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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 25, 2009 13:30:19 GMT -5
Here's how CBS reports it
Here's the actual raw footage. Notice a difference? Notice anything that happens in the 2nd video that's not mentioned in the report? Notice who the police make a bee-line for? Notice who throws an actual punch?
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Post by Bunny Hop on Aug 25, 2009 17:51:02 GMT -5
the woman CLEARLY pushed him first and everyone gets on him...so typical
Now what exactly was going on with the parking space? The news anchor was saying he was trying to get a space but I heard the Black guy say he was blocking the driveway. So was it that people were trying to get in and out of the driveway and that fool was blocking it?
Relying on the news will have you even more uninformed and looking straight dumb.
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Post by Cambist on Aug 26, 2009 9:08:18 GMT -5
1. He assaulted the camera man so if they wanted to....they could say he was "public nuisance" since he assaulted a camera man (unprovoked) and then get's into a confrontation with the driver and the woman.
2. That woman shoved him...he shoved her. *shrugs* I don't see a problem. And anyone who comes in saying that "a man should never put his hands on a woman like that" needs to pay a $25 dollar fee because their Reality Check just bounced!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 26, 2009 10:14:45 GMT -5
As I watched the video I did not conclude that Dr. Moody wasn't guilty of assault. What I noted was that the woman pushed him, the driver punched him, and another person came in and pushed the doctor at the end, and the ONLY one that was arrested in the video was the doctor.
They make a bee-line towards HIM. No one else. At a minimum it seems like the guy that threw a punch should have been arrested also.
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Post by Cambist on Aug 26, 2009 11:03:45 GMT -5
Come on Damie...you played basketball. Only what the ref can see will count.
He actually did assault the cameraman and unfortunately, the cameraman was the only one who could prove he actually didn't assault the woman and that the man swung first.
Also, take into account that the cops were probably called after he assaulted the cameraman and then they come and he's just got into physical altercations with the man AND the woman.
Yeah, he's Black but he's also the only common factor in all of the incidents.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Aug 26, 2009 11:43:25 GMT -5
I know yall have returned the kickoff for a touchdown on this but sorry to say.... >>> Did this ninja jump in the lil white dudes car and made an attempt to move the junt? Uh yeah lol. And he pushed dude to get in HIS car and out of HIS car. Naw ole Doc is senile but when he came out that coat some ass whuppins were about to be coming for sure.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 26, 2009 12:02:10 GMT -5
Come on Damie...you played basketball. Only what the ref can see will count. He actually did assault the cameraman and unfortunately, the cameraman was the only one who could prove he actually didn't assault the woman and that the man swung first. Also, take into account that the cops were probably called after he assaulted the cameraman and then they come and he's just got into physical altercations with the man AND the woman. Yeah, he's Black but he's also the only common factor in all of the incidents. The punch and the shove of the doctor by the other man came AFTER he pushed down the lady. If they saw that - they saw HIM be assaulted too.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 26, 2009 12:04:55 GMT -5
I know yall have returned the kickoff for a touchdown on this but sorry to say.... >>> Did this ninja jump in the lil white dudes car and made an attempt to move the junt? Uh yeah lol. And he pushed dude to get in HIS car and out of HIS car. Naw ole Doc is senile but when he came out that coat some ass whuppins were about to be coming for sure. We don't know how long he was out there waiting. Could've been 10 minutes... could've been 10 seconds. I thought moving the dudes car for him was extra g myself - but all I'm saying is if you saw the doctor shove the woman, then you saw the dude swing a punch at him. If that had been a black family in the car that wouldn't move, and the black guy had gotten out to throw a punch you can bet your next 10 paychecks that niccuh would've gotten some matching metal bracelets.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Aug 26, 2009 12:35:04 GMT -5
Yeah, he pushed the guy and got into his vehicle. He was wrong from the start.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Aug 26, 2009 12:39:36 GMT -5
I know yall have returned the kickoff for a touchdown on this but sorry to say.... >>> Did this ninja jump in the lil white dudes car and made an attempt to move the junt? Uh yeah lol. And he pushed dude to get in HIS car and out of HIS car. Naw ole Doc is senile but when he came out that coat some ass whuppins were about to be coming for sure. We don't know how long he was out there waiting. Could've been 10 minutes... could've been 10 seconds. I thought moving the dudes car for him was extra g myself - but all I'm saying is if you saw the doctor shove the woman, then you saw the dude swing a punch at him. If that had been a black family in the car that wouldn't move, and the black guy had gotten out to throw a punch you can bet your next 10 paychecks that niccuh would've gotten some matching metal bracelets. So because of time homie can carry out an attempted Grand Theft Auto huh? Bruh stay out of the legal field.. You'd have ninjahs doing 10 year bids for jay walking. shit to the damn naw. One mo word outta you >>>>>
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Post by Cambist on Aug 26, 2009 12:40:33 GMT -5
0:09- Doc shoves man and get's into mans car 0:14- Doc gets out of car and shoves man again 0:37-Doc turns and notices camera man 0:42 -0:46- Doc walks over to camera man and pushes the camera 1:03- Woman walks from car and pushes Doc 1:05- Doc pushes woman to the ground 1:09-Man gets out of car and swings on Doc 1:24- Random dude pushes Doc as Doc approaches man and woman 1:27 -Cops arrest Doc
Upon further review, Doc should have just called the police. Instead, he tried to handle it himself and ended up shackled.
He was in the wrong here....on several different occassions.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Aug 26, 2009 13:51:34 GMT -5
they all should have gotten something whether it be a ticket or a charge.
I do think had this been all Black people they would have all gotten in trouble. I've seen videos of some chick beating on a guy and the minute he shoves her everyone is screaming "you don't hit no girl" and then he gets arrested. Take them all to jail.
I wonder if maybe he'd been pissed about something else and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. I wouldn't have tried to move someone's car but he would have caught some words for blocking the driveway...as I was calling the police. I bet they parked there and just sat there like it was no problem and then looked at everyone else like they were wrong, lol.
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Post by Warner Fite on Aug 26, 2009 15:36:57 GMT -5
Hi...
I didn't really bother watching the link, but I just want to say that road rage is a little source of entertainment for me.
Who am I kidding?
Its actually pretty to cool to witness.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 26, 2009 16:20:16 GMT -5
We don't know how long he was out there waiting. Could've been 10 minutes... could've been 10 seconds. I thought moving the dudes car for him was extra g myself - but all I'm saying is if you saw the doctor shove the woman, then you saw the dude swing a punch at him. If that had been a black family in the car that wouldn't move, and the black guy had gotten out to throw a punch you can bet your next 10 paychecks that niccuh would've gotten some matching metal bracelets. So because of time homie can carry out an attempted Grand Theft Auto huh? Bruh stay out of the legal field.. You'd have ninjahs doing 10 year bids for jay walking. shit to the damn naw. One mo word outta you >>>>> LOL - Bruh - one of these days you actually have to read what I'm saying before you can offer a critique.
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Post by Highly Favored on Aug 26, 2009 18:07:49 GMT -5
I agree that the black man was not completely in the clear. I also agree that all who pushed and hit should have been arrested. Obviously, it didn't happen that way. People have to learn to keep their hands to themselves. EVERYBODY.
All I can say is this was SO not worth it. He still ended up not getting where he was so determined to go, at least not right then.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Aug 27, 2009 11:56:36 GMT -5
So because of time homie can carry out an attempted Grand Theft Auto huh? Bruh stay out of the legal field.. You'd have ninjahs doing 10 year bids for jay walking. shit to the damn naw. One mo word outta you >>>>> LOL - Bruh - one of these days you actually have to read what I'm saying before you can offer a critique. Cmon team... Lets flip this.. A mofo push you out the way and get ALL THE WAY IN YOUR WHIP. Two Feet in your chit not half way in all the way in then hop out. You move into the space and he comes back then pushes your lady on the ground.... If you don't swing on him your lady should leave you IMMEDIATELY! I'm just saying. Yes their are many injustices going down in this country but in this instance... no dice
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 27, 2009 12:13:55 GMT -5
As I watched the video I did not conclude that Dr. Moody wasn't guilty of assault. What I noted was that the woman pushed him, the driver punched him, and another person came in and pushed the doctor at the end, and the ONLY one that was arrested in the video was the doctor.
They make a bee-line towards HIM. No one else. At a minimum it seems like the guy that threw a punch should have been arrested also.
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Post by Highly Favored on Aug 27, 2009 13:57:20 GMT -5
As I watched the video I did not conclude that Dr. Moody wasn't guilty of assault. What I noted was that the woman pushed him, the driver punched him, and another person came in and pushed the doctor at the end, and the ONLY one that was arrested in the video was the doctor.
They make a bee-line towards HIM. No one else. At a minimum it seems like the guy that threw a punch should have been arrested also. I agree, but sometimes I also wonder... I don't know anyone who doesn't know that there is a double standard (white vs. black) when it comes down to police involvement in a situation and many other issues. The black man at one point attempted to get in the car and move it himself (it seemed). He then left and went back to his car. Why not just stay there? Also, if I remember correctly, there was a police car parked on the street when he turned to confront the person with the video camera. They showed up pretty quickly when things got ugly, so they were somewhere in the vicinity. Why not ask them for assistance if the people's car was illegally or inappropriately parked? Why go out of the way to be the aggressor in a situation when you know it could turn ugly and you could be the only one going to jail? I'm not saying how the situation was handled was fair and I certainly know that even the uncut version of the video probably doesn't tell the whole story. I am not endorsing unfair/unequal treatment of him because he is black. But why put himself in that situation is what I am confused about. We all already know the deal. And what did it really accomplish?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 27, 2009 14:33:10 GMT -5
As I watched the video I did not conclude that Dr. Moody wasn't guilty of assault. What I noted was that the woman pushed him, the driver punched him, and another person came in and pushed the doctor at the end, and the ONLY one that was arrested in the video was the doctor.
They make a bee-line towards HIM. No one else. At a minimum it seems like the guy that threw a punch should have been arrested also. I agree, but sometimes I also wonder... I don't know anyone who doesn't know that there is a double standard (white vs. black) when it comes down to police involvement in a situation and many other issues. The black man at one point attempted to get in the car and move it himself (it seemed). He then left and went back to his car. Why not just stay there? Also, if I remember correctly, there was a police car parked on the street when he turned to confront the person with the video camera. They showed up pretty quickly when things got ugly, so they were somewhere in the vicinity. Why not ask them for assistance if the people's car was illegally or inappropriately parked? Why go out of the way to be the aggressor in a situation when you know it could turn ugly and you could be the only one going to jail? I'm not saying how the situation was handled was fair and I certainly know that even the uncut version of the video probably doesn't tell the whole story. I am not endorsing unfair/unequal treatment of him because he is black. But why put himself in that situation is what I am confused about. We all already know the deal. And what did it really accomplish? It's a fair question but it's not one I'm examining in this thread. What I'm looking at is this seemingly blind eye that the News Report gives to actions we can see. That they somehow miss the exchange of shoves is amazing to me. If you can see why the Dentist should have been arrested (and I think you can, it's clear) you ought to see why the driver at least should have been arrested (it's equally as clear)
I mean even the "so-called" experts response seems a bit detached. Maybe if he had been sitting there for 10s waiting then his response was completely disproportionate. What if he had been waiting 10 minutes, asked several times, and missed important deadlines for his business because this guy wouldn't move his car? Would it be disproportionate then?
I think I see a new thread forming
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Post by Highly Favored on Aug 27, 2009 15:29:23 GMT -5
Okay, I understand.
I can't help myself. I tend to go off on tangents, sometimes. (lol)
I believe that what people write/report on is largely affected by their own views and biases. That's the only explanation I have for this. A different reporter/news network might have reported it differently. For example, they might have reported on what you have pointed out - the fact that only the black man was arrested.
I've given up on fair and unbiased reporting a long time ago. It goes back to the old adage that there are two sides to every story. I think there are at least three - my side, your side, and the truth. The media is operated by imperfect humans, so, in my mind, the same applies. It's unfortunate, but true.
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