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Post by Sapphire on Jan 25, 2010 21:12:49 GMT -5
Just being nosey curious, is it normal these days for a university to host a mandatory MIP meeting before intake begins?
I was at my UG school today and they had signs advertising a mandatory Fraternity/Sorority MIP/Recruitment meeting... which basically said no matter what org you plan on joining this spring, you better be at this meeting or it's a no go. Anyhoo, I was just wondering if all schools do that or if it's new?
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Post by Coldfront06 on Jan 25, 2010 21:16:54 GMT -5
Just being nosey curious, is it normal these days for a university to host a mandatory MIP meeting before intake begins? I was at my UG school today and they had signs advertising a mandatory Fraternity/Sorority MIP/Recruitment meeting... which basically said no matter what org you plan on joining this spring, you better be at this meeting or it's a no go. Anyhoo, I was just wondering if all schools do that or if it's new? Definitely not all schools though I have heard of it before. It probably varies according to school. |
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Post by Sapphire on Jan 25, 2010 21:28:24 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jan 25, 2010 21:48:34 GMT -5
Just being nosey curious, is it normal these days for a university to host a mandatory MIP meeting before intake begins? I was at my UG school today and they had signs advertising a mandatory Fraternity/Sorority MIP/Recruitment meeting... which basically said no matter what org you plan on joining this spring, you better be at this meeting or it's a no go. Anyhoo, I was just wondering if all schools do that or if it's new? I just came back from one tonight. I think they are stupid. At least the way my school does it. Tonight they want to switch it up by making a game out of NPHC info with interest and greek as aides.EPIC FAIL They call it a Meet and Greet but you never have an opportunity to talk to anyone or anything you just go to an auditiourium and listen to the same generic info you can find on any greek t-shirt and when sign up starts. good topic I always wonder about that. |
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 25, 2010 21:51:09 GMT -5
Ummmmm, we didn't have this at my school and as far as I know they don't now.
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Post by Sapphire on Jan 25, 2010 22:07:10 GMT -5
Interesting Glam. This one is in the auditorium too. Not sure what the content is.
@ Juicy, we didn't have this when I was in school... but that was a gazillion years ago. Back then you just went to the meetings/rush/smoker/informational of the org you wanted to join.
I prolly woulda gone in just to be nosey but it wasn't tonight. Plus I might have gotten outed for being old. LOL
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Post by Cambist on Jan 26, 2010 8:30:01 GMT -5
Several schools are now following this model. If done correctly, it can be a good tool for the university. One college here in Arkansas had Dr. Walter Kimbrough come out and talk about hazing and some of the things he's seen and testified too during hazing trials (he's been called in as an expert witness on several cases)
But if it's just one mass informational....yeah, it's a waste.
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jan 26, 2010 13:11:22 GMT -5
Several schools are now following this model. If done correctly, it can be a good tool for the university. One college here in Arkansas had Dr. Walter Kimbrough come out and talk about hazing and some of the things he's seen and testified too during hazing trials (he's been called in as an expert witness on several cases) But if it's just one mass informational ....yeah, it's a waste. pretty much. I mean the information that they tell you can be found on any orgs website. The gpa requirements and there hazing policy. which is quite bs depending on the chapter. I mean if prospective don't take the incentive to know the minumn about the org and it bare requirements to join than you need to take your tail elsewhere. |
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jan 26, 2010 13:46:46 GMT -5
Many may think of it as a waste of time, but in the long run the school can use this meeting it's way of informing students of the consequences of hazing at that univ/college. It's also a legal way out if a hazing situation occurs.
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jan 26, 2010 13:58:34 GMT -5
Many may think of it as a waste of time, but in the long run the school can use this meeting it's way of informing students of the consequences of hazing at that univ/college. It's also a legal way out if a hazing situation occurs. yea I guess that about right. Then in that case it all makes sense. |
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Post by Robelite on Jan 26, 2010 14:07:39 GMT -5
Many may think of it as a waste of time, but in the long run the school can use this meeting it's way of informing students of the consequences of hazing at that univ/college. It's also a legal way out if a hazing situation occurs. Troop, you took the words right off my keyboard! That is EXACTLY why the colleges/universities hosts these events. When some nut or assorted nuts go out and blisters some kid's ass or fractures and breaks their bones, the institutions will say "well, So and So University takes a no-tolerance policy on hazing. That is why we hosted a forum on the dangers of these acts on _____ 2010." These schools are saying straight up, "act a fool if you wanna...we won't take the fall for your ignorance." |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jan 26, 2010 14:26:22 GMT -5
Many may think of it as a waste of time, but in the long run the school can use this meeting it's way of informing students of the consequences of hazing at that univ/college. It's also a legal way out if a hazing situation occurs. Agrees with Troopa. Sounds like the university CYA. |
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jan 26, 2010 15:47:48 GMT -5
The school might make them sign something stating they (Student) were in attendance of that meeting.
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Post by Robelite on Jan 26, 2010 17:08:10 GMT -5
That's what they are doing at Alabama A&M. They have a seminar in the fall for students who anticipate pursuing Greek membership, and they get them to sign documents confirming that they attended the session. If they DON'T attend, they are NOT ELIGIBLE to pursue membership for that year.
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Post by Troopa1911 on Jan 26, 2010 18:52:42 GMT -5
That's what they are doing at Alabama A&M. They have a seminar in the fall for students who anticipate pursuing Greek membership, and they get them to sign documents confirming that they attended the session. If they DON'T attend, they are NOT ELIGIBLE to pursue membership for that year.  |
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Post by Oldskool on Jan 27, 2010 9:54:40 GMT -5
Just being nosey curious, is it normal these days for a university to host a mandatory MIP meeting before intake begins? I was at my UG school today and they had signs advertising a mandatory Fraternity/Sorority MIP/Recruitment meeting... which basically said no matter what org you plan on joining this spring, you better be at this meeting or it's a no go. Anyhoo, I was just wondering if all schools do that or if it's new?
They call it a Meet and Greet but you never have an opportunity to talk to anyone or anything you just go to an auditiourium and listen to the same generic info you can find on any greek t-shirt and when sign up starts. good topic I always wonder about that. Any information that is ridiculously important is imparted as if it were a joke. The younger generations need to be tricked into learning. Giving out info as needed with a serious face is frowned upon. Have you watched a cartoon lately? Go into a classroom. Timetables are no longer memorized and regurgitated at will, kids are handed out manipulative objects and games. Sorry. I digress. |
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Post by LejaOMG on Jan 27, 2010 10:27:03 GMT -5
I've seen it a lot @ HBCUs...funny thing is usually, by the time the University gets around to it, lines are already selected. Auditorium full of ninjas wearing all black with grit faces on being told "just say no to hazing." M'eh.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 27, 2010 11:14:19 GMT -5
I just came back from one tonight. I think they are stupid. At least the way my school does it. Tonight they want to switch it up by making a game out of NPHC info with interest and greek as aides.EPIC FAIL They call it a Meet and Greet but you never have an opportunity to talk to anyone or anything you just go to an auditiourium and listen to the same generic info you can find on any greek t-shirt and when sign up starts. good topic I always wonder about that. This sounds like a set up, lol. |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 28, 2010 14:23:43 GMT -5
I guess if you got the right info it could also help someone that was undecided about what org to join to make a decision without having to worry about being "black balled" for going to XYZ's informational first...
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Post by Sapphire on Jan 28, 2010 14:42:20 GMT -5
Yay! I started a Greek-related thread with some replies.  I guess it makes sense for the school to host the meeting. You all make good points as to its purpose. Since I’ve been out of school for a while it was just new to me. And yes, Fatal I think a school sponsored meeting could be used as an informational too… I don’t think that was the case here because my UG doesn’t have fall lines. So as some suggested, I’m thinking this was a “don’t say we didn’t tell you” meeting. Thanks y'all! |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jan 28, 2010 15:13:52 GMT -5
I just came back from one tonight. I think they are stupid. At least the way my school does it. Tonight they want to switch it up by making a game out of NPHC info with interest and greek as aides.EPIC FAIL They call it a Meet and Greet but you never have an opportunity to talk to anyone or anything you just go to an auditiourium and listen to the same generic info you can find on any greek t-shirt and when sign up starts. good topic I always wonder about that. This sounds like a set up, lol. yea lets everyone and the greeks to be nosy about everyone that wants to be greek that year. nosy as heck |
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Post by Oldskool on Jan 28, 2010 15:19:56 GMT -5
This sounds like a set up, lol. yea lets everyone and the greeks to be nosy about everyone that wants to be greek that year. nosy as heck
See, I have a problem with this concept. Why is showing interest in being Greek so taboo? Too many secrets. SMH! |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Jan 28, 2010 15:28:38 GMT -5
yea lets everyone and the greeks to be nosy about everyone that wants to be greek that year. nosy as heck
See, I have a problem with this concept. Why is showing interest in being Greek so taboo? Too many secrets. SMH!That's how I was taught. You can show interest by being at events and getting to know members. But why do I have to show up at an interest for sgrho in front of everyone that interest in crossing in 2010? I think it has to do with not making it. Cause if you end up crossing 2010 then it was all cool and a cute story to tell if you don't well a lot more people than just the other interests would know. Ya feel me? Plus, I had guy friends in frats in school and I liked being known to them as not being interested. Once you go to the GREEK INformational your cover is blown. just cause you a kappa don't mean you need to know that i'm interested in sgrho. Hey if you see me at an event or two hey I can't help if you come up to your own conclusions but if you see me at a mandatory greek infromational then I'm pretty much confirming it. |
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jan 28, 2010 18:46:43 GMT -5
yea lets everyone and the greeks to be nosy about everyone that wants to be greek that year. nosy as heck
See, I have a problem with this concept. Why is showing interest in being Greek so taboo? Too many secrets. SMH!Because from the day you set foot on a college campus you are supposed to know what org you want to be in and do everything in your power to make it happen, lol. Looking at other options openly is frowned upon...you better not say nothing to no one until you have made up your mind. |
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Post by FatalDST on Jan 29, 2010 15:35:18 GMT -5
^^exactly!!!! It's not interest in being Greek, its that you supposed to know which org you want to be in...
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Post by Iceman on Jan 29, 2010 16:06:31 GMT -5
It’s really a catch 22 for these aspirants. If you didn’t previously know anything about the Greek system, I suppose on one hand it would behoove you to check the different informational seminars. Maybe it’s different now at UG’s. But that was such a taboo practice back in the day.
I guess you could call it petty, but a lot of Greeks didn’t want you publically hopping from informational to informational. In a lot of cases (if you weren’t already pre-pledging that Org), it was just assumed that the interest meeting of the Org you were sitting in, was the one you would be pledging if you were chosen – At least that’s how every other Greek looked at it. After seeing an aspirant dressed up in another informational, nobody wanted to feel like you came to their Org as an alternate afterthought.
I always felt the best way to go about was to outwardly observe the Orgs very carefully, be commonly cordial to all, but do your thorough research privately until you start leaning a certain way. Then, you start approaching that Org’s members, expressing interest and sharing what you know of them, showing up to their sponsored events, playing the game, etc, etc. But in the end, everyone's path is different. Every campus is different. Whatever works.
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Post by Oldskool on Jan 29, 2010 16:11:56 GMT -5
I can say this. Thank God I came in when I did. It's too much to deal with today. Waaaaay too many rules.
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Post by peppermint on Jan 29, 2010 22:11:57 GMT -5
Meet & Greets at my school weren't considered "interest" meetings nor were they mandatory. If there's going to be mass interest meetings, why not a mass process
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