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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 14, 2010 13:32:36 GMT -5
LOL
I wish a n----a would challenge Diggs, Armstong, Lee, Blakemore, Asher, Alexander, Grant, Irvin, Caine, or Edmonds. There would be someone stupid enuff to do it. I am sure that your founders did probably have a falling out with some members when they were alive. Your founders' views probably changed as they aged and the young members though that the founders were becoming weaker but wiser. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 14, 2010 14:35:14 GMT -5
I think of this question everytime I read about a hazing incident. Were they? Do any of us actually believe that the talented tenth were running engaged in physical and mental hazing back in the early 1900's? I think not. If we are aspiring to all that they created, how have we now decided that whatever threshhold they created is now not sufficient? I'm just asking. . I don't know if our Founders were against "pledging" since most of them lived to see hazing become endemic and systematic in our orgs. of course not to the point where it is now. One of our founders was the chairperson of the membership committee until his passing. He wrote the plegde manual. If he thought that pledging was insignificant, he most certainly would have abolished it prior to his death. We all agree that "hazing" is detrimental to our finances and even continued existence. But I will guarantee you that there is nothing that is happening now, that did not take place on some level between 1911 and 1973. Just a taste from some talented tenth and civil rights heroes: If you read the biographies of Thurgood Marshall and Langston Hughes, both tell lengthy stories of their hazing experiences while at Lincoln University in the 1920's. I have been fortunate enough to know fellow fraternity members who not only met the Founders, but were pledged by some. Read the biographies of MLK or Vernon Jordan. Each could tell of personal pledging/hazing experiences that would warrant a lawsuit, expulsion, or suspension in the 2000's. Aint nothing differnt other than litigation. I personally spoke with Jesse Jackson in the Feb of 1998. If you want to hear some stuff, listen to him talk about being a Bruh at NC A&T in the early '60's. S it and talk with Minister Louis Farakhan and ask him why he dropped line and you will hear about the same hazing that goes on today. Aint nothing different but perspective and litigation. The "I wanted to be an OMEGA but they black balled me!!!" speech makes me chuckle. He said that in the late 80's. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 14, 2010 14:37:03 GMT -5
LOL
I wish a n----a would challenge Diggs, Armstong, Lee, Blakemore, Asher, Alexander, Grant, Irvin, Caine, or Edmonds. There would be someone stupid enuff to do it. I am sure that your founders did probably have a falling out with some members when they were alive. Your founders' views probably changed as they aged and the young members though that the founders were becoming weaker but wiser. This niggah sittin around thinking nobody has seen he hasn't dissed the Kappas on the board not one time but yet he writes as if he's not one. SMDH This niggah hea I tell ya. |
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 14, 2010 14:38:57 GMT -5
I don't know if our Founders were against "pledging" since most of them lived to see hazing become endemic and systematic in our orgs. of course not to the point where it is now. One of our founders was the chairperson of the membership committee until his passing. He wrote the plegde manual. If he thought that pledging was insignificant, he most certainly would have abolished it prior to his death. We all agree that "hazing" is detrimental to our finances and even continued existence. But I will guarantee you that there is nothing that is happening now, that did not take place on some level between 1911 and 1973. Just a taste from some talented tenth and civil rights heroes: If you read the biographies of Thurgood Marshall and Langston Hughes, both tell lengthy stories of their hazing experiences while at Lincoln University in the 1920's. I have been fortunate enough to know fellow fraternity members who not only met the Founders, but were pledged by some. Read the biographies of MLK or Vernon Jordan. Each could tell of personal pledging/hazing experiences that would warrant a lawsuit, expulsion, or suspension in the 2000's. Aint nothing differnt other than litigation. I personally spoke with Jesse Jackson in the Feb of 1998. If you want to hear some stuff, listen to him talk about being a Bruh at NC A&T in the early '60's. S it and talk with Minister Louis Farakhan and ask him why he dropped line and you will hear about the same hazing that goes on today. Aint nothing different but perspective and litigation. The "I wanted to be an OMEGA but they black balled me!!!" speech makes me chuckle. He said that in the late 80's. Man, take your paper ass to a meeting and quit speaking on stuff you don't know about. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 14, 2010 14:45:57 GMT -5
The "I wanted to be an OMEGA but they black balled me!!!" speech makes me chuckle. He said that in the late 80's. Man, take your paper ass to a meeting and quit speaking on stuff you don't know about. Negro please.. Is this your last stand? THIS is your best effort? Ha Ha.. No matter what you type all I see is "Please Vudu Prince stop picking on me  " Go retrieve your cane chump. |
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Post by Troopa1911 on May 14, 2010 15:01:34 GMT -5
I am sure that your founders did probably have a falling out with some members when they were alive. Your founders' views probably changed as they aged and the young members though that the founders were becoming weaker but wiser. This niggah sittin around thinking nobody has seen he hasn't dissed the Kappas on the board not one time but yet he writes as if he's not one. SMDH This niggah hea I tell ya.
Get yo ass some founders before you speak about mind!
(Imma get one of these NEOS to throw some hot cookies on yo ass)
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Post by Troopa1911 on May 14, 2010 15:03:19 GMT -5
Man, take your paper ass to a meeting and quit speaking on stuff you don't know about. Negro please.. Is this your last stand? THIS is your best effort? Ha Ha.. No matter what you type all I see is "Please Vudu Prince stop picking on me " Go retrieve your cane chump.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 14, 2010 15:05:24 GMT -5
This niggah sittin around thinking nobody has seen he hasn't dissed the Kappas on the board not one time but yet he writes as if he's not one. SMDH This niggah hea I tell ya.
Get yo ass some founders before you speak about mind!
(Imma get one of these NEOS to throw some hot cookies on yo ass)
No not the cookies lol |
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Post by Iceman on May 14, 2010 15:18:12 GMT -5
Dag Nupey. Forget the Greek stuff - Black man to Black man....It may be time to just bow out gracefully. I think the gig is up chief.
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 14, 2010 16:43:16 GMT -5
Who is Nupey?
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 31, 2010 18:12:16 GMT -5
I think of this question everytime I read about a hazing incident. Were they? Do any of us actually believe that the talented tenth were running engaged in physical and mental hazing back in the early 1900's? I think not. If we are aspiring to all that they created, how have we now decided that whatever threshhold they created is now not sufficient? I'm just asking. I'm not going to hijack my own thread in the first post and go off on my usual rant about the lack of exclusivity and selectivity in the current processes but I'm standing at the fork in the road contemplating a hard right. - Hon. Walter H. Mazyck Initiated into Alpha Chapter 1913 as spoken in The ORACLE 1925[/color] The middle portion( last portion shown here) of this great commentary (which is known by almost every man in a bglo fraternity whether they admit it or not) shows the climate of pledging at Howard U in the early 1900's by Bro. Mazyck who was initiated in 1913. The words speaketh for themself. |
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Post by huey on May 31, 2010 20:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on May 31, 2010 20:58:41 GMT -5
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