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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jul 23, 2009 14:51:01 GMT -5
Here is a defiant clip of MLK Jr. as he was starting to come into his own. Do you think he was killed by those amongst him? Warning...this is a different type of MLK you will see here. The real MLK Jr. Who is the administration he is talking about? Who are these other civil rights leaders he speaks of?
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 23, 2009 20:38:30 GMT -5
For the administration, I'dgo with J Edgar Hoover. I was watching a documentary where they detailed how he sent evidence of affairs (fabricated? I don't know) to Coretta hoping to so disrupt his personal life that he would be neutralized.The only time I've seen our current POTUS remotely ticked was when his family was attacked so maybe that prompted the fire you see here. As for the civil rights leaders, I'm not sure who he's referring to but there are always those who feel eclipsed and become haters because they'll never shine as brightly. In the context of the comments about Hoover, some in his own circle (Young, Abernathy) encouraged him to lower his profile to take the heat off. Were they punks? Yes. Accessories to murder? I don't think so.
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Post by BKupInHere on Jul 23, 2009 21:06:47 GMT -5
DST is right. Hoover was a self hating cross dresser that sent audiotapes of MLK screwing another woman to Coretta. He was a slimy individual & I wouldnt put it past him. When MLK started talking about Vietnam and getting involved with the unions;that was the hastening of his demise
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jul 23, 2009 22:30:38 GMT -5
Ummmm.. Unpopular opinion here... The Hoover chit to me was a farce. Hoover was after anyone who was anti government. Hoover was set against Communism and the FBI was following this known communist I forget his name right at the moment but MLK Jr. had dinner with this dude one evening. They met on a few other occasions and Hoover told RFK about it. RFK told Hoover to wire tap MLK Jr. It was Robert Kennedy who gave the okay to snoop on MLK Jr from the very beginning. Hoover was just the fall guy in my opinion.
I personally think in this clip he is speaking out against Roy Wilkins. Some historians state his relationship with Bro. Wilkins was strained kinda like how Malcolm was with Elijah Muhammad. Remember Roy Wilkins controlled the money that the civil rights workers were paid with so he had lots of power.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 24, 2009 10:47:46 GMT -5
(As usual) you're more well versed on the players than I am but to call Hoover a farce and a fall guy? Homeboy was a well documented, cross dressing certifiable NUT. We have a senior leader who gives our CEO bad intel to get stuff authorized but that approval doesn't mean the senior leader is the one pulling the strings.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jul 24, 2009 16:40:05 GMT -5
Well with Hoover like I said before he was against anything that was anti US. He help destroy the KKK and wanted the CIA destroyed. What I'm saying is Hoover wasn't even thinking about MLK until he started kicking it with communist. Hoover thought communist were funding the Civil Rights movement using it as a front of dissent which could turn violent. RFK was the US Attorney General. Remember any federal wiretaps had to go through him first. RFK is the one who gave Hoover the okay to do the things he was doing and also seek out Moles that could be placed by MLK Jr. Some pudits state that yes the communist party and russia unloaded millions into the Civil Rights movement and when MLK Jr was murdered RFK was payback. The strongest mafia in terms used as such are the Russians..what folk don't say is they are also Jewish. RFK was a symbol of the Roman Catholic Church just as his brother and at that time the Vatican was still at odds with the legitimacy of Jewish people. Lots of twist and turns but I think MLK Jr. assassination was above Hoovers pay grade.
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Post by Cambist on Jul 27, 2009 10:11:30 GMT -5
Money had MLK killed. Hoover was a pitbull (with lipstick nonetheless) but every dog has it's leash.
MLK was killed, IMHO not because he was the face of a civil rights movement that was changing the cultural landscape of America and eventually other parts of the world but because he started talking about human rights and the rights of workers.
As long as you're just saying, "Black folk can ride the bus with White folk" everything was ok. No harm, no foul. But once you start fighting for fair wages and the end of imperal Capitialistic subjugation of others.....yeah....that niqqa gotta go.
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Post by denounced on Jul 27, 2009 15:47:22 GMT -5
My dad insisted they start their own bus companies in Alabama. The leadership refused to do it. That could have been a serious precedence set during those times.
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Post by blackhulk on Jul 27, 2009 22:34:29 GMT -5
Steve Cokely say MLK was government agent. Too keep us from uprising in violence. He alos say Jesse was in on it too cause he would not wear a tie, the night everything went down.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jul 28, 2009 11:38:44 GMT -5
Steve Cokely say MLK was government agent. Too keep us from uprising in violence. He alos say Jesse was in on it too cause he would not wear a tie, the night everything went down. Soooo Jesse Jackson a govt agent killed MLK Jr another govt agent? I've never heard Steve Cokely say MLK Jr was an agent but he did do a 7 part video about Jesse Jackson's role. It's more along the lines of what Cam was stating. MLK was starting to talk about issues that were affecting everyone. MLK Jr also wanted reparations for black folk as well. |
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Post by blackhulk on Jul 28, 2009 11:53:26 GMT -5
No Jesse did not kill him Jesse didnt want to be killed, he would not wear the tie. look at the pictures.
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Post by huey on Jul 28, 2009 11:58:27 GMT -5
Money had MLK killed. Hoover was a pitbull (with lipstick nonetheless) but every dog has it's leash. MLK was killed, IMHO not because he was the face of a civil rights movement that was changing the cultural landscape of America and eventually other parts of the world but because he started talking about human rights and the rights of workers. As long as you're just saying, "Black folk can ride the bus with White folk" everything was ok. No harm, no foul. But once you start fighting for fair wages and the end of imperal Capitialistic subjugation of others.....yeah....that niqqa gotta go. I agree Cam. And i don't know the dating of this clip VP, but i would assume MLK was referring to the other civil rights leaders and ministers who was not supporting the Poor People's Campaign or his ideas to make a broader mass movement. The more you read MLK's later speeches,writings, letters, the more you see he was becoming Anti-US, Anti-Capitalist, etc. |
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