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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 4, 2009 6:37:53 GMT -5
So does it matter to those who are Christians that the name of your God was never spoken just written? A 4 letter actual symbol that when flipped vertically from right to left it forms that of a man. Coined the Tetragrammaton by the Greeks. Your thoughts?  |
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Post by No Screen Name on May 5, 2009 12:58:18 GMT -5
I can't watch the video--but I used to date a man who was in a cult that was all about the Tetragrammaton.
To answer your question, NO, it doesn't bother me. To me to try to attach a "name" to God--who is beyond human comprehension--is pretty futile. A "name" is moreso for us than God. How can we assign a "name" to God?
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 5, 2009 19:25:39 GMT -5
I can't watch the video--but I used to date a man who was in a cult that was all about the Tetragrammaton. To answer your question, NO, it doesn't bother me. To me to try to attach a "name" to God--who is beyond human comprehension--is pretty futile. A "name" is moreso for us than God. How can we assign a "name" to God?
Which cult was it? You do know the Tetragrammaton is nothing but the greek spin on this from Judiasm.. Let see what Jesus supposedly did .. 17He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
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Post by Chal™ on May 7, 2009 9:35:14 GMT -5
if "God made man in His image", what the problem with the picture forming a man if man was made in His image?
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Post by BLAC-A-MUS PRYME on May 7, 2009 9:59:39 GMT -5
My apologies Chal, but if we are created by God, would making man out of his image make us equal to God? Then who should be worshipping who?
Personally, Muslims have 99 attributes to Allah. It is believed that to worship anything other than Allah or to even put anything in partnership with him is considered to be a sin.
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Post by Chal™ on May 7, 2009 10:17:17 GMT -5
My apologies Chal, but if we are created by God, would making man out of his image make us equal to God? Then who should be worshipping who? Personally, Muslims have 99 attributes to Allah. It is believed that to worship anything other than Allah or to even put anything in partnership with him is considered to be a sin. no apologies necessary. If you make something in the image of yourself, you are not making yourself. An image is simply a likeness. Not saythat we have all of his characteristics. The first man was perfect, but he although he was made in the image of God, he was not like God. He did not possess the Powersor the Knowledge of God. That doesn't mean he wasn't made in his likeness. I wasn't implying that we (humans) are on God's level. Not at all. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 7, 2009 20:10:26 GMT -5
My apologies Chal, but if we are created by God, would making man out of his image make us equal to God? Then who should be worshipping who? Personally, Muslims have 99 attributes to Allah. It is believed that to worship anything other than Allah or to even put anything in partnership with him is considered to be a sin.
Interesting... So explain the advent of the Ka'ba Stone and its relation to Allah? Also is not Allah taking credit and or retelling what happened in the torah? If so is he not bound also to the Incommunicable name? |
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Post by denounced on May 8, 2009 13:33:36 GMT -5
YHWH- No matter how you slice it, it comes up, " He causes to be"....... It's just that plain and simple. If I wrote a book, and did not want to actually say something, I could simply write it and define it. So simple................
He is a God who has revealed Himself under many names that describe Him in different ways.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 8, 2009 16:13:32 GMT -5
YHWH- No matter how you slice it, it comes up, " He causes to be"....... It's just that plain and simple. If I wrote a book, and did not want to actually say something, I could simply write it and define it. So simple................ He is a God who has revealed Himself under many names that describe Him in different ways.
It's is an alliteration. The YHWH was and is a symbol. Never had a sound until the Hebrew script was translated and fell up under the laws of annunciation it the new language. |
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Post by grits n gravy on May 9, 2009 19:17:05 GMT -5
Actually the first statement is false. You were allowed to speak the name once in your lifetime at a certain time. "G.O.D" is actually not a name but an acronym for Gomer, Oz and Dubar. Just thought Id throw my two cents in real quick. Also, the tetragrammaton is only thought to be from the Greeks. Noone can be 100% sure. With the adversarial relationship with the Romans, much of which is attributed to each will never be sorted out.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 10, 2009 14:17:16 GMT -5
Actually the first statement is false. You were allowed to speak the name once in your lifetime at a certain time. "G.O.D" is actually not a name but an acronym for Gomer, Oz and Dubar. Just thought Id throw my two cents in real quick. Also, the tetragrammaton is only thought to be from the Greeks. Noone can be 100% sure. With the adversarial relationship with the Romans, much of which is attributed to each will never be sorted out.
You're gonna need more than 2 cents my brother.... First off יהוה are all Hebrew consonants. You do know what that means right? That means it can't be put in a vocal form because it has not one vowel. That is why it is called the Incommunicable name. It has been transliterated into latin, greek, english, german and within those languages you hear it vocalized but in it's original form that can't happen.
If you read the initial statement it does state the Tetragrammaton is a Greek term. The Four Letters. Furthermore G.O.D. is not Gomer, Oz and Dubar who the hell told you that? It is a term found first in the Codex of Argenteus a biblical translation which was written in Gothic. It is a german term which meant to invoke. Acronym? Oh I get it you using your Masonic "light" for this convo. Maybe a poet who came up with it? Gotcha. lol If we using that then I'll say its called the G.uardian O.f D.estiny. Tell homie to bubble with that instead... it sounds better. lol Look up Arius and Arianism while you at it as well. |
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Post by huey on May 10, 2009 19:25:53 GMT -5
Actually the first statement is false. You were allowed to speak the name once in your lifetime at a certain time. "G.O.D" is actually not a name but an acronym for Gomer, Oz and Dubar. Just thought Id throw my two cents in real quick. Also, the tetragrammaton is only thought to be from the Greeks. Noone can be 100% sure. With the adversarial relationship with the Romans, much of which is attributed to each will never be sorted out.
You're gonna need more than 2 cents my brother.... First off יהוה are all Hebrew consonants. You do know what that means right? That means it can't be put in a vocal form because it has not one vowel. That is why it is called the Incommunicable name. It has been transliterated into latin, greek, english, german and within those languages you hear it vocalized but in it's original form that can't happen.
If you read the initial statement it does state the Tetragrammaton is a Greek term. The Four Letters. Furthermore G.O.D. is not Gomer, Oz and Dubar who the hell told you that? It is a term found first in the Codex of Argenteus a biblical translation which was written in Gothic. It is a german term which meant to invoke. Acronym? Oh I get it you using your Masonic "light" for this convo. Maybe a poet who came up with it? Gotcha. lol If we using that then I'll say its called the G.uardian O.f D.estiny. Tell homie to bubble with that instead... it sounds better. lol Look up Arius and Arianism while you at it as well.I haven't studied hieroglyphs in years, but from what i remember it wasn't too different from Hebrew in regards that it didn't have a script for vowels. The simplest example i can provide is the word hotep, which was written htp. My point being just because it didn't have any vowels doesnt mean ti couldnt be putin a vocal form. |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 12, 2009 9:06:39 GMT -5
You're gonna need more than 2 cents my brother.... First off יהוה are all Hebrew consonants. You do know what that means right? That means it can't be put in a vocal form because it has not one vowel. That is why it is called the Incommunicable name. It has been transliterated into latin, greek, english, german and within those languages you hear it vocalized but in it's original form that can't happen.
If you read the initial statement it does state the Tetragrammaton is a Greek term. The Four Letters. Furthermore G.O.D. is not Gomer, Oz and Dubar who the hell told you that? It is a term found first in the Codex of Argenteus a biblical translation which was written in Gothic. It is a german term which meant to invoke. Acronym? Oh I get it you using your Masonic "light" for this convo. Maybe a poet who came up with it? Gotcha. lol If we using that then I'll say its called the G.uardian O.f D.estiny. Tell homie to bubble with that instead... it sounds better. lol Look up Arius and Arianism while you at it as well.I haven't studied hieroglyphs in years, but from what i remember it wasn't too different from Hebrew in regards that it didn't have a script for vowels. The simplest example i can provide is the word hotep, which was written htp. My point being just because it didn't have any vowels doesnt mean ti couldnt be putin a vocal form.
Were the hieroglyphs of Hotep incommunicable or the translation? Thats what you mus ask yourself.... |
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