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Post by water on Mar 4, 2008 14:42:36 GMT -5
Gay Christian Movement Watch gcmwatch.wordpress.com/Why we write this blog: Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. Matthew 7:15 NIV If any man infiltrates a fellowship of Yahshua with the purpose of spreading sin then shame on them . But we as Born again believers need not sin in our defense of the faith .Iif a man is gay ...will calling them a faggot help the situation . Foul language in the body of Yahshua is not cool. When you minister in prison do you call the homsexual prisoners faggots. Or do you just state that homosexuality is a sin that has to be dealt with like other sins such as sex outside of marriage, masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex.The Body of Yahshua is in a State of Emergency. But i am going to stay cool under pressure ....... If anybody is dealing with Homosexuality or have issues with ministering to homosexuals this is a good blog.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Mar 4, 2008 15:13:17 GMT -5
Well...
I'm not homosexual, but I am a Christian. And I think it's possible to be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding that. Can you be black and Christian? A woman and Christian? It's not the same, but the rationale is.
I don't think anyone should ever judge anybody! We all have something to be less than proud of, would you want anyone judging you?
Because of my biology background, I can argue for days and days about the genetic component of homosexuality. But I won't lol.
Why do you think that masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex is wrong? I think that's overinterpretation of the Bible.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 15:18:43 GMT -5
In the New Testament, Jude 1:7 (NASB) says:
“ Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 15:19:57 GMT -5
Well... I'm not homosexual, but I am a Christian. And I think it's possible to be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding that. Can you be black and Christian? A woman and Christian? It's not the same, but the rationale is. I don't think anyone should ever judge anybody! We all have something to be less than proud of, would you want anyone judging you? Because of my biology background, I can argue for days and days about the genetic component of homosexuality. But I won't lol. Why do you think that masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex is wrong? I think that's overinterpretation of the Bible.
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 15:44:24 GMT -5
This is interesting...
However, the Bible also states that "fornicators shall not inherit the kingdom of Heaven". Repent for your own sins before you condemn another individual for their sins.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 15:46:48 GMT -5
This is interesting... However, the Bible also states that "fornicators shall not inherit the kingdom of Heaven". Repent for your own sins before you condemn another individual for their sins. Were not talking about Fornicators....were talking Homosexuals... |
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 15:49:26 GMT -5
This is interesting... However, the Bible also states that "fornicators shall not inherit the kingdom of Heaven". Repent for your own sins before you condemn another individual for their sins. Were not talking about Fornicators....were talking Homosexuals... True, yet my point is this: if fornicators can still consider themselves to be Christians, then what's the big deal about homosexuals? Isn't fornication a sin? If commiting a sin bans someone from being a Christian, then I would venture to say that there are no true Christians walking this Earth. |
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Post by jay0heavenly on Mar 4, 2008 15:53:03 GMT -5
Well... I'm not homosexual, but I am a Christian. And I think it's possible to be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding that. Can you be black and Christian? A woman and Christian? It's not the same, but the rationale is. I don't think anyone should ever judge anybody! We all have something to be less than proud of, would you want anyone judging you? Because of my biology background, I can argue for days and days about the genetic component of homosexuality. But I won't lol. Why do you think that masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex is wrong? I think that's overinterpretation of the Bible. I hear what your saying my sister, but there are a myriad of scriptures which blatantly and expressly name homosexuality as %100 sin. I definitely was no Biology major, although through much prayer and travail I did manage to get a B in my 101 class  ...lol...but I can say without fear of successful contradiction that two men or two women are not physically compatible. Nature is God's greatest witness for this. No matter how "advanced" we think we are socially, the fact remains that anatomically speaking, sex between men and women is the Natural way. This is what Paul referred to in Romans 1. Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, Rom 1:27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. As to the point surrounding someone being simultaneously a homosexual and a Christian, this issue is also presented in the bible. Take 1 Corinthians for example. Here we have Paul unequivocally state that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 1Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. To say you can be both is against scripture... this is not a judgment on them any more than its a judgment on people in adultery, but the fact remains that God is not pleased with either. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 15:53:09 GMT -5
You CAN stop fornicating by getting married to the person you are fornicating with. (Lets assume that is the ONLY person you are sleeping with)
When your gay, your CONSTANTLY Living in the lifestyle, even if your married to that person
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 15:56:48 GMT -5
You CAN stop fornicating by getting married to the person you are fornicating with. (Lets assume that is the ONLY person you are sleeping with) When your gay, your CONSTANTLY Living in the lifestyle, even if your married to that person If that helps you sleep better at night, I won't argue with you! LOL! |
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Post by jay0heavenly on Mar 4, 2008 15:59:01 GMT -5
1Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
1Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 15:59:05 GMT -5
Well... I'm not homosexual, but I am a Christian. And I think it's possible to be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding that. Can you be black and Christian? A woman and Christian? It's not the same, but the rationale is. I don't think anyone should ever judge anybody! We all have something to be less than proud of, would you want anyone judging you? Because of my biology background, I can argue for days and days about the genetic component of homosexuality. But I won't lol. Why do you think that masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex is wrong? I think that's overinterpretation of the Bible. I hear what your saying my sister, but there are a myriad of scriptures which blatantly and expressly name homosexuality as %100 sin. I definitely was no Biology major, although through much prayer and travail I did manage to get a B in my 101 class ...lol...but I can say without fear of successful contradiction that two men or two women are not physically compatible. Nature is God's greatest witness for this. No matter how "advanced" we think we are socially, the fact remains that anatomically speaking, sex between men and women is the Natural way. This is what Paul referred to in Romans 1. Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, Rom 1:27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. As to the point surrounding someone being simultaneously a homosexual and a Christian, this issue is also presented in the bible. Take 1 Corinthians for example. Here we have Paul unequivocally state that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 1Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. To say you can be both is against scripture... this is not a judgment on them any more than its a judgment on people in adultery, but the fact remains that God is not pleased with either. Uruh Jay, that scripture lists a number of sins. So, would you say that anyone who commits any kind of sin will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven? Doesn't the Bible also state that the only unpardonable sin is the sin of blasphemy? |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 15:59:07 GMT -5
I'm just sayin man.....lol...I'm fornicating as well, but Its about to stop once I decide to propose...lol...
You, well YOU WILL STILL be gay...lol
j/k M_____
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 16:00:54 GMT -5
Wow, I didnt know that being Effeminate (Acting Sweet) was a sin as well..
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:01:19 GMT -5
I'm just sayin man.....lol...I'm fornicating as well, but Its about to stop once I decide to propose...lol... You, well YOU WILL STILL be gay...lol j/k M_____ Even when you get married Nupe, you will still be on the DL. LOL! |
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Post by jay0heavenly on Mar 4, 2008 16:01:34 GMT -5
@ Froze...those in the practice of those sins can ALWAYS repent i.e. truly turn around, not just say "God I'm sorry" and keep doing it. ANY repentant sinner is a-okay with God...period.
The "unpardonable sin" issue is a whole nother thread by itself... I'm still trying to grasp what it truly means and get a better view of the context.
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:02:05 GMT -5
Wow, I didnt know that being Effeminate (Acting Sweet) was a sin as well.. If you read the Bible closely, just about EVERYTHING is a sin. LOL! |
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:02:58 GMT -5
@ Froze...those in the practice of those sins can ALWAYS repent i.e. truly turn around, not just say "God I'm sorry" and keep doing it. ANY repentant sinner is a-okay with God...period. The "unpardonable sin" issue is a whole nother thread by itself... I'm still trying to grasp what it truly means and get a better view of the context. Cool...I was just wondering your opinion. |
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Post by 123Diva on Mar 4, 2008 16:03:04 GMT -5
Jay, I need you to go back to the thread about being saved and post your responses.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 16:06:11 GMT -5
Wow, I didnt know that being Effeminate (Acting Sweet) was a sin as well.. If you read the Bible closely, just about EVERYTHING is a sin. LOL! |
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:07:04 GMT -5
If you read the Bible closely, just about EVERYTHING is a sin. LOL! Let's keep your father out of this conversation!! |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 16:07:53 GMT -5
Yes including Glutany....you need to work on that man, being Fat AND Gay is not a good look...lol Let's keep your father out of this conversation!! |
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Post by Cambist on Mar 4, 2008 16:09:23 GMT -5
damn frat! You just said, "Ya Pappy"! damn!!
<<== trying to start something
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Mar 4, 2008 16:11:19 GMT -5
Well... I'm not homosexual, but I am a Christian. And I think it's possible to be homosexual and Christian simultaneously. I don't understand why people have such a hard time understanding that. Can you be black and Christian? A woman and Christian? It's not the same, but the rationale is. I don't think anyone should ever judge anybody! We all have something to be less than proud of, would you want anyone judging you? Because of my biology background, I can argue for days and days about the genetic component of homosexuality. But I won't lol. Why do you think that masturbation, oral sex, and anal sex is wrong? I think that's overinterpretation of the Bible. I hear what your saying my sister, but there are a myriad of scriptures which blatantly and expressly name homosexuality as %100 sin. I definitely was no Biology major, although through much prayer and travail I did manage to get a B in my 101 class ...lol...but I can say without fear of successful contradiction that two men or two women are not physically compatible. Nature is God's greatest witness for this. No matter how "advanced" we think we are socially, the fact remains that anatomically speaking, sex between men and women is the Natural way. This is what Paul referred to in Romans 1. Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, Rom 1:27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. As to the point surrounding someone being simultaneously a homosexual and a Christian, this issue is also presented in the bible. Take 1 Corinthians for example. Here we have Paul unequivocally state that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 1Corinthians 6:10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. To say you can be both is against scripture... this is not a judgment on them any more than its a judgment on people in adultery, but the fact remains that God is not pleased with either. One point you made that I really want to discuss is how two men and two women aren't compatible. I totally agree with you! It's anatomically impossible to create a child with two men or two women. Okay. Now, what about the people who were born with ambiguous sex organs? How about those who are born mutated? Is this not natural? Should we condemn them to hell because they were not born "natural"? All I'm saying is don't judge what another person decides to do with their life. It may be wrong, it may even be a sin, but get yourself right before you start to codemn others to hell. |
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 16:14:25 GMT -5
The bible doesnt speak on them, so neither do we. But it CLEARLY SAYS that homosexuality is a sin..
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:19:00 GMT -5
Nupey, did one of your ex-boyfriends dog you out or something? Is that why you are so against homosexuals?
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Post by Nupey on Mar 4, 2008 16:22:17 GMT -5
Nupey, did one of your ex-boyfriends dog you out or something? Is that why you are so against homosexuals? Well, I've never had a Boyfriend...Quit trying to place YOUR experiences on me man. Its not my fault FD left this board, You should've been to defend him he's your brother and bf. |
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Mar 4, 2008 16:22:52 GMT -5
lol I can always count on you for a laugh Frozen ;D
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Post by Robelite on Mar 4, 2008 16:23:27 GMT -5
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Post by frozenmenace on Mar 4, 2008 16:24:54 GMT -5
Nupey, did one of your ex-boyfriends dog you out or something? Is that why you are so against homosexuals? Well, I've never had a Boyfriend...Quit trying to place YOUR experiences on me man. Its not my fault FD left this board, You should've been to defend him he's bf. You know what, I think you had a crush on Frat D. You sure used to swing from his nutts enough. Go ahead Nupe, jump outta that closet. Go ahead and put on that Crimson dress and those Crimson stilettos you have hidden in the back of your closet. Be YOURSELF!! LOLOLOL! |
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...lol...but I can say without fear of successful contradiction that two men or two women are not physically compatible. Nature is God's greatest witness for this. No matter how "advanced" we think we are socially, the fact remains that anatomically speaking, sex between men and women is the Natural way.
