Don't Ask, Don't Tell

[Cambist]

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy? Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

[QueenOH]

Heck they should take anybody they can get as long as they are good soldiers. Why ask in the first place? What does it have to do with how well they can shoot a person? Are they going to be wearing bright Orange Uniforms to tell them from the other soldiers or something distracting like that?

[T-Rex91]

I'm not willing to risk my life in service so I say anyone who is should have the opportunity. I support gays serving in the military and think many currently do and are very successful.

[Oren Ishii]

Do I support open service?
Of course I do.

Here's my issue with DADT:
If LGBT members of the military have to follow it, everyone should. No one should be able to bring any info regarding their sexual preference into military life.

If it's a question of professionalism, and the ability of soldiers to work together without discomfort, it should work both ways.

To avoid issue on the part of any soldier, tell EVERYONE to keep their Sex. orient. to themselves; or, better yet, just accept that there are LGBT service members & treat them with the dignity & respect afforded every heterosexual soldier.

If I'm a gay soldier, I'm probably not comfortable with you showing pics of your wife/gf, or commenting on your sexual escapades. It's the EXACT same thing.


NO ONE should be forced to live a lie to keep their job. If these men/women are willing to put themselves in harm's way, to risk life & limb in defense of this country (something most of us want no part in) then they should be treated equally, rather than as some scourge on the honor & valor of the American military.

By Exec. Order or some Congressional action...should it be repealed? ABSOLUTELY.

I do fear there may be some backlash on those currently serving from their colleagues,however, if Exec. Order is the road taken.

EARTH TO CONGRESS: There have ALWAYS been gay soldiers. DEAL WITH IT.


*hops down off soapbox*

Nov 10, 2009 9:49:50 GMT -5 Cambist said:

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy? Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

[T-Rex91]

Nov 10, 2009 10:22:34 GMT -5 Oren Ishii said:

Do I support open service?
Of course I do.

Here's my issue with DADT:
If LGBT members of the military have to follow it, everyone should. No one should be able to bring any info regarding their sexual preference into military life.

If it's a question of professionalism, and the ability of soldiers to work together without discomfort, it should work both ways.

To avoid issue on the part of any soldier, tell EVERYONE to keep their Sex. orient. to themselves; or, better yet, just accept that there are LGBT service members & treat them with the dignity & respect afforded every heterosexual soldier.

If I'm a gay soldier, I'm probably not comfortable with you showing pics of your wife/gf, or commenting on your sexual escapades. It's the EXACT same thing.


NO ONE should be forced to live a lie to keep their job. If these men/women are willing to put themselves in harm's way, to risk life & limb in defense of this country (something most of us want no part in) then they should be treated equally, rather than as some scourge on the honor & valor of the American military.

By Exec. Order or some Congressional action...should it be repealed? ABSOLUTELY.

I do fear there may be some backlash on those currently serving from their colleagues,however, if Exec. Order is the road taken.

EARTH TO CONGRESS: There have ALWAYS been gay soldiers. DEAL WITH IT.


*hops down off soapbox*

Nov 10, 2009 9:49:50 GMT -5 Cambist said:

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy? Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

Yep, what she said.

[LogAKAlly <3'n Keef]

Nov 10, 2009 10:22:34 GMT -5 Oren Ishii said:

Do I support open service?
Of course I do.

Here's my issue with DADT:
If LGBT members of the military have to follow it, everyone should. No one should be able to bring any info regarding their sexual preference into military life.

If it's a question of professionalism, and the ability of soldiers to work together without discomfort, it should work both ways.

To avoid issue on the part of any soldier, tell EVERYONE to keep their Sex. orient. to themselves; or, better yet, just accept that there are LGBT service members & treat them with the dignity & respect afforded every heterosexual soldier.

If I'm a gay soldier, I'm probably not comfortable with you showing pics of your wife/gf, or commenting on your sexual escapades. It's the EXACT same thing.


NO ONE should be forced to live a lie to keep their job. If these men/women are willing to put themselves in harm's way, to risk life & limb in defense of this country (something most of us want no part in) then they should be treated equally, rather than as some scourge on the honor & valor of the American military.

By Exec. Order or some Congressional action...should it be repealed? ABSOLUTELY.

I do fear there may be some backlash on those currently serving from their colleagues,however, if Exec. Order is the road taken.

EARTH TO CONGRESS: There have ALWAYS been gay soldiers. DEAL WITH IT.


*hops down off soapbox*

Nov 10, 2009 9:49:50 GMT -5 Cambist said:

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy? Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

EXALT SOROR!!

[Cambist]

So what do you think Obama is waiting for? Is he waiting for the Health Care Bill to be passed? Would an executive order add more fuel to the already random fires being perpetrated by the Wingnuts?

Do you think he will wait until chyt gets hot and then sign the order?

[T-Rex91]

he already has too much on the go. also, the dems don't want to use the 60 rule to pass healthcare reform. they want some cosign from the other side. open this up now and the door will close on any compromise between the parties. IMO, An executive order would be a bad move right now.

[Julie Art]

What '91 said. From what we have seen from our Presdent so far, he calculates everything that he does and when he should do it. It's all about strategic planning.

[DamieQue™]

I had a long winding answer but I'll give you the short version:

My opinion of DADT?
It was better than it's predecessor. It's only flaw was that it still allowed for dicharge from service if the relationship was discovered.

Do you support gays serving openly in the military?
No. I would support DADA. Don't ask, don't advertise. If it's your private life - let it remain private. No one needs to know what ANYONE does on their own time. Service to your country should be just that - service to your country. Anyone seeking to make a political statement should look elsewhere - the armed service has to be about the mission.

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it?
Absolutely not. He has already been painted as the exotic, dangerous, too liberal, not like you and me, President - he can't afford the political baggage. In the past 5 years for example - gay marriage initiatives have been defeated in at least 31 states - the country has been unapologetic about how they currently view these type of issues. Let the grass roots put pressure on Congress to put this bill up - let's have some "buy in" on these initiatives and not just expect Obama to go out on a limb.

[Dasani]

If anyone wants to serve in the military let him/her serve gay, straight, purple, blue, green. However, I say Don't Ask Don't Tell. What business is it of yours what someone is doing in their bedroom...Why does one need to be openly gay in the military? What the heck do you need to share about that at your job? Do you need to talk about how cute someone is... what?

The only problem I have is if someone is outted they are discharged. You should not be discharged because of your sexually orientation.

[Sapphire]

Nov 10, 2009 10:19:50 GMT -5 T-Rex91 said:

I'm not willing to risk my life in service so I say anyone who is should have the opportunity. I support gays serving in the military and think many currently do and are very successful.

Co-sign. And why are we discussing sexual preference as a policy anyway. It's not discussed in other places of employment. Stop talking about who you getting it in with and focus on the tasks at hand. Trust me, the enemy is not gonna care or make a distinction between who's gay and who's not before he starts shooting. And let people be themselves anyway. Be open, the DL is no bueno.

[Blues Clues]

Who cares about sexual orientation?? My thing is, once the cloth is not disrespected, and no one feels threatened or harass, then ANYONE should be able to join. How uncool is it to see the military shirt tied at the waist with an openly gay man being as flambouyant as they like to be?? Once you are a part of the nation's fight for our continued freedom and the freedom for others, I say join...HECK< BETTER THEM THAN ME!!!! (no offense to any military personnel, but I really wasnt cut out for the army)

[peppermint]

Nov 10, 2009 9:49:50 GMT -5 Cambist said:

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy?

Honestly, I don't particularly get why this is a policy. I'm not naive enough to believe that homosexuals aren't discriminated against in the military. My issue is that if it is a moral thing, why aren't people trippin off extreme heterosexuals? Why is it okay for someone to have 50-11 baby daddies and baby mamas? I'm disgusted that the policy is needed in the first place.


Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Yes. As others have stated, their sexuality has nothing to do with their willingness to serve and protect.

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

I think President Obama is already trying to do too much too soon. Adding another issue at this point would be devastating to his presidency. It would be great if he could address this before leaving office.

On another note, what do the folks of OOA say about this:
news.aol.com/health/article/navy-veteran-richard-ramsey-has-sex/761734

[Dasani]

^^^^
So this dude is a Navy veteran of 20 years and now his old a$$ has changed his gender… Well HELL. I don’t think this really should matter in him joining the military or even should be an argument in gays not joining.

HELL…there I have been instances of dudes who later in life all of a sudden want to dress up like women and they say they are not gay...or guys who were not “gay” but years later are gay now. You never know what a person might do or how they might change…so they should be able to serve in the military… the subject does not need to be discussed in the military…Don’t ask Don’t Tell

[denounced]

Nov 10, 2009 10:22:34 GMT -5 Oren Ishii said:

Do I support open service?
Of course I do.

Here's my issue with DADT:
If LGBT members of the military have to follow it, everyone should. No one should be able to bring any info regarding their sexual preference into military life.

If it's a question of professionalism, and the ability of soldiers to work together without discomfort, it should work both ways.

To avoid issue on the part of any soldier, tell EVERYONE to keep their Sex. orient. to themselves; or, better yet, just accept that there are LGBT service members & treat them with the dignity & respect afforded every heterosexual soldier.

If I'm a gay soldier, I'm probably not comfortable with you showing pics of your wife/gf, or commenting on your sexual escapades. It's the EXACT same thing.


NO ONE should be forced to live a lie to keep their job. If these men/women are willing to put themselves in harm's way, to risk life & limb in defense of this country (something most of us want no part in) then they should be treated equally, rather than as some scourge on the honor & valor of the American military.

By Exec. Order or some Congressional action...should it be repealed? ABSOLUTELY.

I do fear there may be some backlash on those currently serving from their colleagues,however, if Exec. Order is the road taken.

EARTH TO CONGRESS: There have ALWAYS been gay soldiers. DEAL WITH IT.


*hops down off soapbox*

Nov 10, 2009 9:49:50 GMT -5 Cambist said:

What is your opinion of the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy? Do you support gay's serving openly in the military?

Should President end DADT by executive order until Congress can officially repeal it? If so, when? If not, why?

One difference between your gay and heterosexual analogies, heterosexuality is normal, homosexuality is not. There needs to be limitations on those with immoral behavior including denial of admission. This would include fornicators, thieves (stealing Ak's and selling them), liars, etc.

How many openly gay anchormen or anchorwomen do we see? How many gay men and women do we find doing the NFL Today or The NFL on Fox? There are just some places where homosexuals are not wanted, but I do believe open fornication should be punished in the same way. I could go on.... It's all about what people will tolerate.

[denounced]

Last month was GLBT month. Why isn't there one for heterosexuals??

[Oren Ishii]

Hmmm....

Interesting.
Thanks for sharing your opinion, denounced.

Nov 13, 2009 19:23:15 GMT -5 denounced said:

Nov 10, 2009 10:22:34 GMT -5 Oren Ishii said:

Do I support open service?
Of course I do.

Here's my issue with DADT:
If LGBT members of the military have to follow it, everyone should. No one should be able to bring any info regarding their sexual preference into military life.

If it's a question of professionalism, and the ability of soldiers to work together without discomfort, it should work both ways.

To avoid issue on the part of any soldier, tell EVERYONE to keep their Sex. orient. to themselves; or, better yet, just accept that there are LGBT service members & treat them with the dignity & respect afforded every heterosexual soldier.

If I'm a gay soldier, I'm probably not comfortable with you showing pics of your wife/gf, or commenting on your sexual escapades. It's the EXACT same thing.


NO ONE should be forced to live a lie to keep their job. If these men/women are willing to put themselves in harm's way, to risk life & limb in defense of this country (something most of us want no part in) then they should be treated equally, rather than as some scourge on the honor & valor of the American military.

By Exec. Order or some Congressional action...should it be repealed? ABSOLUTELY.

I do fear there may be some backlash on those currently serving from their colleagues,however, if Exec. Order is the road taken.

EARTH TO CONGRESS: There have ALWAYS been gay soldiers. DEAL WITH IT.


*hops down off soapbox*

One difference between your gay and heterosexual analogies, heterosexuality is normal, homosexuality is not. There needs to be limitations on those with immoral behavior including denial of admission. This would include fornicators, thieves (stealing Ak's and selling them), liars, etc.

How many openly gay anchormen or anchorwomen do we see? How many gay men and women do we find doing the NFL Today or The NFL on Fox? There are just some places where homosexuals are not wanted, but I do believe open fornication should be punished in the same way. I could go on.... It's all about what people will tolerate.

[Sapphire]

Nov 13, 2009 19:26:52 GMT -5 denounced said:

Last month was GLBT month. Why isn't there one for heterosexuals??

The same reason there isn't a Whitey suffrage month.

[peppermint]

IDK there was an GLBT month. LOL @ Whitey suffrage month

[Oren Ishii]

Sapphy, I heart you...like, for real. LOL

Nov 14, 2009 1:52:29 GMT -5 Sapphire said:

Nov 13, 2009 19:26:52 GMT -5 denounced said:

Last month was GLBT month. Why isn't there one for heterosexuals??

The same reason there isn't a Whitey suffrage month.

[Sapphire]

LOL @ Pep and Muse. I'm just sayin... Heterosexual month, for why? It's like celebrating White Man's Emancipation Day. Sillyness.

[Blues Clues]

Nov 13, 2009 19:26:52 GMT -5 denounced said:

Last month was GLBT month. Why isn't there one for heterosexuals??

i guess cause we got the rest of the year....lol

[nsync]

If we kill opportunity for "the immorals", Denounced none of us would be here. If you are talking in terms of sin...then we all sin. GTHECKOHWTBSHNAZZLE!

Anyhow, I don't support firing someone for their sexual preferences.

That brings up sexuality inthe work place in general. If you want gays to stay professional then straight folks should too. No comments about what you like how you like it, NO SEXUAL HARRASSMENT and sexist comments. Just keep it professional. See folks want to get but they don't want to give a little in the process.

That's the nature of discrimination.

[Bunny Hop]

Nov 13, 2009 19:23:15 GMT -5 denounced said:

One difference between your gay and heterosexual analogies, heterosexuality is normal, homosexuality is not. There needs to be limitations on those with immoral behavior including denial of admission. This would include fornicators, thieves (stealing Ak's and selling them), liars, etc.

How many openly gay anchormen or anchorwomen do we see? How many gay men and women do we find doing the NFL Today or The NFL on Fox? There are just some places where homosexuals are not wanted, but I do believe open fornication should be punished in the same way. I could go on.... It's all about what people will tolerate.

Maybe it's just me but I can't think of any anchorwoman or man talking about their sexual preference either way. No one opens up their news segment by saying "Hello....I'm straight.....today on the news there was an accident on 285."

[nsync]

lol ^^^^^