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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:34:38 GMT -5
^^ Gotta Point... if their not a christian then their extramartial activities are not view as sins.. By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL Amen.^ |
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:36:22 GMT -5
Cam I feel what you are saying and I am a proponent of doing what works to a point. While it works for them I can't really cosign it as a way to go but I'm biased because I don't believe God intended marriage to work that way. They can put on the happy face and maybe it really does work for them but I find it hard to believe they are able to do this with no issues. We as humans are not wired that way. Jealousy, mistrust pride and ego always come into play. At some point in time it will rear its ugly head n matter what agreement they have. All it takes is for Jada to get up in years and gravity to run its course and she gets self conscious when will is bagging chicks half her age because she can't hang no more or is hanging in all the wrong places. It seems good on the surface but this is some fraggle knackle BS. Marriage is work and there is no right answer but I will bet money that this aint the right one.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:37:07 GMT -5
By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL Amen.^ But if THEY GOD aint YOUR GOD.. then your claims of sin don't mean anything to them |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:37:17 GMT -5
CAM.... WE ARE >>>>HERE<<<<< <~Married 11 years...nothing to sneeze at. TRUST ME! These unyielding thought processes are one the most dangerous aspects to Socialization  "Berger expresses that culture, which is learned through socialization is “not a freedom but rather a constraint.” He views society as a prison to the members who are trapped by it’s cultural demands and expectations. Yet for some it is easy to bear because we desire acceptance and belonging, therefore we want to obey the rules and we accept the roles society has imposed upon us." We wonder why humans take SO long to change, even when the evidence is right in their faces. Has it ever occured that the people who DO stay together and NEVER EVER EVER cheat are really the OUTLIERS of society...yet we are making them the norm? |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:37:44 GMT -5
Your my first exalt, Search.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jul 15, 2008 13:38:53 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOO at Damie, lol
But this stuff about them being swingers has been talked about for years.
As far as role model relationships go I'd prefer the couple who makes it work and is upfront about stuff over the one that acts like they are perfect and behind closed doors he's slapping her around or they are arguing every night.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 13:39:17 GMT -5
CAM.... WE ARE >>>>HERE<<<<< <~Married 11 years...nothing to sneeze at. TRUST ME! These unyielding thought processes are one the most dangerous aspects to Socialization "Berger expresses that culture, which is learned through socialization is “not a freedom but rather a constraint.” He views society as a prison to the members who are trapped by it’s cultural demands and expectations. Yet for some it is easy to bear because we desire acceptance and belonging, therefore we want to obey the rules and we accept the roles society has imposed upon us." We wonder why humans take SO long to change, even when the evidence is right in their faces. Has it ever occured that the people who DO stay together and NEVER EVER EVER cheat are really the OUTLIERS of society...yet we are making them the norm? |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:39:18 GMT -5
^^ Gotta Point... if their not a christian then their extramartial activities are not view as sins.. By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL Are Muslims and Jews also bound by Christian Laws?? |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:41:31 GMT -5
By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL Are Muslims and Jews also bound by Christian Laws?? ^^^^^ e x a c t l y .. |
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Post by Southie on Jul 15, 2008 13:42:10 GMT -5
So do we continue to look at Will and Jada as a strong black couple?? (interested in the responses) Yes. It apppears as though they are very happy with their arrangment. I guess they look at at their love going beyond just the physical. I guess their only concern is if they become emotionall involved with their "other" partners. (Again this is speculation) |
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:42:37 GMT -5
By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL But if I don't believe in Hell then I tell you, "You invented Hell...you go there." I can dig that Cam but some people believed the world was flat and laughed at any assertion to the contrary. How did that theory work out. They may not believe it but it doesn't mean its doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:43:04 GMT -5
jews, muslim, whatever.
I can only view things through christian tinted glasses.
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 15, 2008 13:43:30 GMT -5
Othodox Jews do not accept Jesus as Christ, the savior of the world. The do believe in the writings of the Old Testament and adultery was forbidden in the Old Testament.
Muslims believe in the writings of the Quran. I know very little about its teachings.
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Post by coldfront06 on Jul 15, 2008 13:43:35 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOO at Damie, lol But this stuff about them being swingers has been talked about for years. As far as role model relationships go I'd prefer the couple who makes it work and is upfront about stuff over the one that acts like they are perfect and behind closed doors he's slapping her around or they are arguing every night. On the flip side, Will and Jada could also be slapping each other around and arguing every night, and just publicly acting like their open marriage is working perfectly. We're assuming they aren't having the same problems that "closed" marriages are having after 10 years. I'd bet they are. |
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:43:47 GMT -5
But if THEY GOD aint YOUR GOD.. then your claims of sin don't mean anything to them Oh I understand that but read what I said again. In short what I am saying is whether you claim him or not God is God of all. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 13:43:54 GMT -5
Wow - did this really just turn into a religious debate?
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:44:06 GMT -5
<~wonders who Outtie is?
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:44:38 GMT -5
well if you can't see the overall view of this arguement then how can you effectively debate it...
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Post by No Screen Name on Jul 15, 2008 13:44:41 GMT -5
Regarding Ossie and Ruby--they TRIED IT, and they ended the "open" arrangement a few years into their marriage. They said it did NOT work.
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:44:55 GMT -5
Your my first exalt, Search. Thanks.  |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 15, 2008 13:46:48 GMT -5
Detour!
Isn't all sin the same? So those of you throwing the Sin aspect into this have never worked on Sunday, lied, or envied!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Y'all being MIGHTY judgmental up in here! Will and Jada do what works for them and the final judgement on all of us is God's.
I ain't buying it!
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:46:55 GMT -5
But if THEY GOD aint YOUR GOD.. then your claims of sin don't mean anything to them Oh I understand that but read what I said again. In short what I am saying is whether you claim him or not God is God of all. So your bible says... but there are other holy books that state other wise... again not condoning actions or beliefs here.. just trying to neutralize the conversation |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:47:53 GMT -5
Wow - did this really just turn into a religious debate? anytime morals come into play the bible is never far behind... |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jul 15, 2008 13:49:16 GMT -5
well if you can't see the overall view of this arguement then how can you effectively debate it... My goodness Reign you love to debate/agrue with me it seems. I just don't believe in dipping in and out of marriage. My background, personality, and Religion just can not accept it. You've seen my other post on similar topics About pre-martial sex sex before your wedding day all that. I hear what you saying but I don't think its right. I will not be swayed Can we agree to disagree? |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:49:20 GMT -5
Detour! Isn't all sin the same? So those of you throwing the Sin aspect into this have never worked on Sunday, lied, or envied!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Y'all being MIGHTY judgmental up in here! Will and Jada do what works for them and the final judgement on all of us is God's. I ain't buying it! LOL!! I dont know why this was funny to me.. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:49:35 GMT -5
But if THEY GOD aint YOUR GOD.. then your claims of sin don't mean anything to them Oh I understand that but read what I said again. In short what I am saying is whether you claim him or not God is God of all. PLEASE DON'T do that. I'm serious. That is SO ethnocentric. EVERY religion feels that way. Damie<~~~~~I BEGGED Glam NOT to go there. They aren't even Christian!  King Solomon<~~~~dat's all I'm sayin on this. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 15, 2008 13:49:39 GMT -5
But more than just the bible has been invoked here Reign
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jul 15, 2008 13:50:05 GMT -5
well if you can't see the overall view of this arguement then how can you effectively debate it... My goodness Reign you love to debate/agrue with me it seems. I just don't believe in dipping in and out of marriage. My background, personality, and Religion just can not accept it. You've seen my other post on similar topics About pre-martial sex sex before your wedding day all that. I hear what you saying but I don't think its right. I will not be swayed Can we agree to disagree? I love you Glam  and actually this is our FIRST debate/arguement |
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Post by Search1906 on Jul 15, 2008 13:50:16 GMT -5
By who Reign? Sin is sin. Just because WE don't view it as such doesn't make it any less SIN. GOD is the judge of what constitutes sin and I think he was pretty clear on the adultery issue. LOL Are Muslims and Jews also bound by Christian Laws?? First there aren't Christian Laws....but that is a discussion for another day. My belief and assertion as a follower of Christ is that just because someone doesn't acknowlege God doesn't make them exempt from judgement. Example: Wesley Snipes didn't pay his taxes why because he believed them to be unconstitutional and didn't pay because he felt he wasn't required to. Did that stop the IRS from coming at him to get that guap and give him jail time...NOPE!!. He has to pay and will probably go to jail despite his belief that they could not require him to pay taxes. So no matter his belief he was subject to the consequences of his actions even though he didn't think they had authority. Capice? |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 15, 2008 13:50:45 GMT -5
Detour! Isn't all sin the same? So those of you throwing the Sin aspect into this have never worked on Sunday, lied, or envied!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Y'all being MIGHTY judgmental up in here! Will and Jada do what works for them and the final judgement on all of us is God's. I ain't buying it! By the powers vested in me...EXALT! |
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and actually this is our FIRST debate/arguement