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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 4, 2008 13:40:54 GMT -5
Here's a post for you. Question: how do you feel doin' the do but knowing you're sinning? Does it bother you? I have a friend who's Christian, but she gives little thought to fornication. She's kind of like, "Yeah, it's a sin. But I'm going to do it anyway". Or do you TRY to abstain--and fail? Discuss. ;D
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Feb 4, 2008 13:43:56 GMT -5
oooh! good one..i will post when i get home from work!
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Feb 4, 2008 13:51:09 GMT -5
::lurk::
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Feb 4, 2008 14:20:06 GMT -5
Here's a post for you. Question: how do you feel doin' the do but knowing you're sinning? Does it bother you? I have a friend who's Christian, but she gives little thought to fornication. She's kind of like, "Yeah, it's a sin. But I'm going to do it anyway". Or do you TRY to abstain--and fail? Discuss. ;D As Christians we attempt to walk closer with God daily. As we do this, through prayer and studying His word, our desire to sin should decrease. Is your friend at least praying and asking God for strength in that area? If not, I would question her sincerity. I know for myself, when I sin, I am immediately convicted by the Holy Spirit. I believe that God understands that we will sin, that is why He sent Jesus, but I don't think he expects us to dwell in sin. Not when he has given us all the tools to live a victorious life. God has given us His commandments, not as a way to hold us back, but to set us free. When we continue to live in sin, we give that area of our life over to satan. We block so many blessings by living in rebellion.
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Post by msurbana on Feb 4, 2008 17:38:16 GMT -5
I am not having sex, but sometimes I think I get pretty close. For some reason I don't feel guilty. LOL
We have decided to abstain. It is a decision I made over a year ago and was glad to find someone who had the same mindframe. We are both saved, yet I am at a different level than him. I am still praying for guidance. He is active in the church.
I told him from the gate that regardless where I was spiritually--I WOULD NOT hinder his walk by sexing him.
It was a tough decision, but I was already on my journey--I definately did not want to knock someone else off theirs.
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 4, 2008 17:41:03 GMT -5
>>>>only e-sins
>>>>IRL is perfect
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Post by Nupey on Feb 4, 2008 17:41:45 GMT -5
Its one of those things that are difficult to control. You hear married couple's talk about how you shouldn't do it, but Get the fuck outta hear with that BS. Its easy to say it when you GET to do it. But what about Lying? What about cursing, they're all equally wrong
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Post by MochaD on Feb 4, 2008 18:09:24 GMT -5
EVERYONE SINS! Be it lustful thoughts, fornication, gossip (speaking or reading), stealing, etc. I can go on and on. Repent and rebuke all future sinful thoughts in the name of Jesus -that's ideal but does one ever REALLY do this?? If it ain't one sin, it's another. And no sin is greater or lesser than another. A sin is a sin is a sin IMO.
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Feb 4, 2008 19:16:30 GMT -5
Its one of those things that are difficult to control. You hear married couple's talk about how you shouldn't do it, but Get the fuck outta hear with that BS. Its easy to say it when you GET to do it. But what about Lying? What about cursing, they're all equally wrong No one is discounting the fact that lying and cursing are sins as well. This particular discussion is about sex. If you proclaim to be a Christian, then you know what the Word says about fornication. If you choose to do it, go ahead, but don't get mad at married folks who tell the truth. Yeah, I can have sex with my husband with no penalty, but with marriage comes a whole new set of challenges. The temptation to sin does not go away just because fornication is off the table. A lot of marriages struggle with adultery. The root of sexual sin is lust and lust can manifest itself no matter what your marital status is.
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Post by msurbana on Feb 4, 2008 19:26:18 GMT -5
Get it said, Prissy!
Im not married, but I know no one is exempt from the pressures of temptation.
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 5, 2008 16:53:55 GMT -5
<===Abstained for the last 8 years <===Kept by GOD alone. <===Knows you can be kept if you desire. We cannot try to rationalize sin by saying "hey we all sin" because that is in essence attempting to justify sin. Does God give us grace...of course. Thank God for it. But, shall we continue to sin so that Grace may abound? GOD FORBID! (Romans 6). If we use God's word (God gives us grace/nobody is perfect) to escape God's will (Abstain from sex) then we run the danger of missing God completely. In fact, the 3rd commandment. "Do not misuse the name of the Lord your God", has nothing to do with screaming Jesus! when you hit your hand on a nail or anything like that... Rather it means that we are not to claim that God gives us authority to do something that he clearly has not given us authority to do. For example, if I go to Z's bank and say, she told me that it is okay to take out $500 from her account, I would be misusing her name, because she never gave me the permission to do that. In the same way, if we throw the proverbial "God understands" or "Everybody sins" blanket over acts of spiritual rebellion, we are in essence asserting that God is somehow okay with sin, as if that which repulses Him now deserves tolerance, and in turn, misuse His word in His name, and pervert His will. Man...that was deep
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Post by osiris on Feb 5, 2008 17:25:25 GMT -5
So Jay ... ( great to see you on-board ... great to see you on-board...) is it safe to presume that you haven't busted a nut in 8 years? If you haven't, because you've been "faithful", then I'm sure that whomever you marry ...(G-d bless her soul) ... you're going to shoot her into the air like the hot spring geyser "Ol' Faithful." <-- (Pun intended) I mean ... I guess the point or question that I'm trying to get to is this: Is it also a sin to mentally imagine someone and masturbate? It's apparent that during the masturbating session that one's mind is there ... what's the difference between being there mentally as oppose to being there physically ... the act is still committed internally within the heart is it not? Does not G-d judge the heart? O..
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Post by mos06def on Feb 5, 2008 18:35:04 GMT -5
wow...talk about an issue that hits home
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Post by Sweet&Chic on Feb 5, 2008 19:30:26 GMT -5
Ok good topic....but question for you
If you get a divorce and your spouse is still alive and then move on to get re-married does that still constitute as fornicating?
considered the fact that husband and wife are bond till death due they part...
what's your thoughts???
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 5, 2008 22:34:02 GMT -5
Masturbation is as wrong as two left shoes too... and when I get married... my wife will pay the price. As to divorce and remarriage, I'll get back to yall on that. I'm tired.
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 10:50:33 GMT -5
Masturbation is as wrong as two left shoes too... and when I get married... my wife will pay the price. As to divorce and remarriage, I'll get back to yall on that. I'm tired. <----Looks in Bible
<----Doesn't see where beating your meat is a sin
<----Ask for Clarification
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 11:02:45 GMT -5
P, man...for the 5 millionth time...here goes.
Lust is a sin. (Galatians 5) Masturbation is a lustful Act. Masturbation is a sin.
NOBODY masturbates and thinks about gas prices or the the 08 election...you have lustful thoughts which are condemned in the Word.
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 11:10:08 GMT -5
P, man...for the 5 millionth time...here goes. Lust is a sin. (Galatians 5) Masturbation is a lustful Act. Masturbation is a sin. NOBODY masturbates and thinks about gas prices or the the 08 election...you have lustful thoughts which are condemned in the Word. What if you think about PAST experiences?
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 11:28:52 GMT -5
Thats even WORSE!!! How in the world are you going to live a free life if your at home smacking off to some chick you had sex with in the past. Not only are you indulging in lust, but your also conjuring up memories of past bondage. And to think... I actually exalted you...smh
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Post by Ms. RedamnDickulous on Feb 6, 2008 11:48:44 GMT -5
<-------- Masturbated to thoughts of the election...no actually it was Obama.
*disclosure: I do not share your belief system, but respect your stance. So, in saying that, I will be a good girl on your turf. My bad...here's an exalt for your troubles and your faithfulness.
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 11:50:39 GMT -5
<----Knows that Jay is only PARTIALLY telling the truth.
<---Remembers what he told him a while back
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 11:52:25 GMT -5
yeah right P! lol... I shall be smiting thou pretty soon
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 11:54:40 GMT -5
Lol...
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 11:55:10 GMT -5
Man, as fine as Question is....you GOTS to be lying...you did SOMETHING....
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 12:00:38 GMT -5
No sir! Yes she is fine... and yes she is fine (my bad I said that twice ;D ) but we ain't never crossed over to the dark side...lol.
Is it easy...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO but with the help of Gawd, we'll keep it holy.
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 12:08:22 GMT -5
No sir! Yes she is fine... and yes she is fine (my bad I said that twice ;D ) but we ain't never crossed over to the dark side...lol. Is it easy... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO but with the help of Gawd, we'll keep it holy. So you ain't ever rubbed her booty?
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 12:11:41 GMT -5
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Post by jay0heavenly on Feb 6, 2008 12:15:34 GMT -5
I aint never said I've been PERFECT...lol...but I can say we are striving for real for real to be Holy before God.
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Post by coldfront06 on Feb 6, 2008 12:17:50 GMT -5
Question, Jay, what do you think God considers "marriage?" Do you have to have a legal marriage certificate for your marriage to be recognized by God? Do you think God recognizes "common law" marriages?
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Post by Nupey on Feb 6, 2008 12:21:50 GMT -5
So you HAVE done some things....then...lol
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