? No. I'll just cheat the regular way, thank you.
This is how they choose to live their lives. They don't judge you or try and sell you on their lifestyle. It's their choice and they choose it.
You don't have to and obviously haven't. That's fine.
We can absolutely agree to disagree -as we should.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 14:22:45 GMT -5
My boyfriend and I talked about this over lunch lol. Made for interesting convo. not trying to be all up in your business.. but give us synopsis.
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 14:23:42 GMT -5
I've said I understand where people are coming from but I don't agree which is my right. College education has nothing to do with believing what you believe. I can see all day where someone is coming from but still disagree. Since we are playing devil's advocate where do you stand on this Reign? Do you think it would be acceptable for you and your wife to subscribe to the Will and Jada Smith method of marriage? ;D I'm not going to speak on anything I haven't been through .. you are a married man so I can respect your opinion.. but I know how fidelity has slipped in my relationships Way to sidestep that e-lb. You are such a e-pot stirrer. LOL
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jul 15, 2008 14:23:49 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOO at Damie, lol But this stuff about them being swingers has been talked about for years. As far as role model relationships go I'd prefer the couple who makes it work and is upfront about stuff over the one that acts like they are perfect and behind closed doors he's slapping her around or they are arguing every night. On the flip side, Will and Jada could also be slapping each other around and arguing every night, and just publicly acting like their open marriage is working perfectly. We're assuming they aren't having the same problems that "closed" marriages are having after 10 years. I'd bet they are. And I totally agree. I was thinking the same thing while reading someone other post (maybe Search's post). We are human and have emotions and all of that and can't help but to be jealous and envious and all of that of someone else for whatever reason. Hell I'm jealous of the chick that wears a size 9 shoe because they always have her size in the store, lol. While them being swingers may not totally prevent the feelings of jealousy, hurt, anger, etc it may not bring in all the other stuff that comes with being cheated on and lied to. Because when you find out someone cheated it's not just the fact that they slept with someone else, it's that they lied about it, spent money and time on someone else and lied about it, and on top of that you start second guessing everything else they've said or done.
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