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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 17, 2008 10:05:53 GMT -5
let's be clear: I agree with Priss in that you vote for a person based upon the issues that impact you and what they PLAN to do for consituents. HOWEVER, if this same candidate demonstrates that they cannot do a good job while in office AAAAAAAND, after bearing witness to his demonstration of not doing a good job, you choose to RE-ELECT THEM...........................you're just as intellectually challenged as your candidate. Period. To see a person do a poor job; know a person has done a poor job and RE-ELECT them makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. WHAT.......does that say about you, as a voter??? Ok, I can agree with that. But did he really win the second time? Iono....lol |
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 10:09:58 GMT -5
let's be clear: I agree with Priss in that you vote for a person based upon the issues that impact you and what they PLAN to do for consituents. HOWEVER, if this same candidate demonstrates that they cannot do a good job while in office AAAAAAAND, after bearing witness to his demonstration of not doing a good job, you choose to RE-ELECT THEM...........................you're just as intellectually challenged as your candidate. Period. To see a person do a poor job; know a person has done a poor job and RE-ELECT them makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. WHAT.......does that say about you, as a voter??? Ok, I can agree with that. But did he really win the second time? Iono....lol the nigga still in the white house, ain't he? Still got the keys...and he needs to be calling U-haul to arrange a truck to GET HIS shit(get all that shit to nigga! get yo shit up out the basement and the atic!)come January! |
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Jun 17, 2008 10:11:04 GMT -5
Shoot...he didn't REALLY win the first time!  let's be clear: I agree with Priss in that you vote for a person based upon the issues that impact you and what they PLAN to do for consituents. HOWEVER, if this same candidate demonstrates that they cannot do a good job while in office AAAAAAAND, after bearing witness to his demonstration of not doing a good job, you choose to RE-ELECT THEM...........................you're just as intellectually challenged as your candidate. Period. To see a person do a poor job; know a person has done a poor job and RE-ELECT them makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. WHAT.......does that say about you, as a voter??? Ok, I can agree with that. But did he really win the second time? Iono....lol |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 17, 2008 10:16:13 GMT -5
Ok, I can agree with that. But did he really win the second time? Iono....lol the nigga still in the white house, ain't he? Still got the keys...and he needs to be calling U-haul to arrange a truck to GET HIS shit(get all that shit to nigga! get yo shit up out the basement and the atic!)come January! ROFLMAO! Not he got the keys!!! LOL! |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 11:44:09 GMT -5
Aces,
All I can really say is I feel your pain dude. You and I view this situation the same. We are looking at a bigger picture - and when you look at it that way it is difficult to understand any hesitation or trepidation by any black person on this matter.
It's like watching one group of people "rail" at being told who they should support, while the other group wonders in disbelief how you could do any reasonable analysis and not have already come to the same conclusion.
I feel your pain Aces. I really do. Cause in my estimation, it doesn't matter if you take a micro or macro perspective - voting for Obama is really a no-brainer. (Note: I didn't say voting for a black candidate, I said voting for Obama)
If you look at it from a micro perspective, on all the issues that matter McCain is out of synch. If taxes is the thing that gets you up in the morning, Obama wants a middle class tax cut, McCain wants to make the Bush tax cuts (the ones that disproportionately benefitted the rich) permanent. Look at the charts and read the analysis on what this does for tax revenue.
www.cbpp.org/1-30-06tax2.htm
If foreign policy is your thing, McCain is already committed to an indefinite, costly, and ultimately unuseful occupation of Iraq. There is no military solution available to the U.S. at this point. It is an issue of governance and diplomacy amongst Shia, Sunni, and Kurd that must be worked out - our presence or departure does not change the prejudices that existed between these people long before we came. Any expert could tell you that. McCain has on several occasions disparaged the need for the U.S. to talk to it's enemies - as though he didn't witness the Bush regime's debacle when they refused to talk to "North Korea". Not talking to them made the problem worse and ultimately the U.S. had to come back to the table of diplomacy, only in a much weaker posture for having failed at "hard ball" tactics. The choice on this one is easy. We know the approach that McCain faovrs doesn't work - we have a concrete example from the last regime. So in terms of who you would favor as a candidate, what is there to think about?
www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2008/04/26/bush_gets_real_on_north_korea/
If energy policy is your thing, you have already seen how the economists and experts have chided McCain's gas tax holiday. Few of his proposals come anywhere close to Baracks plans on funding alternative fuels and creating jobs out of creating new fuel efficient cars to curb our oil dependency. In fact McCain is counting more on the "free market" to spur conservation. What does that mean to some? That he's counting on high prices to drive down demand and subsequently prices. This is the "do nothing" option that suggests the market will correct itself even while speculators continue to drive the price of a barrel of oil higher each day. Free market is part of the problem if you ask me.
money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/economy/candidates_energy/index.htm?postversion=2008060913
If you were REALLY interested in the issues and NOT just talking points you would have already seen that while both Obama and McCain talk about reforming Washington, it's McCain that leaves out specifics and Barack that goes into details about what he would do. It's Barack that would ban people in his administration from working on contracts related to their former employer for at least 2 years. It's Barack that will ban anyone who leaves his administration from returning to lobby that same administration. There is NO equivalent committment from the McCain camp. I know this because I HAVE checked. And you don't have to take my word for it. See for yourself who is talking specifics and who is spouting rhetoric.
www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/cb15a056-ac87-485d-a64d-82989bdc948c.htm
www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/
Now that's just a smattering of issues - there are LOTS more and in very FEW of them does Barack come out on the losing end. Notice I haven't even mentioned that he was black in any of this analysis. If you go strictly by the issues and proposed solutions Barack wins easily. And this is just the micro view. So if you are an issues (plural) voter what is there to think about?
If you want to consider his race, and the macro view - it becomes even easier to see why he should get your vote. Consider Boxing legend, Jack Johnson, or Screen Legend, Hattie McDaniel. Consider track great Jesse Owens or Baseball Legend Jackie Robinson. Consider the legal giant Thurgood Marshall. I can name a virtual pantheon of black leaders and trailblazers about whom even you educated negros couldn't name 5 things about other than their most famous accomplishment.
Likely no one knows nor cares what Sojourner Truth did to affect local economies of her time. No one likely knows nor cares how energy prices varied during the time of Jackie Robinson. Few people in the U.S. can tell you what the prevailing foreign policy was during the time of Hattie McDaniel with out going to Google or Wikipedia. Fewer still know what her take on foreign policy was - But what I can tell you is that each person I have named (as well as numerous names I have not) have helped to shape the black experience , outlook, and identity not just for black people - but for all Americans.
Jack Johnson didn't just merely defeat his white counterparts in boxing - he destroyed an entire ideology of white superiority. It didn't just have implications for black folks but all Americans. He was a paradigm shift that FORCED people to acknowledge that their belief in their superiority was falsehood. Nearly 100 years later do we know or even CARE what his politics where in the grand scheme of things? How silly would we look saying we didn't HAVE to support him just because he was black when you look at the grand scheme of things?
And there can be no doubt that Halle Berry and Denzel Washington stand on the shoulders of that giant Hattie McDaniel. There can be no doubt that the Ryan Howards of today absolutely stand on the shoulders of giants like Jackie Robinson. But transport us back into their time, and how silly do we look making the core issue of the day - one about us not having to support them just because they were black. How myopic is that when you look at the big picture?
And just as Jesse Jackson stood on the shoulders of Shirely Chisolm in 84 and 88, Barack stands on their shoulders now in 2008. 50 years from now when we're bouncing our grand kids on our laps - will you even care if Barack got gas back down to $4 a gallon? 100 years from now will the history books even mention that?
People - the Presidency of the United Staes is the last safe haven of the ever-shrinking population of insecure white men clinging to ideas of racial superiority. It's the only club they still have to themselves. We have been governors, senators, congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Ambassador, Movie Stars, Talk show hosts, media conglomerates, publishing magnates, real estate moguls... everything except President of the United States. An honest assessment says that racism will not end with Barack becoming President, but it will signal that it's end is on the way. It will change how the next generation of black people view themselves, and how other Americans view them as well. And it will begin to drive that final stake into the heart of "Manifest Destiny". Am I really going to vascillate on whether or not to vote for Barack with all this weighing in the balance, because he wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax and I'm afraid I'm not going to get the a larger return on my investements this year? Am I REALLY going to look that narrowly?
In my opinion, from a macro perspective and a micro perspective there are few compelling arguments to suggest you should NOT vote for Barack. So it is almost MADDENING to me to listen to intelligent people ponder with either small or great uncertainty, something that appears to be obvious from every discernible vantage point such to be beyond doubt.
I recognize any and everyone's right ultimately not to support Barack despite the ever growing moutain of reason, logic, and analysis that suggests you should. I acknowledge that they can pull the lever for whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Still, hearing people say:
"I don't have to support Barack if I don't want to"
Sounds no different to me than
"I don't have to cach a $20 million dollar check if I don't want to".
It is the most assinine thing I have ever heard and moreover I reserve the right to question what wisdom and logic supports such a notion. HE is the best candidate right now even if he WASN'T black. If we subtract all the historical implications (thus removing the macro view) the micro view analysis says Barack is the choice - hands down. But maybe it's just me. Here ends my unpopular opinion.
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 17, 2008 11:56:09 GMT -5
i aint reading all of that.
I surmise that it says "Barack for President"?
lol
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Post by 123Diva on Jun 17, 2008 11:57:16 GMT -5
Damie's really back!
*WAVES*
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 12:09:37 GMT -5
all I can say is......right on!
**prints out Damie's rant to share with his wife**
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 13:42:18 GMT -5
all I can say is......right on! **prints out Damie's rant to share with his wife**
*Mushes Priss in the face*
Aces...
I think you and I might be seeing this differently from some because of our exposure to other "unfiltered" opinions elsewhere. If they could hear and see the vitriol that you and I have seen (and how sincerely the ignorance is taken for truth) they might understand the urgency that they read in our posts. |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 17, 2008 13:55:58 GMT -5
I know one thang...you better kept yo' handz out my face! |
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 14:03:02 GMT -5
all I can say is......right on! **prints out Damie's rant to share with his wife**
*Mushes Priss in the face*
Aces...
I think you and I might be seeing this differently from some because of our exposure to other "unfiltered" opinions elsewhere. If they could hear and see the vitriol that you and I have seen (and how sincerely the ignorance is taken for truth) they might understand the urgency that they read in our posts.lol...I count the number of times that word is said when I watch CNN. THat's the buzz word for this political season. And I agree. if folks heard/read the stuff that I've personally read on a few political message boards, shock would be a mild emotion that would be felt. There are folks out there who REALLY believe and SAY some trul ingnorant shit. And will continue to say it AFTER being presented with the FACTS that REFUTE their position. It's crazy! |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 14:06:44 GMT -5
*Gives a shout out to 123 Diva*
*Mushes Priss in the face*
Aces...
I think you and I might be seeing this differently from some because of our exposure to other "unfiltered" opinions elsewhere. If they could hear and see the vitriol that you and I have seen (and how sincerely the ignorance is taken for truth) they might understand the urgency that they read in our posts. lol...I count the number of times that word is said when I watch CNN. THat's the buzz word for this political season. And I agree. if folks heard/read the stuff that I've personally read on a few political message boards, shock would be a mild emotion that would be felt. There are folks out there who REALLY believe and SAY some trul ingnorant shit. And will continue to say it AFTER being presented with the FACTS that REFUTE their position. It's crazy!
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 14:15:05 GMT -5
lol...I count the number of times that word is said when I watch CNN. THat's the buzz word for this political season. And I agree. if folks heard/read the stuff that I've personally read on a few political message boards, shock would be a mild emotion that would be felt. There are folks out there who REALLY believe and SAY some trul ingnorant shit. And will continue to say it AFTER being presented with the FACTS that REFUTE their position. It's crazy!
and THAT is the absolute scary part! That my fate and the fate of my kids vis a vis US leadership and policy can come down to the vote of the dull and ignorant. It almost seems unfair.... |
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Post by No Screen Name on Jun 17, 2008 14:18:17 GMT -5
What's ALSO funny is this: what has happened with gay marriage since Bush has been in office? What has happened with abortions? Has any of this been changed? In fact, gay marriage is now LEGAL in several states. Has the world come to an end? Did the sky fall?
With the way the economy is going, people have pretty much lost interest in the whole gay marriage thing--even with the situation in CA.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 14:20:41 GMT -5
And they get to vote too. That's what makes it scary. Strength through ignorance should be their motto.
and THAT is the absolute scary part! That my fate and the fate of my kids vis a vis US leadership and policy can come down to the vote of the dull and ignorant. It almost seems unfair.... |
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 14:22:49 GMT -5
that's cuz MONEY TALKS!!!! IF the money (economy) ain't right, nothing else matters! When people start to feel it in their pockets, all of these secondary issues are just that....secondary.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 14:39:21 GMT -5
that's cuz MONEY TALKS!!!! IF the money (economy) ain't right, nothing else matters! When people start to feel it in their pockets, all of these secondary issues are just that....secondary. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 17, 2008 14:39:46 GMT -5
What's ALSO funny is this: what has happened with gay marriage since Bush has been in office? What has happened with abortions? Has any of this been changed? In fact, gay marriage is now LEGAL in several states. Has the world come to an end? Did the sky fall? With the way the economy is going, people have pretty much lost interest in the whole gay marriage thing--even with the situation in CA. |
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Post by ACES on Jun 17, 2008 14:54:48 GMT -5
that's cuz MONEY TALKS!!!! IF the money (economy) ain't right, nothing else matters! When people start to feel it in their pockets, all of these secondary issues are just that....secondary. very true! LMAO @ gas companies being "victims" |
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Jun 20, 2008 8:59:45 GMT -5
Totally off topic, but I hope Obama chooses Edwards as his VP. Something about them together makes sense!
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Post by B Strugg on Jun 22, 2008 22:42:14 GMT -5
I just find it extremely difficult to wrap my mind around the idea that black folk who choose not to support Obama aren't, at best, mildly conflicted and at worst, culturaly torn by their decsion. And if they're neither, I question just how deep their knowledge of "the struggle" runs and how deep their love is for black folk. I'll be honest, I like Obama. But some days I wonder is what the country really needs at this point and time. This is not a declaration for McCain, Hillary, or anyone else. I just question whether the timing is right. The country (IMO) is a rapid downward spiral, and Obama stands to captain the ship on its way down. I don't know if I want that on his shoulders, or better yet on the shoulders of black folks. I question what does Black America think its going to get from America with Obama at the helm. I am in full support of Obama, so don't let a few question regarding the man become a Bigs doesn't support Obama. I agree with you and your statement regarding Obama being the captain of a sinking ship. I think it's awesome that he's come so far....but I don't believe Hillary or McCain really wanted/ want the presidency. They are going to let him in pretty much so the world can watch him fail (nothing done with him at fault) and when shit hits rock bottom, they're going to indirectly give the (This is why a black man can't run our country) speech. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jun 22, 2008 23:09:09 GMT -5
Aces,
All I can really say is I feel your pain dude. You and I view this situation the same. We are looking at a bigger picture - and when you look at it that way it is difficult to understand any hesitation or trepidation by any black person on this matter.
It's like watching one group of people "rail" at being told who they should support, while the other group wonders in disbelief how you could do any reasonable analysis and not have already come to the same conclusion.
I feel your pain Aces. I really do. Cause in my estimation, it doesn't matter if you take a micro or macro perspective - voting for Obama is really a no-brainer. (Note: I didn't say voting for a black candidate, I said voting for Obama)
If you look at it from a micro perspective, on all the issues that matter McCain is out of synch. If taxes is the thing that gets you up in the morning, Obama wants a middle class tax cut, McCain wants to make the Bush tax cuts (the ones that disproportionately benefitted the rich) permanent. Look at the charts and read the analysis on what this does for tax revenue.
www.cbpp.org/1-30-06tax2.htm
If foreign policy is your thing, McCain is already committed to an indefinite, costly, and ultimately unuseful occupation of Iraq. There is no military solution available to the U.S. at this point. It is an issue of governance and diplomacy amongst Shia, Sunni, and Kurd that must be worked out - our presence or departure does not change the prejudices that existed between these people long before we came. Any expert could tell you that. McCain has on several occasions disparaged the need for the U.S. to talk to it's enemies - as though he didn't witness the Bush regime's debacle when they refused to talk to "North Korea". Not talking to them made the problem worse and ultimately the U.S. had to come back to the table of diplomacy, only in a much weaker posture for having failed at "hard ball" tactics. The choice on this one is easy. We know the approach that McCain faovrs doesn't work - we have a concrete example from the last regime. So in terms of who you would favor as a candidate, what is there to think about?
www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2008/04/26/bush_gets_real_on_north_korea/
If energy policy is your thing, you have already seen how the economists and experts have chided McCain's gas tax holiday. Few of his proposals come anywhere close to Baracks plans on funding alternative fuels and creating jobs out of creating new fuel efficient cars to curb our oil dependency. In fact McCain is counting more on the "free market" to spur conservation. What does that mean to some? That he's counting on high prices to drive down demand and subsequently prices. This is the "do nothing" option that suggests the market will correct itself even while speculators continue to drive the price of a barrel of oil higher each day. Free market is part of the problem if you ask me.
money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/economy/candidates_energy/index.htm?postversion=2008060913
If you were REALLY interested in the issues and NOT just talking points you would have already seen that while both Obama and McCain talk about reforming Washington, it's McCain that leaves out specifics and Barack that goes into details about what he would do. It's Barack that would ban people in his administration from working on contracts related to their former employer for at least 2 years. It's Barack that will ban anyone who leaves his administration from returning to lobby that same administration. There is NO equivalent committment from the McCain camp. I know this because I HAVE checked. And you don't have to take my word for it. See for yourself who is talking specifics and who is spouting rhetoric.
www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/cb15a056-ac87-485d-a64d-82989bdc948c.htm
www.barackobama.com/issues/ethics/
Now that's just a smattering of issues - there are LOTS more and in very FEW of them does Barack come out on the losing end. Notice I haven't even mentioned that he was black in any of this analysis. If you go strictly by the issues and proposed solutions Barack wins easily. And this is just the micro view. So if you are an issues (plural) voter what is there to think about?
If you want to consider his race, and the macro view - it becomes even easier to see why he should get your vote. Consider Boxing legend, Jack Johnson, or Screen Legend, Hattie McDaniel. Consider track great Jesse Owens or Baseball Legend Jackie Robinson. Consider the legal giant Thurgood Marshall. I can name a virtual pantheon of black leaders and trailblazers about whom even you educated negros couldn't name 5 things about other than their most famous accomplishment.
Likely no one knows nor cares what Sojourner Truth did to affect local economies of her time. No one likely knows nor cares how energy prices varied during the time of Jackie Robinson. Few people in the U.S. can tell you what the prevailing foreign policy was during the time of Hattie McDaniel with out going to Google or Wikipedia. Fewer still know what her take on foreign policy was - But what I can tell you is that each person I have named (as well as numerous names I have not) have helped to shape the black experience , outlook, and identity not just for black people - but for all Americans.
Jack Johnson didn't just merely defeat his white counterparts in boxing - he destroyed an entire ideology of white superiority. It didn't just have implications for black folks but all Americans. He was a paradigm shift that FORCED people to acknowledge that their belief in their superiority was falsehood. Nearly 100 years later do we know or even CARE what his politics where in the grand scheme of things? How silly would we look saying we didn't HAVE to support him just because he was black when you look at the grand scheme of things?
And there can be no doubt that Halle Berry and Denzel Washington stand on the shoulders of that giant Hattie McDaniel. There can be no doubt that the Ryan Howards of today absolutely stand on the shoulders of giants like Jackie Robinson. But transport us back into their time, and how silly do we look making the core issue of the day - one about us not having to support them just because they were black. How myopic is that when you look at the big picture?
And just as Jesse Jackson stood on the shoulders of Shirely Chisolm in 84 and 88, Barack stands on their shoulders now in 2008. 50 years from now when we're bouncing our grand kids on our laps - will you even care if Barack got gas back down to $4 a gallon? 100 years from now will the history books even mention that?
People - the Presidency of the United Staes is the last safe haven of the ever-shrinking population of insecure white men clinging to ideas of racial superiority. It's the only club they still have to themselves. We have been governors, senators, congressmen, Supreme Court Justices, Ambassador, Movie Stars, Talk show hosts, media conglomerates, publishing magnates, real estate moguls... everything except President of the United States. An honest assessment says that racism will not end with Barack becoming President, but it will signal that it's end is on the way. It will change how the next generation of black people view themselves, and how other Americans view them as well. And it will begin to drive that final stake into the heart of "Manifest Destiny". Am I really going to vascillate on whether or not to vote for Barack with all this weighing in the balance, because he wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax and I'm afraid I'm not going to get the a larger return on my investements this year? Am I REALLY going to look that narrowly?
In my opinion, from a macro perspective and a micro perspective there are few compelling arguments to suggest you should NOT vote for Barack. So it is almost MADDENING to me to listen to intelligent people ponder with either small or great uncertainty, something that appears to be obvious from every discernible vantage point such to be beyond doubt.
I recognize any and everyone's right ultimately not to support Barack despite the ever growing moutain of reason, logic, and analysis that suggests you should. I acknowledge that they can pull the lever for whoever they want for whatever reason they want. Still, hearing people say:
"I don't have to support Barack if I don't want to"
Sounds no different to me than
"I don't have to cach a $20 million dollar check if I don't want to".
It is the most assinine thing I have ever heard and moreover I reserve the right to question what wisdom and logic supports such a notion. HE is the best candidate right now even if he WASN'T black. If we subtract all the historical implications (thus removing the macro view) the micro view analysis says Barack is the choice - hands down. But maybe it's just me. Here ends my unpopular opinion. **slides arrow up to right corner, clicks arrow next to printer icon...highlights and clicks print** ;D IMPRESSIVE SIR! Random I know, may I ask what was/is your major? |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 23, 2008 8:22:23 GMT -5
My major? LOL...
Yeah get this... my major was Engineering. Crazy eh?
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Post by ACES on Jun 23, 2008 8:32:14 GMT -5
@ Struggle....you HONESTLY believe that a Clinton doesn't want the presidency?? Really?!?
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Post by B Strugg on Jun 23, 2008 15:12:31 GMT -5
@ Struggle....you HONESTLY believe that a Clinton doesn't want the presidency?? Really?!? As bad as things are...no I don't believe she REALLY WANTED it...White people....I won't say all...but at least the elitists are some of the sneakiest folks, especially when it comes to politics....so we really don't what they're sneaky triflin asses are plotting......Look how badly the economy has crumbled since Obama has become the Democratic Candidate...food prices have skyrocketed...gas is effed up....it's exactly what they wanted to happen to help continue to prove that a black man isn't equipped to run our country....... But I am 100% sure that Obama can and will prove them all wrong.....he has my vote. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jun 23, 2008 15:28:03 GMT -5
My major? LOL...
Yeah get this... my major was Engineering. Crazy eh? *sigh* 6'4"--Intelligent--Witty--Charming *sigh* ;D |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 23, 2008 16:20:19 GMT -5
@ Struggle....you HONESTLY believe that a Clinton doesn't want the presidency?? Really?!? As bad as things are...no I don't believe she REALLY WANTED it...White people....I won't say all...but at least the elitists are some of the sneakiest folks, especially when it comes to politics....so we really don't what they're sneaky triflin asses are plotting......Look how badly the economy has crumbled since Obama has become the Democratic Candidate...food prices have skyrocketed...gas is effed up....it's exactly what they wanted to happen to help continue to prove that a black man isn't equipped to run our country....... But I am 100% sure that Obama can and will prove them all wrong.....he has my vote.
BS I don't mean no harm but I cannot disagree with you more. First of all, the only thing that a politician with power wants is MORE power (and to some degree peer worship). There was not a politician in the field - spending the kind of money that they were spending to PRETEND like they wanted to be President when really they were secretly trying to "trick" Obama into seeking the President. That is conpiracy theory grade nonsense.
The goal (for the more jaded politician and/or capitialist) is to trade money for power later, or power for money later. There is rarely deviance from this model. Under Bush Pharmaceutical companies got the bill they wanted. Oil companies got tax breaks and a built in excuse to gouge the consumer. Insurance companies got the bankruptcy reform that they wanted. Energy companies basically set the energy policy for the Bush administration (recall the closed door meetings with Cheney) and let's not forget that Halliburton got those contracts in Iraq. Everyone who was with George Bush got filthy rich over the last 8 years. Even his own buddies. Remember the big scare about Bird Flu? Haven't heard much about it lately but guess who owned stock in a company that supposedly had medicine that could lessen the severity of that flu.
www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp
These things are not by accident, and people who are accustomed to having both money and power - do not willingly give up either under the guise of trying to stick someone else with the "bag". Cause the truth is, most of what is going bad, has gone bad under Bush and is attributed to Bush. And even if it wasn't - they would just lie and say it was.
The next President has nowhere to go but up, and a scapegoat he can blame for all that's wrong. They have far better other ways to show that black men aren't equipped to run the country. For example: they could broadcast BET on standard cable and that'd pretty much do the trick. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jun 23, 2008 16:35:52 GMT -5
@ DAMIE
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 23, 2008 16:50:23 GMT -5
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jun 23, 2008 16:52:04 GMT -5
*SMITE* @ Damie  |
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