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Post by Iceman on May 14, 2010 10:31:43 GMT -5
How do you feel about our Orgs putting Suspended Chapters, Suspended Members and/or Expelled Members on blast via our national and public websites? Not sure if all of our websites do this, but some do.
Is this a good thing or could this possibly be viewed as exposing in house business?
What do you think?
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Post by T-Rex91 on May 14, 2010 10:41:16 GMT -5
DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!!!!!!!
Even professionally, putting folks on blast is a highly effective way of driving a certain behavior. No one wants to be embarrassed but if you're being censured, you're fair game. These folks walk around in the street perping like they aren't on suspension and it's good to have a record of who really is.
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Post by bigsisteronpoint on May 14, 2010 10:41:40 GMT -5
Delta was one of the first D9s to do this. I have mixed feelings about it. One hand, I think if you do the crime, then you pay the consequences, but in some ways, I feel that this information should be in the secured, members only sections to keep this type of thing in house.
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Post by Chal™ on May 14, 2010 10:44:14 GMT -5
GDI opinion/question
i think it's actually helpful when it comes to identifying/recognizing Perps and those doing things in the name of the organization without permission or just cause. It could also help interests and aspirants (if that portion of the website is accessible) to not be duped by someone pretending to go on as though they are still "involved."
It's a known fact that some "interests" cuddle up to members of the orgs. Trying to get themselves out there in order to be chosen. If someone is expelled, and the information is kept in-house, it would affect the "networking" part of the aspirant.
Does that make sense?
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Post by T-Rex91 on May 14, 2010 10:47:29 GMT -5
Yes it does Chal. we list chapters and names and when the suspensions expire. if you hit a yard and are interested, your first stop should be the national site to determine if the people tryin to put you on line are even sanctioned or not. there shouldn't ever be a question at least from a national perspective about when that chapter is coming back. The campus sanction is another thing.
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Post by peppermint on May 14, 2010 11:19:04 GMT -5
From a risk management standpoint it's a very wise move. It's an extra step the organization can do to release some liability. It benefits more than just interestees...man you have people who move about the country all willy nilly. It can be hard to keep track of who, what, when, etc. Yes things would eventually get caught by conventional methods but with the glance of the screen you can tell whether or not this person is safe to bring around.
Sororities are more apt to do something like this though.
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Post by Robelite on May 14, 2010 11:30:59 GMT -5
I'm like DST.....DO IT, DAMMIT!!!
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Post by perroloco on May 14, 2010 11:37:21 GMT -5
Its a great thing to do especially as liability is concerned. Each person that presents himself/herself as a recognized member oof an org has what is known legally as "agency authority". Which means they have some legitimacy to act on behalf of the org or are believed to reasonably be a representative of the org. By announcing publically that suspended/expelled members or chapters are sanctioned, these people are known publically to students, campus officials, aspirants, and most importantly, to the legal community, as having no authority to act on behalf of said org. This greatly limits liability and satisfies certain risk management requirements.
I wish that we would go even further and list known perps and renegades. (I have sympathy for many renegades, but wished I knew who I was dealing with). This would cut down on a lot of B.S.
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Post by Robelite on May 14, 2010 11:46:26 GMT -5
Its a great thing to do especially as liability is concerned. Each person that presents himself/herself as a recognized member oof an org has what is known legally as "agency authority". Which means they have some legitimacy to act on behalf of the org or are believed to reasonably be a representative of the org. By announcing publically that suspended/expelled members or chapters are sanctioned, these people are known publically to students, campus officials, aspirants, and most importantly, to the legal community, as having no authority to act on behalf of said org. This greatly limits liability and satisfies certain risk management requirements. I wish that we would go even further and list known perps and renegades. (I have sympathy for many renegades, but wished I knew who I was dealing with). This would cut down on a lot of B.S. EXACTLY!! |
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Post by icebraka on May 14, 2010 12:06:08 GMT -5
How do you feel about our Orgs putting Suspended Chapters, Suspended Members and/or Expelled Members on blast via our national and public websites? Not sure if all of our websites do this, but some do. Is this a good thing or could this possibly be viewed as exposing in house business? What do you think? EXPOSING BUSINESS MY BLEEP. It's a great thing. Maybe these people will quiet possibly second guess their actions. IF YOU'RE NOT ASHAMED WHEN YOU DID THE CRIME SO WHY BE ASHAMED IF YOUR NAME IS ON THE WEBSITE. |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on May 14, 2010 13:00:38 GMT -5
Exalt Braka!!
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Post by icebraka on May 14, 2010 13:39:00 GMT -5
thanks boo.....but you know I'm not here for the popularity contest.  |
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Post by Robelite on May 14, 2010 13:45:56 GMT -5
thanks boo..... but you know I'm not here for the popularity contest. [/size] A lady ^^^ after mine own heart.  |
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 14, 2010 13:50:37 GMT -5
How come Nationals isn't exposing those who didn't pledge?
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Post by peppermint on May 14, 2010 13:51:38 GMT -5
How come Nationals isn't exposing those who didn't pledge? Are you serious? |
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 14, 2010 14:01:28 GMT -5
How come Nationals isn't exposing those who didn't pledge? Are you serious? Yes I am. There are instances of people who went through intake who participate in hazing new members. This happens mostly at the Grad level. I have checked a few dudes on this. I never participate in hazing those guys who are being made by someone who wasn't made. I always let the neos know the deal after they cross. |
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Post by Robelite on May 14, 2010 14:13:11 GMT -5
LMAO!!!! OMGosh!
Just when I thought I'd heard it all.......
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Post by goldmind1922 on May 14, 2010 14:18:13 GMT -5
How come Nationals isn't exposing those who didn't pledge? Are you serious? Don't you always tell everyone else not to bite the apple? |
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Post by goldmind1922 on May 14, 2010 14:19:08 GMT -5
I vote yes on this topic.
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Post by 123Diva on May 14, 2010 20:11:09 GMT -5
I think it's a GREAT idea.
That's all.
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Post by Julie Art on May 14, 2010 23:53:25 GMT -5
I agree with what everyone said on this topic.I especially agree with what Chal said cause you do have expelled or suspended members dooping aspirants.
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