Faith

[coldfront06]

To what extent do you rely on faith in your life? If you take actions that are seen as precautionary, does that mean you lack faith? For example, say you hear about a job opening. You feel that this would be the PERFECT job for you. You pray on it, apply, interview, and you feel that everything went well. Its going to be 2 weeks before you hear something. Now you are currently unemployed...do you look for other jobs in the meantime just in case you don't get the one you are praying about? That would be the so called "smart" thing to do, correct? However, is this viewed as a lack of faith?

[bulls3y3]

You have no control over FAITH. Once you put in the faith, it's up to God to decide what to do.

What it sounds like in what you are describing is that you are praying more to God for a job, period. Rather than a specific one.

If God blesses a man who is unemployed with a job, then praise the lord. Just because you didn't get the job you wanted as a CEO of McDonald's does give you the right to go against what God has planned for you.

Give thanks, because you have been blessed.

[jay0heavenly]

coldfront06 said:

To what extent do you rely on faith in your life? If you take actions that are seen as precautionary, does that mean you lack faith? For example, say you hear about a job opening. You feel that this would be the PERFECT job for you. You pray on it, apply, interview, and you feel that everything went well. Its going to be 2 weeks before you hear something. Now you are currently unemployed...do you look for other jobs in the meantime just in case you don't get the one you are praying about? That would be the so called "smart" thing to do, correct? However, is this viewed as a lack of faith?

Depends...if I believe that God is giving me that job... I wouldn't apply somewhere else...if I just think that the job is really good and I "hope" I get it... I might still apply elsewhere.

"Faith is the evidence of things not seen"...its not easy to hold on to sometimes...but its definitely necessary.

[THE emPRISS]

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Heb 11:1

hope can be linked to faith as well. they go hand in hand.

<< doesnt feel like debating today...lol

[jay0heavenly]

lol... Don't start no stuff won't be no stuff!!!

Yeah faith and hope can definitely be linked together... I was just saying that for me wishful thinking and God's promises are distinct (although in practice they're usually linked).

For me its like this...every time before I preach I "hope" I do well, ....but in the back of my mind, I know that God has given me a word to preach and He's not going to leave me...So I have "faith" that God is going to equip me to be effective. So they're different, but work together in a lot of circumstances.

[No Screen Name]

Depends...if I believe that God is giving me that job... I wouldn't apply somewhere else...if I just think that the job is really good and I "hope" I get it... I might still apply elsewhere.

I believe in God and faith...but I did this once. I "named and claimed" a job. I started (secretly) cleaning out my drawers and packing up my stuff at work to take home. I started setting my work in order to hand off to a new person. I posted a picture of the job, along with some scripture (it was something about "the door God opens no man can shut" or something like that). I made a dry run to the job location, to see how long my commute would be. I didn't entertain ANY thought of actually NOT getting this job. If a TINY SPECK of doubt came into my mind, I'd say, "I bind that thought in the name of Jesus. This job is for me".

Guess what? I didn't get the job. I felt duped, tricked, hurt, disappointed, confused, caught off guard, and very, very stupid.

I fell into a deep hole--and it took a lot to climb out. In fact, just typing this is making me feel a little upset.

I vowed I would NEVER put myself in that position again. I still pray, but I don't "name and claim" anything. And I make sure I have a plan A, B, C, D, E, F, G, etc.

[THE emPRISS]

jay0heavenly said:

lol... Don't start no stuff won't be no stuff!!!

Yeah faith and hope can definitely be linked together... I was just saying that for me wishful thinking and God's promises are distinct (although in practice they're usually linked).

For me its like this...every time before I preach I "hope" I do well, ....but in the back of my mind, I know that God has given me a word to preach and He's not going to leave me...So I have "faith" that God is going to equip me to be effective. So they're different, but work together in a lot of circumstances.

LOL! Right....there has to be an actual belief though not a mere wishful thought. Also, people have to remember that just b/c we ask, even believe and have faith...it may not be for us at that time. God isnt Santa Claus....sometimes certain things happen to test your faith as well as prepare you for something bigger than you can ever imagine.

[THE emPRISS]

z said:

Depends...if I believe that God is giving me that job... I wouldn't apply somewhere else...if I just think that the job is really good and I "hope" I get it... I might still apply elsewhere.

I believe in God and faith...but I did this once. I "named and claimed" a job. I started (secretly) cleaning out my drawers and packing up my stuff at work to take home. I started setting my work in order to hand off to a new person. I posted a picture of the job, along with some scripture (it was something about "the door God opens no man can shut" or something like that). I made a dry run to the job location, to see how long my commute would be. I didn't entertain ANY thought of actually NOT getting this job. If a TINY SPECK of doubt came into my mind, I'd say, "I bind that thought in the name of Jesus. This job is for me".

Guess what? I didn't get the job. I felt duped, tricked, hurt, disappointed, confused, caught off guard, and very, very stupid.

I fell into a deep hole--and it took a lot to climb out. In fact, just typing this is making me feel a little upset.

I vowed I would NEVER put myself in that position again. I still pray, but I don't "name and claim" anything. And I make sure I have a plan A, B, C, D, E, F, G, etc.

Perhaps that's not what God had planned for you. Doesn't mean that you were duped or stupid. I have faith that God will never allow me to starve to death, even if Im hungry and broke...but in my hunger, He will guide me and provide me the tools to learn what it is that I should to strengthen my faith...at the time I may be like, "I cant BELIEVE I prayed for chocolate cake and got a brussell sprout!" But when I look back,He may not have given me exactly what I wanted but He always provides.

I have some stories about faith for ya...lol.. ;D