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Post by 123Diva on Mar 12, 2009 14:30:40 GMT -5
<----has a friend whose mother called Regional Directors/Nationals twice (two different regions) to inquire as to why her daughter didn't make line <----was surprised that her friend shared this info with her Nothing new. And the fact that she told you that says ALOT about how these girls type think. They think that is cool and okay to do. I know a chapter who had to fight tooth and nail bc this chick's mom had the pres of her grad chapter write her recommendation. The very grad chapter who "mentors" the chapter. The girl went to NO programs and is mediocre ALL around. She didnt turn an app in. The RD made the chapter re-open the app deadline so she could get hers in and then reconsider more people TWICE just to make sure she got in. Well, they reconsidered twice and took two additional girls and not her....we'll see if this line even finishes b/c the girl and her mom are throwing a fit. SMH Thats the mess Im talking about. THEY DONT WANT YOU! And if she DOES get in, nobody will like her (they already dont)...why would you want to set your daughter up for failure like that? I love my sorority but I would love my daughter more and I wouldnt sacrifice her self-esteem, wellbeing, and peace of mind just so she can be in a sorority. That seems reckless to me. My friend is truly a nice, motivated, engaged young lady and I would not have viewed her as someone who feels "entitled" but she clearly did not see the issue with what she/her mother did. So, obviously, "others" would give her the side-eye, especially when you have the audacity to ask about applicant X, Y, and Z who made it but your "qualified" daughter didn't. I just listened to the story and wished her the best. I had no comments for the phonecalls to Nationals. ::shrugs:: |
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Post by coldfront06 on Mar 12, 2009 15:17:54 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 12, 2009 15:20:51 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL. LOL - YOU DEFINITELY should know!!! LOL! |
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Post by icebraka on Mar 12, 2009 15:22:08 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL. So what'chu tryin to say! |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 12, 2009 15:24:05 GMT -5
Priss me exGrad Advisor did that to her daughter. Her daughter said she didn't make it, my ExGA was confused b/c she's legacy - not realizing her daughter didn't want to puller her L card...
Me exGA called the RD and made a big fuss - they added her and I 'm not sure what all they did, but let's say she has NEVER HAD ANYTHINg to do with AKA since and that was over 10 years ago.
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 12, 2009 15:30:05 GMT -5
Nothing new. And the fact that she told you that says ALOT about how these girls type think. They think that is cool and okay to do. I know a chapter who had to fight tooth and nail bc this chick's mom had the pres of her grad chapter write her recommendation. The very grad chapter who "mentors" the chapter. The girl went to NO programs and is mediocre ALL around. She didnt turn an app in. The RD made the chapter re-open the app deadline so she could get hers in and then reconsider more people TWICE just to make sure she got in. Well, they reconsidered twice and took two additional girls and not her....we'll see if this line even finishes b/c the girl and her mom are throwing a fit. SMH Thats the mess Im talking about. THEY DONT WANT YOU! And if she DOES get in, nobody will like her (they already dont)...why would you want to set your daughter up for failure like that? I love my sorority but I would love my daughter more and I wouldnt sacrifice her self-esteem, wellbeing, and peace of mind just so she can be in a sorority. That seems reckless to me. My friend is truly a nice, motivated, engaged young lady and I would not have viewed her as someone who feels "entitled" but she clearly did not see the issue with what she/her mother did. So, obviously, "others" would give her the side-eye, especially when you have the audacity to ask about applicant X, Y, and Z who made it but your "qualified" daughter didn't. I just listened to the story and wished her the best. I had no comments for the phonecalls to Nationals. ::shrugs:: She needs to ask the CHAPTER not the RD or Nationals. She didnt make line b/c she didnt get enough of the chapter vote....that's why. It not a difficult concept. ALOT of great nice, motivated, engaged people dont get into orgs, get jobs, get qualified to buy a home, get married, etc etc...people need to get over it. Just try again. There's MORE to being qualified than what you look like on paper....hence the term "paper".... uuugh...this makes my head hurts. lol |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 12, 2009 15:33:48 GMT -5
Priss me exGrad Advisor did that to her daughter. Her daughter said she didn't make it, my ExGA was confused b/c she's legacy - not realizing her daughter didn't want to puller her L card... Me exGA called the RD and made a big fuss - they added her and I 'm not sure what all they did, but let's say she has NEVER HAD ANYTHINg to do with AKA since and that was over 10 years ago. :-\ That's usually how it happens. You get a few who stick around but ALOT of women want it for the social aspect and the sisterhood...so why would you set someone up to just get some letters if she wanted more than just letters. People trying to force people to do things kills me. Dont tell a chapter their vote is final when its not. If thats the case, send all the applications to Nationals and let them do the dirty work. The whole point is the the chapter knows these people, not the phantom 85 year old soror sitting in HQ. Come on. I bet the tune would be different if THEY rejected people. Wouldnt be all this reconsideration nonsense. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 12, 2009 15:50:25 GMT -5
Priss me exGrad Advisor did that to her daughter. Her daughter said she didn't make it, my ExGA was confused b/c she's legacy - not realizing her daughter didn't want to puller her L card... Me exGA called the RD and made a big fuss - they added her and I 'm not sure what all they did, but let's say she has NEVER HAD ANYTHINg to do with AKA since and that was over 10 years ago. :-\ That's usually how it happens. You get a few who stick around but ALOT of women want it for the social aspect and the sisterhood...so why would you set someone up to just get some letters if she wanted more than just letters. People trying to force people to do things kills me. Dont tell a chapter their vote is final when its not. If thats the case, send all the applications to Nationals and let them do the dirty work. The whole point is the the chapter knows these people, not the phantom 85 year old soror sitting in HQ. Come on. I bet the tune would be different if THEY rejected people. Wouldnt be all this reconsideration nonsense. Exactly! How am I the first line of defense - when you tying my hands behind my back?? the system is NOT perfect- we are human and unfortunately we let our ugly sides show; some girls who deserve to get it, don't b/c of jealousy/rivalry/etc. - BUT - at least it's not a 1 time deal. If you don't make it - try again...if not UG try Grad. I will say, each Chapter has a right to do what's in the best interest of the Chapter. if that means - NOT letting a POTENTIAL problem in - then that's what it means. |
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Post by 123Diva on Mar 12, 2009 15:58:31 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL. I would have to agree. We don't. I don't really think men do either, but I see your point. |
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Post by Elegance1913 on Mar 13, 2009 18:39:07 GMT -5
What are the worst line names you've ever heard or seen on a jacket? Do you know they story behind them, if so please share. I'll start; I heard of a soror calling the RegDirec AND her mom was a lawyer too.  So, she got on - her names was "1-800-CALL PATTY" (Patty was the RegDs name)Her roomate - who had NOTHING to do with it got it bad to... "Sleeping With the Enemy" I know it ain't right, but that made me giggle. |
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Post by Elegance1913 on Mar 13, 2009 18:49:41 GMT -5
A lot of the derogatory line names go over the heads of non-Greeks but as Greeks we can sometimes figure them out...and because greeks will often share with each other. LOL! It's definitely easy to figure it out when the person doesn't have a name or number.....unlike their "cohort". |
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Post by Elegance1913 on Mar 13, 2009 19:06:02 GMT -5
If it winds up on their jacket, its because they put it on there themselve. At least in my chapter...our crossing shirts just had our numbers on them...again, b/c revealing our line names was a personal decision. So if you get a jacked up line name and put it on your jacket, welp....thats on you...certainly hope the chapter isnt going to waste money on that. I thought they were saying that some people were given jackets with these names on them. We had private names and public names. There were some things that we were called during our sessions that were based off activities that happened there. Before we crossed the Big Sisters would give us names that were suitable for our para. I hated my public name, it was just stupid I thought. I would have rather had my private name be my public name. I don't wear anything with my line name on it--of course I am about to celebrate 22 years at the end of this month so I guess I am getting to old for busy para anyway. Like emPRISS, our crossing gifts only had our numbers, but if they did use line names, I would have been OK. My line name isn't over the top but I'm cool with it...on the other hand, my aliases would never see the light of day on any para.  ;D |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 14, 2009 23:13:40 GMT -5
ahhahahahahahah BRUTAL fuckED UP. Legacy needs to be redefined and looked at with more respect. If someone goes before you and paves a way for you to be included, why would that be used to exclude you? We say we respect our founders who probably have some offspring somewhere around this country. Are we to treat them badly because of their relationship to our founders? In my career as a teacher, I met many kids who were brothers sisters, sons daughters of my previous students. I might have known some family history, but never used it against the kid unless he was just a pain in my a$$. To find out that a kid was a product of some previous students was no reason to premeditate on how I was going to treat him. "Oh here comes so n so, he's the son of Romeo. He won't stand a chance. I'm going to humiliate him every chance I get. WRONG!!!! He deserves the benefit of the doubt until he proves himself otherwise. We should welcome legacy and be glad that they wish to follow in the families' footsteps. I think it's jealousy which is an ugly trait and needs to be eradicated from our vocabulary. Okay, I'm done. This is freaking hilarious to me! |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 14, 2009 23:19:32 GMT -5
I can appreciate all that you said. You have seen both sides. I'm just saying that legacy needs a fighting chance. You are going to do all you can to make sure your daughter is not disrespected if she chooses to pursue AKA even if she has the feeling of entitlement. Growing up in the environment gives you an air of confidence, not cockiness. The cockiness should be dealt with as it rears its ugly head, not expected. Nah, I wouldnt fight tooth and nail for my daughter or any other family member interested in DST. THERE IN LIES THE PROBLEM! Mamas and aunties and grannies need to stay in their lanes. I will provide my daughter with the TOOLS she needs to get in and then it is up to her to do what she needs to do to get in. And if she faces some adversity...good...so did I. And I will prepare her, like in every other area of life, how to deal with it and how to deal with disappointment if she doesnt make it. Just like if she were interested in AKA, ZPB or SGRho. Life is full of disappointments and mommy will not, and should not, be there to allow you to skate through life. Parents like that make me sick. I see pursuing an org and pledging as a lifetime lesson. But thats just me. Tis why you are my e-twin. I couldn't have said this better myself. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 14, 2009 23:25:19 GMT -5
Some names I've seen on para that had me folks looking at them sideways because obviously they didn't see the insult:
Have You Seen Her
Didn't You Know
Bag Lady
Changing Lanes
Strictly By the Book
Babe (yeah, like the pig)
Bombs Over Baghdad
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 15, 2009 11:05:02 GMT -5
ROFL @ Have you Seen Her and Babe!
*DEAD*
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 15, 2009 11:48:36 GMT -5
Some names I've seen on para that had me folks looking at them sideways because obviously they didn't see the insult: Have You Seen Her Didn't You Know Bag Lady Changing Lanes I snickered! Strictly By the Book Babe (yeah, like the pig) Bombs Over Baghdad  ? |
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Post by **Dea** on Mar 15, 2009 15:04:40 GMT -5
damnit!!! I missed the argument about legacy people! DANG!!!!
All I got to say is......our former president was a legacy to the seat wasn't he? Granite, the president of the united states is a much higher position than member of XYZ but wouldn't it be fair to assume that the higher the postition the more respect and act-right the child should have in regards to that position and all that it entails?
I'm just saying, in my eyes Baby Bush is a GREAT example in how you shouldn't expect legacies to know anything! Some of them can be the sole distruction to the chapter or organization as a whole.
<====has personally seen lines full of legacies completely MURDER a chapter
<====can do nothing but shake her head and remember times when things were more selective.
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 15, 2009 16:58:11 GMT -5
damnit!!! I missed the argument about legacy people! DANG!!!! All I got to say is......our former president was a legacy to the seat wasn't he? Granite, the president of the united states is a much higher position than member of XYZ but wouldn't it be fair to assume that the higher the postition the more respect and act-right the child should have in regards to that position and all that it entails? I'm just saying, in my eyes Baby Bush is a GREAT example in how you shouldn't expect legacies to know anything! Some of them can be the sole distruction to the chapter or organization as a whole. <====has personally seen lines full of legacies completely MURDER a chapter <====can do nothing but shake her head and remember times when things were more selective. You better speak on that ma'am! Sometimes the people who shouldn't pull the legacy card, do, and make it in. Blows my mind. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 15, 2009 17:13:40 GMT -5
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 15, 2009 17:19:15 GMT -5
What are the worst line names you've ever heard or seen on a jacket? Do you know they story behind them, if so please share. I'll start; I heard of a soror calling the RegDirec AND her mom was a lawyer too. So, she got on - her names was "1-800-CALL PATTY" (Patty was the RegDs name)Her roomate - who had NOTHING to do with it got it bad to... "Sleeping With the Enemy" I know it ain't right, but that made me giggle. Like this huh Elegance...  - hee hee - ME TOO!! |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 15, 2009 19:32:57 GMT -5
I know it ain't right, but that made me giggle. Like this huh Elegance... - hee hee - ME TOO!! I sinckered at a couple myself.......but GUH-FAWED at a BUNCH! |
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Post by **Dea** on Mar 15, 2009 19:36:21 GMT -5
LOL! Yall are retarded!
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Mar 16, 2009 0:21:16 GMT -5
Whatever - NIGGUH - Gotta give credit where it's due - NOBODY is topping that example EVER!!!! |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 16, 2009 12:09:18 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL. LOL! Ain't that the truth!!! On this legacy issue...I had a good friend in college whose mother was big stuff on the AKA regional level. Now, while she was very quiet and humble during her initiation, when she crossed, she wore a jacket with "Born to Be AKA" on the back.  I thought it was kinda cool.  That whole "thing" of calling the RD, NP and anyone else who goes by an acronym when one doesn't make like seems to be an epidemic with sororities. When guys don't make it, they usually simply chalk it up to not doing well in the interview, not knowing enough members, etc. Afterwards, they simply get on with their day, and try again the next year....if at all. |
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Post by FatalDST on Mar 16, 2009 12:15:55 GMT -5
Women don't seem to take rejection very well, on any level...LOL. That whole "thing" of calling the RD, NP and anyone else who goes by an acronym when one doesn't make like seems to be an epidemic with sororities. When guys don't make it, they usually simply chalk it up to not doing well in the interview, not knowing enough members, or file a lawsuit saying they were hazed! fixed that for you im sorry, but most often in the news, it is frats... |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 18, 2009 14:16:39 GMT -5
damnit!!! I missed the argument about legacy people! DANG!!!! All I got to say is......our former president was a legacy to the seat wasn't he? Granite, the president of the united states is a much higher position than member of XYZ but wouldn't it be fair to assume that the higher the postition the more respect and act-right the child should have in regards to that position and all that it entails? I'm just saying, in my eyes Baby Bush is a GREAT example in how you shouldn't expect legacies to know anything! Some of them can be the sole distruction to the chapter or organization as a whole. <====has personally seen lines full of legacies completely MURDER a chapter <====can do nothing but shake her head and remember times when things were more selective. Buahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ::Flatline:: This is a great analogy! America went to hell in a handbasket by a legacy president! |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 18, 2009 14:18:24 GMT -5
Some names I've seen on para that had me folks looking at them sideways because obviously they didn't see the insult: Have You Seen Her Didn't You Know Bag Lady Changing Lanes I snickered! Strictly By the Book Babe (yeah, like the pig) Bombs Over Baghdad ? Bombs are what? Weapons of mass destruction. That is what they felt she is. |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 18, 2009 14:19:17 GMT -5
That whole "thing" of calling the RD, NP and anyone else who goes by an acronym when one doesn't make like seems to be an epidemic with sororities. When guys don't make it, they usually simply chalk it up to not doing well in the interview, not knowing enough members, or file a lawsuit saying they were hazed! fixed that for you im sorry, but most often in the news, it is frats... Fatal got a point. |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 18, 2009 14:54:27 GMT -5
Bombs are what? Weapons of mass destruction. That is what they felt she is. DAYUM! LMAO! |
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