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Post by thatque on Apr 14, 2010 21:08:23 GMT -5
I was asked this question today, & I was prepared to give a fantastic answer (relating to OMEGA PSI PHI only), but it was referring to all BGLO's & Masonic Organizations!
So I thought I would pose this question to OOA & the second part to the question was about our visable prescence in & committiment to the Community!
Are we really out there, working & making a difference, MAKING AN IMPACT, being good examples in others lives, in the community? If so what are some examples, what is your Organization(s) doing?
Well OOA let me hear from you all!
MASONS
ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR
All other Masonic Houses also.... (MALE)Royal Arch Masons, Royal & Select Masons, Knights Templers, Shriners, Consistories (32nd & 33rd degree Masons)
(FEMALE) Heroines of Jehrico, Ladies of the Circle of Perfection, The Guild (HTC) or The Cyrene Crusaders, The Golden Circle
ALPHA PHI ALPHA
KAPPA ALPHA PSI
OMEGA PSI PHI
PHI BETA SIGMA
IOTA PHI THETA
ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA
DELTA SIGMA THETA
ZETA PHI BETA
SIGMA GAMMA RHO
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 15, 2010 8:05:18 GMT -5
experience the rainbow....
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Post by PHIRECHYLD on Apr 15, 2010 8:34:27 GMT -5
Yes we are still relevant in 2010 and here's why...
Our tradition, our history is meant to be treasured. Especially in a time where our ancestors were being kept out of history books and being robbed of their accomplishments. It is imperative to show that success runs in our race and the Black Greek life experience and lifestyle has proven extremely germane to such success. Those were some of our earliest networks to not only pass along the "hook-up" to African Americans, but to "protect our brand" in a time where stealing and claiming pieces of our legacy as their own was common.
Our solidarity then is just as crucial as it is now. Although we no longer face the same opposition, we do face greater challenges. We face the plague of individualism and self-serving selfishness among our own race. Today's generation have come to accept that their success is independent of others and that there is no empathy for the less fortunate. It has caused a disease of apathy towards issues relevant to our race as a whole although it may not affect them as an individual.
We must continue to keep around our organizations as a reminder to the ongoing call of brotherhood/sisterhood in our culture. Our success has always relied upon the unity of us as the power of one. That's how we've survived and persisted through slavery, lynchings, the educational "dark ages", Jim Crow, and various assassinations of our outspoken leaders. That coming together is a testament to our race and a strong foundation to our history. A history that should serve as a constant reminder of -as the old negro spiritual would say- "We sho'll have come a longs way and we have such a long long ways to go" because our journey is far from over.
I argue the same relevance of HBCUs as well.
That's me giving you the short abbreviated version. Peace out Omega Man.
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 15, 2010 9:12:19 GMT -5
experience the rainbow.... iDIED! Some of the orgs. listed outside of BGLOs of course, I have never heard of! |
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 9:18:19 GMT -5
Well said & Thank you Phirechyld & I agree because the conversation did originally start about HBCU's and then shifted to BGLO's & Masons.
As a overall synopsis you have made many points & they are all very relavent, so again Thank you!
Where is everybody else at?
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 9:21:24 GMT -5
experience the rainbow.... |
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 9:29:13 GMT -5
experience the rainbow.... iDIED! Some of the orgs. listed outside of BGLOs of course, I have never heard of!
Also I assume that you have heard of Masons & O.E.S (Eastern Stars) which in most cases is the basic or the beginning for most Men & Women who become active in masonic Organizations but there are other houses they we/they can join & be active in. So yes they are all part of the whole but some people choose to be more loyal, dedicated, to some of the other Masonic houses than they do to thier 1st or the original one they joined so I dedicded to list them all!
Know that I have said that, what is your opinion and/or response, Julie Art, Are we still relavent in 2010? |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 15, 2010 9:38:11 GMT -5
experience the rainbow.... First, just let me say the bolded doesnt sound right... LOL Second, I yes, we are relevant and we always will be. We ARE History.. period. I personally try to make sure either my Delta chapter or the NPHC chapter is doing something community related and that we are parterning with organizations who want to preserve and protect the community. Even our Greek Picnic Weekend, which I am the chair, has 2 service events so if you miss one, you can come to the other. I stated when I was appointed that it wasnt going to be a weekend full of fun only, that we needed to give back. |
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 10:01:13 GMT -5
First, just let me say the bolded doesnt sound right... LOL
Either it's still early or I'm still half asleep (neither) but anyway I won't go there this morning! ;D
Second, I yes, we are relevant and we always will be. We ARE History.. period. I personally try to make sure either my Delta chapter or the NPHC chapter is doing something community related and that we are parterning with organizations who want to preserve and protect the community. Even our Greek Picnic Weekend, which I am the chair, has 2 service events so if you miss one, you can come to the other. I stated when I was appointed that it wasnt going to be a weekend full of fun only, that we needed to give back.
Great job & Great example, keep up the good work! When is the NPHC Picnic, that you are hosting? & Where is it? Because I am getting all kind of info on this Texas Greek Picnic in August!
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Post by Iceman on Apr 15, 2010 10:24:04 GMT -5
What’s up TQ and welcome.
PC summed it up well and in short, I would agree that we are relevant. All of our Orgs have admirable aims, objectives, partnerships and philanthropic efforts, many of which are being effictively carried out in our communities. In addition, our BGLO’s have successful men and women in our ranks (within almost every field) that have the pertinant financial and political clout, networking resources, and voices to raise awareness and partnerships in championing our causes. The Brotherhood and Sisterhood we share within our own Orgs will always be there regardless, but as long as we continue to mentor the youth, develop leaders, and stay active in our communities…we will remain relavent.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 15, 2010 10:50:28 GMT -5
Are we still relevant? Yes. Have we diminished (and do we continue to diminish) that relevance? Yes. There are times when you look around (if you've been around) that we spend so much time being Greek, we forget to be fam (or in our case friends). And it's not that the culture doesn't have it's place... it does... but it has to stay in that place.
What I've noticed is that with each passing generation of Greek, some new, arbitrary, and ridiculous behavior is foisted upon us all by "younger greeks" claiming some tradition that never actually existed before them. Prime example - cross pledging? That is WTF for me all day every day. 20 years from now I'm sure some people will swear by it and say that it actually started during the Underground Railroad and I'll either walk away laughing or shaking my head (or both) and wonder - what is wrong with these people? Then I'll say to myself, "people who were 20 and 30 years older than me probably said the same thing about me".
Anyway - reality is reality. We are not the saviors of the world, but where we can do some good, we do. We have given scholarships to students who otherwise might not have a chance of getting any money, we have provided food to families who otherwise wouldn't have had anything to eat during the holidays, we provide medical screenings for people who otherwise wouldn't get them, conduct blood drives in places where people ordinarily wouldn't do them, do voter registration. We're out there... and I know because I am constantly on that frontline - EVER YEAR.
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 15, 2010 11:03:57 GMT -5
First, just let me say the bolded doesnt sound right... LOL Either it's still early or I'm still half asleep (neither) but anyway I won't go there this morning! ;DSecond, I yes, we are relevant and we always will be. We ARE History.. period. I personally try to make sure either my Delta chapter or the NPHC chapter is doing something community related and that we are parterning with organizations who want to preserve and protect the community. Even our Greek Picnic Weekend, which I am the chair, has 2 service events so if you miss one, you can come to the other. I stated when I was appointed that it wasnt going to be a weekend full of fun only, that we needed to give back. Great job & Great example, keep up the good work! When is the NPHC Picnic, that you are hosting? & Where is it? Because I am getting all kind of info on this Texas Greek Picnic in August! Its May 2nd at Adair Park, Pavillion #1... 2pm. I will send you info there is also a flyer up at www.houstonnphc.org |
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 11:09:59 GMT -5
Prime example - cross pledging? That is WTF for me all day every day. 20 years from now I'm sure some people will swear by it and say that it actually started during the Underground Railroad and I'll either walk away laughing or shaking my head (or both) and wonder - what is wrong with these people? Then I'll say to myself, "people who were 20 and 30 years older than me probably said the same thing about me".
Hey Team, hold on a second.... Call me Old, Slow, maybe even simple but WTH is "Cross Pledging"
Because I really don't know & I have never heard of it! but if it is what I think it is.... So please help a Que out & explain this to me! If you can!
Anyway - reality is reality. We are not the saviors of the world, but where we can do some good, we do. We have given scholarships to students who otherwise might not have a chance of getting any money, we have provided food to families who otherwise wouldn't have had anything to eat during the holidays, we provide medical screenings for people who otherwise wouldn't get them, conduct blood drives in places where people ordinarily wouldn't do them, do voter registration. We're out there... and I know because I am constantly on that frontline - EVER YEAR.
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Post by icebraka on Apr 15, 2010 11:29:41 GMT -5
I was asked this question today, & I was prepared to give a fantastic answer (relating to OMEGA PSI PHI only), but it was referring to all BGLO's & Masonic Organizations!
So I thought I would pose this question to OOA & the second part to the question was about our visable prescence in & committiment to the Community!
Are we really out there, working & making a difference, MAKING AN IMPACT, being good examples in others lives, in the community? If so what are some examples, what is your Organization(s) doing?
Well OOA let me hear from you all! MASONS ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR All other Masonic Houses also.... (MALE)Royal Arch Masons, Royal & Select Masons, Knights Templers, Shriners, Consistories (32nd & 33rd degree Masons)
(FEMALE) Heroines of Jehrico, Ladies of the Circle of Perfection, The Guild (HTC) or The Cyrene Crusaders, The Golden Circle ALPHA PHI ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA PSIOMEGA PSI PHI PHI BETA SIGMA IOTA PHI THETAALPHA KAPPA ALPHA DELTA SIGMA THETA ZETA PHI BETA SIGMA GAMMA RHO How long did it take you to colorize this post? friend/girlfriend/mother/ cousin/ niece/snob/star/AKA/nick nack patty wack give a dog a bone..... |
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Post by icebraka on Apr 15, 2010 11:32:22 GMT -5
First, just let me say the bolded doesnt sound right... LOL Either it's still early or I'm still half asleep (neither) but anyway I won't go there this morning! ;DSecond, I yes, we are relevant and we always will be. We ARE History.. period. I personally try to make sure either my Delta chapter or the NPHC chapter is doing something community related and that we are parterning with organizations who want to preserve and protect the community. Even our Greek Picnic Weekend, which I am the chair, has 2 service events so if you miss one, you can come to the other. I stated when I was appointed that it wasnt going to be a weekend full of fun only, that we needed to give back. Great job & Great example, keep up the good work! When is the NPHC Picnic, that you are hosting? & Where is it? Because I am getting all kind of info on this Texas Greek Picnic in August! Its May 2nd at Adair Park, Pavillion #1... 2pm. I will send you info there is also a flyer up at www.houstonnphc.orgYall better hope its not hot! I refuse to sweat for yall! lolol you know imma be there if the Lord spares and the creek don't rise |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 15, 2010 11:33:35 GMT -5
LOL. Yah, thats why we moved it up.. so it wouldnt be as hot, that was the main complaint last year
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Post by icebraka on Apr 15, 2010 11:38:17 GMT -5
LOL. Yah, thats why we moved it up.. so it wouldnt be as hot, that was the main complaint last year Mikey said I'll be out there with my lawn chair and a window unit air condition! lol He ain't lying though! |
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Post by Robelite on Apr 15, 2010 12:06:06 GMT -5
Are we still relevant? Yes. Have we diminished (and do we continue to diminish) that relevance? Yes. There are times when you look around (if you've been around) that we spend so much time being Greek, we forget to be fam (or in our case friends). And it's not that the culture doesn't have it's place... it does... but it has to stay in that place.
What I've noticed is that with each passing generation of Greek, some new, arbitrary, and ridiculous behavior is foisted upon us all by "younger greeks" claiming some tradition that never actually existed before them. Prime example - cross pledging? That is WTF for me all day every day. 20 years from now I'm sure some people will swear by it and say that it actually started during the Underground Railroad and I'll either walk away laughing or shaking my head (or both) and wonder - what is wrong with these people? Then I'll say to myself, "people who were 20 and 30 years older than me probably said the same thing about me".
Anyway - reality is reality. We are not the saviors of the world, but where we can do some good, we do. We have given scholarships to students who otherwise might not have a chance of getting any money, we have provided food to families who otherwise wouldn't have had anything to eat during the holidays, we provide medical screenings for people who otherwise wouldn't get them, conduct blood drives in places where people ordinarily wouldn't do them, do voter registration. We're out there... and I know because I am constantly on that frontline - EVER YEAR. Damie said it all right there! Through it all; the foolishness, the trivial matters that some use to divide the orgs (within the orgs themselves,) there are some of us who are STILL out there on the forefront making a difference in the lives of folks in our communities. |
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 15, 2010 12:35:56 GMT -5
iDIED! Some of the orgs. listed outside of BGLOs of course, I have never heard of!
Also I assume that you have heard of Masons & O.E.S (Eastern Stars) which in most cases is the basic or the beginning for most Men & Women who become active in masonic Organizations but there are other houses they we/they can join & be active in. So yes they are all part of the whole but some people choose to be more loyal, dedicated, to some of the other Masonic houses than they do to thier 1st or the original one they joined so I dedicded to list them all!
Know that I have said that, what is your opinion and/or response, Julie Art, Are we still relavent in 2010? Any org. or institution can stay releveant as long as they adjust to current the trends and issues of our times. So, as long as mine/theses other orgs. adapt to meet the demand of the times, yes we are. |
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 12:45:40 GMT -5
I was asked this question today, & I was prepared to give a fantastic answer (relating to OMEGA PSI PHI only), but it was referring to all BGLO's & Masonic Organizations!
So I thought I would pose this question to OOA & the second part to the question was about our visable prescence in & committiment to the Community!
Are we really out there, working & making a difference, MAKING AN IMPACT, being good examples in others lives, in the community? If so what are some examples, what is your Organization(s) doing?
Well OOA let me hear from you all! MASONS ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR All other Masonic Houses also.... (MALE)Royal Arch Masons, Royal & Select Masons, Knights Templers, Shriners, Consistories (32nd & 33rd degree Masons)
(FEMALE) Heroines of Jehrico, Ladies of the Circle of Perfection, The Guild (HTC) or The Cyrene Crusaders, The Golden Circle ALPHA PHI ALPHA KAPPA ALPHA PSIOMEGA PSI PHI PHI BETA SIGMA IOTA PHI THETAALPHA KAPPA ALPHA DELTA SIGMA THETA ZETA PHI BETA SIGMA GAMMA RHO How long did it take you to colorize this post? friend/girlfriend/mother/ cousin/ niece/snob/star/AKA/nick nack patty wack give a dog a bone..... |
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Post by All Pledging Is Legal on Apr 17, 2010 10:25:20 GMT -5
I would have to say no.
But then again, I think these organizations are wasting time trying to "accomplish" things. Black Greeks and Prince Hall Masons and other groups just do not have enough members or money to really make a big impact. They will not even reach out to other minorities or white people. So how can a segregated group of people stuck in the past make a difference in the world today? They can't.
These groups just need to focus on having fun and enjoying an elite status amongst black people. There is really no other reason to join.
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 17, 2010 11:58:59 GMT -5
Once again, this poster right here!
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Post by thatque on Apr 17, 2010 16:10:58 GMT -5
I would have to say no. But then again, I think these organizations are wasting time trying to "accomplish" things. Black Greeks and Prince Hall Masons and other groups just do not have enough members or money to really make a big impact. They will not even reach out to other minorities or white people. So how can a segregated group of people stuck in the past make a difference in the world today? They can't. These groups just need to focus on having fun and enjoying an elite status amongst black people. There is really no other reason to join.
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I just read your post & beside the fact that there is a lot in your statement that is not based on facts! So I won't say or call you wrong because I asked for people opinions & sometimes it will be different than my own but at least when making such wide & broad statements maybe you can support it with some facts and/or factual evidence!
Such as....
"Wasting time trying to accompolish things" in order to make a difference and/or change things you have to make a effort & try! Are you a part of a BGLO or a Masonic Organization? If not , what are you doing to make a difference? or what organization do you belong to that is making a difference?
"Do not have enough members and money to really make a big impact" - Are you really serious? do you really believe and/or think that this is true? Have you looked at the membership roll of all BGLO's? & as far as Prince Hall Masons we have even more extensive list of members and money but the issue is the members & the money but it is a issue of giving & using it to make a larger impact but WE do have the number as far as members & access to money!
"They will not even reach out to other minorities or white people." I will just speak for the two Masonic Grand Lodge that I have been active (still is active) in M.W.P.H.G.L of Illinois & M.W.P.H.G.L of Georgia, yes we are majority black but we have several members that are not black, I have meet & fellowshipped with White, Hispanic, Korean PRINCE HALL Masons, just to name a few but we are not & do not discriminate & as far as OMEGA PSI PHI I have also met & personally know several Ques who are White and Hispanic I even meet a Que in 2008 at our Conclave in Birmingham, AL that is RUSSIAN!
"So how can a segregated group of people stuck in the past make a difference in the world today?" Simply put we are not segregated, we are not stuck in the past, YES we value, respect, & promote our past accompolishments & acheivements but that list of accolades is growing constantly not only for OMEGA PSI PHI but for all BGLO's, therefore as long as we are a part of this world & care then we can & will continue to make a difference!
"These groups just need to focus on having fun and enjoying an elite status amongst black people. There is really no other reason to join." I started not to address this part but I am! I am a very proud, active, & financial member of OMEGA PSI PHI (14 YEARS) as well as a PRINCE HALL MASON (17 YEARS) and I will say that it has been years of WORK, yes I have had some fun, but it came when & after the WORK was done, so it's not what you say but what you do! I like this quote....
"PONDER THIS THOUGHT, WELLDONE IS TRULY BETTER THAN WELL SAID"
Lastly as far as Elite Status, correction we have some Elite members who are Elite because of the sacrifices they have made & the work they have done & continue to do so to be a part of that history, that legacy, & get a opportunity to add to it by working, making a difference, sacrifcing, & giving of myself, my time, my money, my energy, & my tireless efforts just to make someone else life better then that makes me & my organizations better for doing tha, so I guess you are right about that because that does make us ELITE!
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Post by Chal™ on Apr 19, 2010 3:11:18 GMT -5
i think i'm gonna like TQ just fine after i kick his e-butt in the traditions thread. Yep, just fine.
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Post by Cambist on Apr 19, 2010 10:11:56 GMT -5
Relevant? Yes (to both organizations and HBCU's)
Could we be/do/represent better? Of course.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Apr 19, 2010 10:41:53 GMT -5
I would have to say no. But then again, I think these organizations are wasting time trying to "accomplish" things. Black Greeks and Prince Hall Masons and other groups just do not have enough members or money to really make a big impact. They will not even reach out to other minorities or white people. So how can a segregated group of people stuck in the past make a difference in the world today? They can't. These groups just need to focus on having fun and enjoying an elite status amongst black people. There is really no other reason to join. There is a lot of projecting in this post, LOL. |
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Post by icebraka on Apr 19, 2010 12:02:21 GMT -5
I would have to say no. But then again, I think these organizations are wasting time trying to "accomplish" things. Black Greeks and Prince Hall Masons and other groups just do not have enough members or money to really make a big impact. They will not even reach out to other minorities or white people. So how can a segregated group of people stuck in the past make a difference in the world today? They can't. These groups just need to focus on having fun and enjoying an elite status amongst black people. There is really no other reason to join. Sounds good to me. |
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Post by denounced on Apr 19, 2010 13:25:39 GMT -5
is thatque the que that bounced about a year ago? Anyway, can you identify who the GAOTU is? Masons call him the creator, so is he?
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Post by Cambist on Apr 20, 2010 10:50:33 GMT -5
What do you call the G.A.O.T.U., denounced?
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Post by thatque on Apr 22, 2010 11:57:22 GMT -5
i think i'm gonna like TQ just fine after i kick his e-butt in the traditions thread. Yep, just fine. |
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