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Post by sigmamason on Jan 21, 2008 16:59:49 GMT -5
This remark caught me off guard
"Third: I, like yourself am a member of a Naitonal Pan-Hellenic Council Organization and my father (we dont share the same name) is a past Provincial Director of one of your provinces in your Fraternity......"  The ONE consolation I found in THAT particular statement is: IF he is indeed a member of a NPHC organization, he has established that it is NOT Kappa Alpha Psi. HALLELUJAH !!! lol *** Looking around at the OTHER remaining NPHC fraternities of which he MAY be a member ***  Readies Sigma Kill Squad once you get thru...need only to send a universal text message to merc him if he is wearing blu and white. I know, I know...I still haven't spoken bad on someone... |
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 21, 2008 17:13:00 GMT -5
... If everyone would ignore their asses, they would cease to exist.  ... I have learned to pick my battles and this ain't one of them. Whereas, I can empathize with you regarding picking your battles, but I highly disagree with the concept that ignore the problem, and it will simply fade away and/or cease to exist A chronic disease and/or festering wound does not HEAL itself by simply IGNORING it. But, I respect YOUR position to not actively become involved.  |
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Post by Boomerang08 on Jan 21, 2008 17:55:20 GMT -5
Oh really now? LMAO ;D ... If everyone would ignore their asses, they would cease to exist. ... I have learned to pick my battles and this ain't one of them. Whereas, I can empathize with you regarding picking your battles, but I highly disagree with the concept that ignore the problem, and it will simply fade away and/or cease to exist A chronic disease and/or festering wound does not HEAL itself by simply IGNORING it. But, I respect YOUR position to not actively become involved. |
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Post by mrknowitall on Jan 21, 2008 19:15:13 GMT -5
THIS IS IT!!!!
And I thought pictures were bad...to see this madness on video is a travesty!!!
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Post by Robelite on Jan 22, 2008 10:03:32 GMT -5
**seriously** <-----is puzzled <-------doesn't get it <--------glad she doesn't get it You and me both, FOM...you and me both!   |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 22, 2008 10:06:24 GMT -5
Hey Robe! for some reason we've been missing each other on the board!
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Post by Robelite on Jan 22, 2008 10:14:16 GMT -5
What's goin' on, Ms. Fatal?
Yeah, we've been like ships passing in the night. If not for FD giving me the new web address, I wouldn't have known where everybody was.
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Post by ORACLE on Jan 22, 2008 10:42:36 GMT -5
This video is a travesty to the ladies of AKA and all greeks in general. I believe that the NPHC needs to step in as a whole to deal with this.
One of my good friends who is also an AKA sent the video to Barbara McInzie.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 22, 2008 10:47:57 GMT -5
I'm still in awe at the conversation on the previous page. That dude knows he's wrong. What a mess...
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Post by happy1 on Jan 22, 2008 11:15:30 GMT -5
Have they tried to incorporate? Unless they try to incorporate, what actions can be taken?
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 22, 2008 14:25:06 GMT -5
Have they tried to incorporate? Unless they try to incorporate, what actions can be taken? Are you asking: If they have attempted to incorporated the MiAKA groups ?ANSWER: I am not sure. Some of the previously recognized NPHC-auxiliary groups HAVE actually incorporated themselves AFTER all official ties were severed with them; e.g. The Fraternal of Beaux ( formally known as "DELTA-Gents"), The Fraternal Order of Classy Gentlemen ( formally known as "SIGMA-Rhomeos"), and
KRIMSON KOURT INCORPORATED [KKI] ( formally known as "Kappa Sweethearts") However, although MiAKA ( at one point in history)was a locally accepted auxiliary group of AKA, the group we are CURRENTLY discussing is NOT related to the sanctioned MiAKA-group of years past. Related NEWS MEDIA reports: TSU Men Form Underground Sororities (WSMV Nashville newsclip: ) 'Scandalous' pics on the Web anger sorority (KHOU TV News: Wednesday, March 7, 2007) |
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 22, 2008 14:40:01 GMT -5
POINT(s) OF INTEREST: There IS a group of same-sex loving men who previously identified themselves as AKAs and DELTAs ( and possibly ZETA PHI BETA) that re-organized; and actually incorporated themselves as DELTA PHI UPSILON; "the first intercollegiate Greek-letter fraternity established for Gay Men of Color, was founded at Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida on January 15, 1985. ".  If you analyze their COAT-OF-ARMS, you will notice that - in slightly rearranged and altered/combined heraldic elements and colors of DELTA SIGMA THETA and SIGMA GAMMA RHO- it is actually the shield of AKA; but with a smaller-version of the " Torch of Wisdom" than its original depiction in 1985 ( utilized by several of the NPHC sororities); and slightly altered colors of DELTA SIGMA THETA. Additionally, the FIVE STARS above the shield - as well as, the opened-book near the bottom of the shield are associated with similar elements of the ZETA PHI BETA coat-of-arms/shield. SIDENOTE: Similarly, Omicron Epsilon Pi Sorority, Inc. is the nations first and only Greek letter organization that caters, specifically, to the needs of lesbian women with a great emphasis on lesbians of color. |
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Post by happy1 on Jan 22, 2008 14:50:25 GMT -5
@konfucius - I guess thats what none of us understand. I wonder if Gay men group themselves into different catagories. I'm not sure the org you mentioned above would accept those guys from miaka. Just like Alpha Lamda Zeta was started for "aggressive" sisters, they should start their own thing.
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Post by Gee-Are on Jan 22, 2008 15:19:17 GMT -5
The other thing is it seems that these people aren't necessarily concerned about having their own group as much as they want to worship a certain org that won't accept them. Would a group of boys, of whom half want to imitate AKA and the other half want to imitate Delta, really get along? Doesn't seem that their ideals or aims are to serve the community but to prove that they can act just like the women.
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 22, 2008 15:36:59 GMT -5
Hot ass mess, period.
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 22, 2008 15:47:09 GMT -5
The other thing is it seems that these people ... want to worship a certain org that won't accept them. Would a group of boys, of whom half want to imitate AKA and the other half want to imitate Delta, really get along? I am NOT sure if your question was merely rhetorical; or indeed earnest. But, while doing graduate research a few years ago, I interviewed/conversed with several males in these un-officially clandestine groups; and you might be surprised at their alleged devotion to these frarorities (male sororities). Many can remit the histories of AKA, DELTA, and ZETA better than most duly-initiated females in those organizations. As it relates to your statements, ... One of the un-written objectives of the DELTA PHI UPSILON Fraternity (in its conception) was to squash the rivalry among these groups in the BGLT community. Hence, the possible reason for the intermingled colors/symbols of theit heraldic shield.  |
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Post by Gee-Are on Jan 22, 2008 15:54:11 GMT -5
OOOOOOOOOOOk...
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Post by BklynPearl on Jan 22, 2008 19:41:06 GMT -5
"(My great-grandmother pledged in Sp of 1914 @ Alpha Chapter @ Howard U"
I know his great-grandmother is rolling over in her grave.
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 23, 2008 2:12:09 GMT -5
"(My great-grandmother pledged in Sp of 1914 @ Alpha Chapter @ Howard U" I know his great-grandmother is rolling over in her grave. Again, ( based upon certain documentation I have researched and perused), I believe he is LYING. I highly DOUBT that there even WAS an "intake" in Spring 1914 due to the efforts of the sorority (especially, NELLIE QUANDER) to re-group after the events of January 1913 that resulted in the division/separation of certain AKA initiates which established DELTA SIGMA THETA. At any rate, my question is: " With that statement, WAS HE ATTEMPTING TO CLAIM (and enforce) the AKA Legacy-clause/status ??" |
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 23, 2008 9:54:29 GMT -5
Buahahahahahah @ Konfucious and the legacy clause! Soror Pearl, his grandmother is rolling over in her grave, over and over and over! (if she is indeed a member, which I don't think so ) This is just a mess on soooooo many different levels. And that fat walrus, I really need him to get it together and get a life, like seriously. It seems like he might be the ring leader down in Houston because every pic demonstrating this atrocity has him in it. |
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Post by Ms. RedamnDickulous on Jan 23, 2008 10:14:51 GMT -5
Soror AKAD, I would also assert that we have seen all of them before. I am so over them because these are the same kids from that club across the street from the Wendy's, lol. Pathetic comes to mind.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 23, 2008 11:12:01 GMT -5
Personally, I just really, really wish they wouldn't do this. But I can't say I've been personally offended, no. Believe it or not, the bigger issue is that a rogue group is co-opting traditions and symbols from another organization while claiming imaginary ties to it. Sexual identity is secondary (but very important) to this discussion. There is also a double standard here, with rogue female sweethearts not receiving the same venom (due to their perceived heterosexuality).
Where I disagree is the perception that they don't receive the same venom for the same crime as rogue heterosexual aux's. I think the dynamic is different in that, oftentimes with the heterosexual women they are led to believe they have a legitimate affiliation with the group by actual members publically and privately even if the official stance is that they do not.
There are some photos floating on the net right now of women co-op'ing Omega imagery (Goldies, camos, hand signs, etc) but placing them under another organization name - sharing too many similiarities with Omega's 3 letters... and they are NOT held in high regard (to put it mildly) amongst the Bruhz. It's the co-op that's the problem. |
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Post by mos06def on Jan 23, 2008 11:58:15 GMT -5
this is absolutely ridiculous
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Post by BklynPearl on Jan 23, 2008 16:37:17 GMT -5
Soror AKAD, I don't think his grandmama pledged anything either.
@ Konfucious: Beta Chapter was chartered in 1913, and Gamma Chapter was chartered in 1914. The split didn't stop Soror Nellie and the Sorority at all, lol.
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Post by konfucius1911 on Jan 23, 2008 20:34:07 GMT -5
Soror AKAD, I don't think his grandmama pledged anything either. @ Konfucious: Beta Chapter was chartered in 1913, and Gamma Chapter was chartered in 1914. The split didn't stop Soror Nellie and the Sorority at all, lol. I never implied that AKA ceased to operate as an organization; or at least, it was not my intention. Actually, I believe the REVERSE is true. That NELLIE re-doubled her efforts. Hence, the establishment of Beta and Gamma Chapters; as you have cited. my assertion was more directed at the claim that his great-Grandmother was initiated via the ALPHA CHAPTER in 1914. I believe this is a lie which he pulled out of his ass. |
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 24, 2008 10:56:55 GMT -5
Rather it drove them forward ;D Amen, and Amen!  |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Jan 24, 2008 17:14:07 GMT -5
WOW.. for some reason this made it more real..its kinda freaky...
Seeing pics and hearing things are ALOT different from actually seeing it...
<------------ is spoke and now believes that the Attack of Killer MIAKA Robot Clones is well on its way
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Post by happy1 on Jan 25, 2008 4:43:04 GMT -5
I have more respect for them than MIAKA.
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 25, 2008 10:27:23 GMT -5
Wow, interesting. Like Happy said, they get more respect.
I wonder where ol boy got those shoes from?
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Post by Robelite on Jan 25, 2008 10:35:30 GMT -5
. I wonder where ol boy got those shoes from? ====dead==== |
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