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Post by Coldfront06 on Jun 3, 2010 16:32:06 GMT -5
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 3, 2010 16:41:17 GMT -5
In all the scenarios they presented, I don't see how the Big 12 survives. No matter how you slice it, they come out weaker than ever
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Post by Coach on Jun 3, 2010 18:18:36 GMT -5
Money is the death of collegiate athletics. Call me a purist but football conference need no to be over 12 members. These invitations are throwing off the graphical locations of the conferences, which was why they got started in the first first. No way in hell the Pac-10 should be plucking OK n OK State out there. And how the hell they gonna convince A&M and Tech to make that move which is gonna cause them to lose more ground the competition?? But expect to see a domino effect with any conference re-alignment.
This reminds me of the raid the ACC put on the Big East years ago...the Big East is just starting to recover from that raid the ACC did to them. The problem with the Big East though is they have too many basketball members or they probably could have realigned already. IMO, they should revive that and go after Maryland n Boston College (again). But they're not gonna accepted an football only invite. I just knew for sure the Pac-10 were eventually gonna give Boise State and Fresno State a call. Guess they had bigger more expensive plans....
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 4, 2010 7:51:49 GMT -5
wow
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Post by Cambist on Jun 4, 2010 8:47:17 GMT -5
If this happens, then let the break-ups begin!!
I was hoping the SEC would go after Louisville, Miami and/or FL. State.....
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Post by Robelite on Jun 4, 2010 8:57:09 GMT -5
Folks in SEC land are pushing for the conference to go after Texas and Texas A&M. Personally, I'd rather see the SEC add Florida State and Georgia Tech. It gives the existing conference teams in those two states a CONFERENCE arch-rival, and regionally it just makes more sense.
However, the SEC can just about do whatever the hell it wants and the other conferences know that.
More sensibly for the Pac - 10 would be Utah/BYU and yeah, I'd go with Colorado. But OK and OK State...ummm, uhhh, not sure about those. The Big Ten (plus one) is said to be targeting Missouri and Nebraska and possibly Iowa State. I can see MO and NE in the Big 10....or Big Midwest, or Big North or whatever the hell they'll call it if this expansion occurs.
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Post by Coldfront06 on Jun 10, 2010 13:18:44 GMT -5
And so it starts...
Nebraska to Big 10, Colorado to Pac-1o.
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Post by Robelite on Jun 10, 2010 14:04:47 GMT -5
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Post by Alc 06 on Jun 10, 2010 14:56:22 GMT -5
I'm just over here laughing and Lane Kiffin and USC. Serves him right.
And yes, I think the Big 12 as we know it is done. The leftovers are atrocious
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Post by Cambist on Jun 11, 2010 10:04:20 GMT -5
Lane Kiffin is the one laughing....he gets 3 years of CHILLAXIN and no expectations plus, 2 more years of rebuilding and CHECK COLLECTIN!
He's going to get a check and not have to win.
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Post by Coach on Jun 11, 2010 10:37:47 GMT -5
True Cam, but USC and it's booster wont be trying to hear that for long. They're still gonna expect him to draw superior talent.
That's exactly how Dennis Franchione found himself fired from Bama'.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 11, 2010 10:59:03 GMT -5
I kinda agree with Cam... I think this actually gives him more breathing room... but I also agree with Coach... he didn't have that much breathing room to start with - it's USC afterall. And he'll have plenty of scrutiny over his shoulder because of the violations.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 11, 2010 11:35:45 GMT -5
This isn't good for College football what so ever. I can see Missouri and Colorado leaving but the rest need to stay put seriously. So who will be left behind... Kansas, K State, Iowa St, Baylor. So what potential teams could shore up the Big 12?
Arkansas? TCU would a be great one. Houston? damn man fuck it not even enough teams... I don't think they should go to the Pac 10 though.. Thats crazy. You're downgrading big time. The PAC 10 in 2 years will be some chit top to bottom. Nebraska made the right move going to the Big 10 but this Pac-10 chit is for the birds. I personally think the conference sucks and is not even close to the Big 12.
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jun 11, 2010 12:19:29 GMT -5
<-----lives in the heart of Big XII country.
If this raid or breakup occurs this changes the whole landscape of college athletics forever.
My city has hosted numerous Big 8 / Big XII championships dating back to 1950's this could have a devastating economic effect on the city.
It's all about TV Money & Football.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 11, 2010 12:40:54 GMT -5
<-----lives in the heart of Big XII country.
If this raid or breakup occurs this changes the whole landscape of college athletics forever.
My city has hosted numerous Big 8 / Big XII championships dating back to 1950's this could have a devastating economic effect on the city.
It's all about TV Money & Football.
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Post by Coach on Jun 11, 2010 12:47:02 GMT -5
This could be potentially good for the Mountain West thought. They're on the good track to becoming a major conference...they're a few teams away though.
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Post by Coldfront06 on Jun 11, 2010 17:32:54 GMT -5
This could be potentially good for the Mountain West thought. They're on the good track to becoming a major conference...they're a few teams away though. I said the same thing...this can benefit the Mountain West. I could see them getting the Big 12's automatic BCS bid. |
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jun 13, 2010 14:51:47 GMT -5
Where are the Antitrust Laws when you need them. lol
This type of greed isn't good for college sports!
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Post by Cambist on Jun 14, 2010 7:05:52 GMT -5
I have another prediction....
Since the NCAA will be allowing all USC juniors and seniors to leave without penalty, Mitch Mustain will leave and go to the only school in the country that would take him.....Auburn...where he will team back up with his high school coach, Gus Malzhan to play his final season of college football.
I hear he hasn't played because he is a serious douchebag and Pete Carroll didn't want to deal with a primadonna. That assessment is absolutely true.
Also, Texas A&M will join the SEC and stretch the conference in a stupid way (much like the Big East).
Also, Memphis will make a bid to leave Conference USA unless Kansas joins the conference.
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Post by Coach on Jun 14, 2010 21:10:50 GMT -5
So next year who's the Big 12 picking up to replace Colorado and Nebraska...that should be interesting.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 14, 2010 21:44:56 GMT -5
So next year who's the Big 12 picking up to replace Colorado and Nebraska...that should be interesting. I say TCU for sure. I think they should make a push to get them in. Then maybe an Arkansas or even with a stretch just to try an attempt to weaken Bama go UAB. |
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Post by Coach on Jun 14, 2010 22:09:48 GMT -5
So next year who's the Big 12 picking up to replace Colorado and Nebraska...that should be interesting. I say TCU for sure. I think they should make a push to get them in. Then maybe an Arkansas or even with a stretch just to try an attempt to weaken Bama go UAB. Really?? No doubt TCU is ready for the big stage....but it's seems like the Mountain West is progressing toward being a BCS respectable conference. Would they leave the MWC?? I like UCF, Houston, and East Carolina though.... |
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Post by Cambist on Jun 15, 2010 7:20:12 GMT -5
Arkansas isn't leaving the SEC. They really wouldn't go if Oklahoma and Texas left.
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jun 15, 2010 7:38:46 GMT -5
The Big XII has been saved. Texas isn't leaving so all the other schools will be staying put as well.
One or two school leaving doesn't hurt a conference.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 15, 2010 9:47:38 GMT -5
The Big XII has been saved. Texas isn't leaving so all the other schools will be staying put as well.
One or two school leaving doesn't hurt a conference.
Does the Big 10 become the Big 12 now, and does the Big 12 become the Big 10? Because, I mean technically...
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Post by Coldfront06 on Jun 15, 2010 10:08:04 GMT -5
I think the Pac-10 is now going after Utah, to push it to 12 teams so they can have a confernece championship game in football.
Losing Utah would hurt the MWC's chances of getting an automatic BCS bid.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jun 15, 2010 10:41:41 GMT -5
The Big 12 not dissolving basically changes everything doesn't it? Because it seemed like every conference was just gonna canabilize the rotting corpse of the Big 12 and if that's not happening (and it's not) what happens to conferences like the MWC that was hoping to pick off a team or two? How long does it take before the Big 12 cannabilizes one of the other conferences for a squad or two?
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Post by Coach on Jun 15, 2010 10:51:17 GMT -5
I think the the MWC is bound to add another school or two. The Big 12 may not ravage another conference like everyone thinks....they will be looking for 2 more schools that geographically fit their conference region. That may take some time but they need their 12 teams, to legitimately have a conference title game. Same reason why the MWC wants 12 teams.
Money motivates these conference moves so best believe the financial aspects would have to be right for any movement...
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 15, 2010 11:50:56 GMT -5
Arkansas isn't leaving the SEC. They really wouldn't go if Oklahoma and Texas left. Mannn I dunno. Steve Spurrier never pulls chit out of his ass.. "South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier fueled the fire in last week's post-spring teleconference with SEC Media, when asked about possible SEC expansion. "I don't know that we'll do a larger (conference). I hadn't heard that scenario," Spurrier said. "I heard maybe Arkansas back to the Big XII or something like that." If the Big 12 could land TCU and Arkansas. That would be major. Arkansas needs to be in the Big 12 in my estimation. I also agree getting a Florida team would be real nice. I'd like USF over UCF. They could pry them away from the Big East easy and USF has the speed right now to compete in the Big 12. |
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Post by Cambist on Jun 15, 2010 12:13:17 GMT -5
Arkansas would probably be a better fit for the Big 12, I agree. The old SWC rivalry of Arkansas - Texas is STILL a huge game and the demographic would be nice.
Unfortunately, I don't see why anyone would LEAVE the SEC on purpose.
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