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Post by Treach on Jul 29, 2008 22:48:49 GMT -5
The speculators have started salivating...who will Obama give the V.P. nod to? It's actually a more complicated question than most think. Below is the short list of possibilities:
Top Tier- 1. Jim Webb 2. Hillary Clinton 3. Bill Richardson 4. Joe Biden 5. Brian Schwietzer
Worth Watching- 1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle
Honarable Mention- 1. Mike Bloomberg
If you don't know who these people are google them. My choice is actually a republican... Chuck Hagel. He's one of the more left leaning republicans. He is my pick because Obama says he wants to govern differently, He doesn't want to deal with non-bipartisanship and he wants to make sure that government works for americans and isn't stalled by political infighting. While all presidential candidates claim to want to work to that end, Obama has to opportunity to put his money where his mouth is. By choicing a republican as a running mate he will first be leading by example. Showing that at the highest level of Government both parties can work together. A republican would not be a party "Yes" man.....there would be a real balance in the executive branch. We don't know what the senate will look like over the next few years so having someone that is from the other side of the aisle would be an asset if the Senate happened to go Republican. On top of all that Hagel and Obama have landed on the same side of many issues in last couple of years. It would truly be history a black president with a republican running mate.
That is just my humble opinion. What do you all think? Who would you go with and why?
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 30, 2008 18:52:02 GMT -5
I saw your list was incomplete so I fixed it Top Tier- 1. LogAKAL Choice 2. Jim Webb 3. Hillary Clinton 4. Bill Richardson 5. Joe Biden 6. Brian Schwietzer Worth Watching- 1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle Honarable Mention- 1. Mike Bloomberg
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 30, 2008 19:02:57 GMT -5
The speculators have started salivating...who will Obama give the V.P. nod to? It's actually a more complicated question than most think. Below is the short list of possibilities: Top Tier-1. Jim Webb 2. Hillary Clinton 3. Bill Richardson 4. Joe Biden 5. Brian Schwietzer Worth Watching-1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle Honarable Mention-1. Mike Bloomberg If you don't know who these people are google them. My choice is actually a republican... Chuck Hagel. He's one of the more left leaning republicans. He is my pick because Obama says he wants to govern differently, He doesn't want to deal with non-bipartisanship and he wants to make sure that government works for americans and isn't stalled by political infighting. While all presidential candidates claim to want to work to that end, Obama has to opportunity to put his money where his mouth is. By choicing a republican as a running mate he will first be leading by example. Showing that at the highest level of Government both parties can work together. A republican would not be a party "Yes" man.....there would be a real balance in the executive branch. We don't know what the senate will look like over the next few years so having someone that is from the other side of the aisle would be an asset if the Senate happened to go Republican. On top of all that Hagel and Obama have landed on the same side of many issues in last couple of years. It would truly be history a black president with a republican running mate. That is just my humble opinion. What do you all think? Who would you go with and why? Hmmmm.... It's getting down to the wire. McCaine is sure to announce his prior to Obama. A few of the above mentioned front runners are interesting but on paper and platform, I'm going with Bill Richardson. Yes, he has flaws. Show me a qualified candidate that doesn't. However, I believe it will be Tim Kaine! He's not my choice and I'm a fellow VA resident. He's fairly strong on health issues and myriad of components that will compliment the ALL incoming platforms. Yes I said it! It's not a D or R campaign that's leading the pathway to change. Thoughts?
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Post by Treach on Jul 31, 2008 8:07:12 GMT -5
I saw your list was incomplete so I fixed it Top Tier- 1. LogAKAL Choice 2. Jim Webb 3. Hillary Clinton 4. Bill Richardson 5. Joe Biden 6. Brian Schwietzer Worth Watching- 1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle Honarable Mention- 1. Mike Bloomberg How could I forget the LogAKAL Choice. What's your platform?
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Post by Treach on Jul 31, 2008 8:32:36 GMT -5
The speculators have started salivating...who will Obama give the V.P. nod to? It's actually a more complicated question than most think. Below is the short list of possibilities: Top Tier-1. Jim Webb 2. Hillary Clinton 3. Bill Richardson 4. Joe Biden 5. Brian Schwietzer Worth Watching-1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle Honarable Mention-1. Mike Bloomberg If you don't know who these people are google them. My choice is actually a republican... Chuck Hagel. He's one of the more left leaning republicans. He is my pick because Obama says he wants to govern differently, He doesn't want to deal with non-bipartisanship and he wants to make sure that government works for americans and isn't stalled by political infighting. While all presidential candidates claim to want to work to that end, Obama has to opportunity to put his money where his mouth is. By choicing a republican as a running mate he will first be leading by example. Showing that at the highest level of Government both parties can work together. A republican would not be a party "Yes" man.....there would be a real balance in the executive branch. We don't know what the senate will look like over the next few years so having someone that is from the other side of the aisle would be an asset if the Senate happened to go Republican. On top of all that Hagel and Obama have landed on the same side of many issues in last couple of years. It would truly be history a black president with a republican running mate. That is just my humble opinion. What do you all think? Who would you go with and why? Hmmmm.... It's getting down to the wire. McCaine is sure to announce his prior to Obama. A few of the above mentioned front runners are interesting but on paper and platform, I'm going with Bill Richardson. Yes, he has flaws. Show me a qualified candidate that doesn't. However, I believe it will be Tim Kaine! He's not my choice and I'm a fellow VA resident. He's fairly strong on health issues and myriad of components that will compliment the ALL incoming platforms. Yes I said it! It's not a D or R campaign that's leading the pathway to change. Thoughts? Bill Richardson is an interesting choice but to me that would scream of politics as usual and so would Tim Kaine for that matter. Although I could actually see Richardson as president in 8 years. To me at this point change is relative....whether its Obama or McCain that get into the oval office there will be change the question is how much. McCain is by no stretch of the imagination a die hard republican so if he wins the pres. spot with a democratic congress we may still see some of the changes Obama wants to make.
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 31, 2008 8:49:48 GMT -5
Tell me this isn't so. McCaine has been in DC for years.... touting the same bullshyt during the Bush admin. So we're all VERY familiar with McCain... Hell he's not far off from Cheney! So please point out the "change" if McCain is in office... I'll take your .11 cents worth! Hmmmm.... It's getting down to the wire. McCaine is sure to announce his prior to Obama. A few of the above mentioned front runners are interesting but on paper and platform, I'm going with Bill Richardson. Yes, he has flaws. Show me a qualified candidate that doesn't. However, I believe it will be Tim Kaine! He's not my choice and I'm a fellow VA resident. He's fairly strong on health issues and myriad of components that will compliment the ALL incoming platforms. Yes I said it! It's not a D or R campaign that's leading the pathway to change. Thoughts? Bill Richardson is an interesting choice but to me that would scream of politics as usual and so would Tim Kaine for that matter. Although I could actually see Richardson as president in 8 years. To me at this point change is relative....whether its Obama or McCain that get into the oval office there will be change the question is how much. McCain is by no stretch of the imagination a die hard republican so if he wins the pres. spot with a democratic congress we may still see some of the changes Obama wants to make.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jul 31, 2008 9:04:05 GMT -5
The speculators have started salivating...who will Obama give the V.P. nod to? It's actually a more complicated question than most think. Below is the short list of possibilities: Top Tier-1. Jim Webb 2. Hillary Clinton 3. Bill Richardson 4. Joe Biden 5. Brian Schwietzer Worth Watching-1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom DaschleHonarable Mention-1. Mike Bloomberg If you don't know who these people are google them. My choice is actually a republican... Chuck Hagel. He's one of the more left leaning republicans. He is my pick because Obama says he wants to govern differently, He doesn't want to deal with non-bipartisanship and he wants to make sure that government works for americans and isn't stalled by political infighting. While all presidential candidates claim to want to work to that end, Obama has to opportunity to put his money where his mouth is. By choicing a republican as a running mate he will first be leading by example. Showing that at the highest level of Government both parties can work together. A republican would not be a party "Yes" man.....there would be a real balance in the executive branch. We don't know what the senate will look like over the next few years so having someone that is from the other side of the aisle would be an asset if the Senate happened to go Republican. On top of all that Hagel and Obama have landed on the same side of many issues in last couple of years. It would truly be history a black president with a republican running mate. That is just my humble opinion. What do you all think? Who would you go with and why? Please tell me your list isn't going by order of importance? LOL Tom Daschle would put Obama over the top easily. I have stated this since Jan. The former Majority and Minority Leader of the Senate is the easy choice if you ask me. Joe Biden? Hell naw just the racist sound bites that comes out of his mouth often should take him off the list quickly.
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 31, 2008 9:17:17 GMT -5
Please tell me your list isn't going by order of importance? LOL Tom Daschle would put Obama over the top easily. I have stated this since Jan. The former Majority and Minority Leader of the Senate is the easy choice if you ask me. Joe Biden? Hell naw just the racist sound bites that comes out of his mouth often should take him off the list quickly. <~~ Walks in and see VP
<~~ Pulls up a chair b-cuz this political discussion WILL BE GOOD!
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 31, 2008 12:27:16 GMT -5
Would love to know what impressed you about Jim Webb that you gave him the pole position. Hillary #2? Are you basing this one external pressure the party will apply or who the best running mate for Obama is? I agree with VP on Biden, loose cannon. Can't see him being president in 8 years. Love Richardson but don't think even the liberals are ready for the all minority ticket. What happened to my boy Sam Nunn:)?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 31, 2008 12:27:39 GMT -5
Jim Webb - would be an additional eye-poke to women voters still realing from Hillary's defeat. Just google Jim Webb and tailhook for those who don't remember.
Hillary Clinton - would be a simultaneous buoy and anchor. She helps you and hurts you all at the same time. With her you get the Clinton name - that's good - unfortunately - with her you also get the Clinton name - that's bad. And no that wasn't a typo.
Bill Ricahardson - would be a great VP for anyone - except - he isn't white. If you all have been following some of the threads in the entertainment section we have been talking about some white people's need to be seen as the hero and the victor. A double non-traditional ticket just doesn't seem viable because - despite all of his accomplishments the GOP will boil him down to being Latino. That is what they do - they appeal to the built in stupidity of their base. It is reliable and it is easily incited.
Joe Biden - good guy - doesn't necessarily have appeal to bring in a swing state and he's a bit old - but he has experience all over the place is generally well liked by many in the middle
Brian Schwietzer - could be a good pick. Comes from a traditionally reliabe Red State, will almost certainly espouse "values" that midwest swing staters can relate to. Maybe one to watch.
Janet Napolitano - another great choice for any candidate except a black man running as a Democrat. Ostensibly no different than Bill Richardson in this regard.
Sherrod Brown - little name recognition or national vetting - he does come from a swing state but he is considered very liberal - a curse word for republicans and some independents
Wesley Clark - a good choice - still hasn't been fully vetted and there are rumors about him being a bit rigid and inflexible (in the vein of Bush). I liked Clark in 2004, and I wanted him to get the nomination - but I'd be okay with this pick
Kathleen Sebelius - a rising star in Democratic ranks - she has delievered some flat and uninspiring speeches on the national stage - but if she doesn't make the cut this round, you should expect to see her in the mix of future politics - where Hillary failed this woman can actually succeed
Tom Daschle - another good choice - a bit long in the tooth as well (like Biden) but has been removed from D.C. for awhile, he's from the heart lands of America and has a wealth of experience...
Chuck Hagel - much more likely to be a cabinent member than a VP choice. If Obama wins - he will be apart of administration
Mike Bloomberg - probably a name more for show. In fact even having these lists is a way to get future democratic candidates some national shine and noteriety. He obviously can't pick them all, but he gives them additional gravitas by even being mentioned. I honestly don't think Obama will have problems with the Jewish vote, but if Bloomberg was on his ticket, I think despite the powerful GOP machinery in FL, that Barack would take FL
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Post by Treach on Jul 31, 2008 14:15:41 GMT -5
All of your thoughts on who should be on the ticket are just as valid as mine. I like what DamieQue had to say about each potential V.P. candidate it was pretty insightful. I figure a pro/con list is warranted. By the way ...the list isn't in any particular order.
Jim Webb Webb is the closest thing to a frontrunner for Obama's VP slot back in the spring anyway. A former Republican, he served as Secretary of the Navy for Ronald Reagan. Webb defeated George "Macaca" Allen to become a junior senator in Virginia.
Pro: Webb is a good foil for Obama's post-partisan message, and he's got the military credentials to match up with John McCain. He's good at playing the attack dog, which will let Obama take the high road. And he's from trending-blue Virginia, which would be a great pickup in November for Democrats. He's also pro-guns.
Con: Webb can be a little out-of-control as attack dogs go.
Hillary Clinton This ticket is either a dream or a nightmare. Some see it as the only way to reunite the Democrats in time for November. Other see it as the fastest way to destroy the Obama brand.
Pro: Strong appeal with working class voters and women.
Con: See Iraq War vote, Bill Clinton in South Carolina, and the month of March.
Bill Richardson You know him, you love him; he's the New Mexico governor with a heart of gold, a cool mustache, and thanks to James Carville.....a new nickname.
Pro: You've heard them all before. A foreign policy resume a mile long, executive experience, and a lock with Hispanic voters. And he picked Obama, despite his Clinton ties.
Con: Did you watch any of the debates?
Joe Biden He is Mr. Foreign Policy. He also claims the best line of the primary season thus far. Too bad no one told Iowans he was running for President.
Pro: He trumps any foreign policy claims that McCain brings to the table. He can hit McCain hard.
Con: He tends to hit everyone hard. And he's a Washington figure, which could hurt a campaign running against Washington.
Brian Schwietzer Never heard of him? You should. Schweitzer has been Montana's governor since 2005, and is currently one of the most popular governors in the country.
Pro: In addition to his executive experience, Schweitzer has spent a good amount of time around the world (including the Middle East) in his former life as an irrigation developer. His popularity and his pro-gun stance could help Obama in the Mountain West area. He also refused PAC and special interest money during his 2004 campaign. He's also criticized the economic consequences of the Iraq War, an approach that Obama has recently adopted.
Con: Despite his travels, he has no official foreign policy experience. He also doesn't bring in any delegates from his own state (though that could be offset if he helps in places like North Dakota, Wyoming and Colorado).
Janet Napolitano Another popular Western governor, Napolitano has settled into a second term in McCain's very red home state. She also backed Obama early in the race.
Pros: She has proven her executive capacity in Republican territory, as well as the Southwest, which will help sway Obamicans. A female candidate could also help reunite the Democrats.
Con: Her stance on immigration could prove costly among Hispanic voters.
Sherrod Brown Brown is a favorite among progressives for his economic populism and outspoken criticism of the war.
Pro: Could help deliver an important swing state.
Con: Doesn't really satisfy the idea of a unity ticket.
Chuck Hagel A Republican senator who has fought with Bush tooth and nail over the Iraq war, Hagel is one of three Republicans who voted with the Democrats over a withdrawal plan. He also has served on the Banking, Foreign Relations and Intelligence Committees. Hagel has also said he's considering endorsing Sen. Obama.
Pro: Broad Senate experience. A living embodiment of Obama's commitment to work with like-minded Republicans. Also is a veteran with experience in Reagan's administration
Con: He is still a Republican (especially on abortion and health care), which would not sit well with a lot of Democrats.
Wesley Clark Rhodes Scholar turned four-star general and once-presidential candidate. A star resource for Democrats on military affairs.
Pro: John McCain would have to salute him. And he has Southern appeal.
Con: Backed Clinton early and has been a very active surrogate. Not always the best politician on a national stage.
Kathleen Sebelius Talk about reaching across the aisle. This Kansas governor convinced a Republican to leave his party, become a Democrat, and run as her lieutenant governor. Kansas is rife with stories of Republicans undergoing conversions, and Sebelius gets a good amount of credit for this.
Pro: Another Red-state governor with an excellent post-partisan record. Having a female VP could be a strong ticket.
Con: Sebelius didn't wow anyone with her response to the State of the Union, which raises questions about how she would do on the national stage. And her location in Kansas doesn't add much that Obama doesn't already get from Illinois.
Tom Daschle The former South Dakota senator, Daschle has been a strong supporter of Obama's campaign; he's a national co-chair and is rumored to play a big part in the campaign strategy.
Pro: Can bring in votes from his home state.
Con: Weak campaigner: he lost his Senate seat while he was the sitting Majority Leader.
Mike Bloomberg Sure, most voters have never heard of him. And sure, he's never been a national player. But the current mayor of New York has been a darling of the media, as they spent months seeing if he would get into the Presidential race. Coupled with some private conversations with Obama that caused a tizzy in the fall, a Bloomberg candidacy could cause some media attention that would rival that of even John McCain.
Pros: Excellent economic record. Interested in policy minutiae. Post-partisan (former Republican switched to Independent). Media darling.
Cons: Unheard of outside his home state. It's tough not to seem like an elitist when the world 'billionaire' applies to you.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 31, 2008 14:25:03 GMT -5
*pops popcorn and grabs a comfy chair*
*preps to watch the dueling SMARTY ART negroes debate picks*
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Post by jay0heavenly on Jul 31, 2008 15:12:38 GMT -5
Top Tier- 1. Jim Webb 2. Hillary Clinton No thanks to Billary 3. Bill Richardson Ain't no way in the world Amerikkka will elect a ticket with Obama AND a Mexican. 4. Joe Biden 5. Brian Schwietzer
Worth Watching- 1. Janet Napolitano 2. Sherrod Brown 3. Chuck Hagel 4. Wesley Clark 5. Kathleen Sebelius 6. Tom Daschle
Honarable Mention- 1. Mike Bloomberg Being from NY I'm in Bloomberg Country and I don't like this guy. Just another slimy politician.
Very interesting.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 31, 2008 16:07:05 GMT -5
Ummm...I am upset that I am NOT on Damie and Treaches list!! OK, I'm not going to reveal everything just yet.... BUT... My Health Platform: Free Rubbing Alcohol, Peroxide, Campho-Phenique, Q-Tips and Band-Aids for everyone ;D Gas is going down to $1.90 8/10 per gallon! ALL Text Books are $10 each ALL White people will be called European-Americans. That's all for now...
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 31, 2008 16:19:49 GMT -5
Hmmmm... this platform sounds Southie. I'd like to hear more.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 31, 2008 17:30:36 GMT -5
It was also interesting to see the number of folks that pulled themselves out of the running pre-emptively - prime example... Ted Strickland Governor of Ohio.
Also another name that hasn't been mentioned much is Ed Rendell Governor of Pennsylvania. I know Obama can potentially carry those states without either Governor - but even though he's ahead in the polls right now we need to be mindful of:
The Bradely/Wilder Effect
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 31, 2008 18:05:59 GMT -5
Hmmmm... this platform sounds Southie. I'd like to hear more. I will also be provding reperations for African Americans by extracting funds from such companies as: COTTON---The Touch the Feel...it's the Fabric of our lives<~~You will pay dearly All Tobacco Companies...and especially those who sell Menthol--they will pay twice Koolaid<~~WHY? One Word...Diabetes BET<~~Explaination Unneccesary Carnival Cruise Lines<~~Word on the streets is, they provided the Slave Ships Cadillac<~~C'Mon! Nike<~~And every other Shoe Manufacturer selling $30 shoes for over $100 etc. Also I'll be hemming up a few other minor companies who have preyed on Black people such as Rent-A-Center/Rent-To-Own Rent-A-Rim Nix Check Cashing Verizon/AT&T/Sprint/PacBell etc <~~For overchrging on collect calls from Prison I need to get with my campaign manager so I can get this all squared away...but I am taking contributions now!! LOL
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Post by Treach on Aug 1, 2008 8:31:47 GMT -5
Tell me this isn't so. McCaine has been in DC for years.... touting the same bullshyt during the Bush admin. So we're all VERY familiar with McCain... Hell he's not far off from Cheney! So please point out the "change" if McCain is in office... I'll take your .11 cents worth! Bill Richardson is an interesting choice but to me that would scream of politics as usual and so would Tim Kaine for that matter. Although I could actually see Richardson as president in 8 years. To me at this point change is relative....whether its Obama or McCain that get into the oval office there will be change the question is how much. McCain is by no stretch of the imagination a die hard republican so if he wins the pres. spot with a democratic congress we may still see some of the changes Obama wants to make. McCain is far and I do mean far from Cheney. The only issue that would cause anyone to draw comparisons is the war in Iraq aka (The occupation of IRAQ). McCain has voted with Dems on the Stem Cell issue, Immigration Reform Act just to name a couple. While he is still very much a republican he is pretty left leaning on quite a few of the issues.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 1, 2008 12:30:58 GMT -5
Tell me this isn't so. McCaine has been in DC for years.... touting the same bullshyt during the Bush admin. So we're all VERY familiar with McCain... Hell he's not far off from Cheney! So please point out the "change" if McCain is in office... I'll take your .11 cents worth! McCain is far and I do mean far from Cheney. The only issue that would cause anyone to draw comparisons is the war in Iraq aka (The occupation of IRAQ). McCain has voted with Dems on the Stem Cell issue, Immigration Reform Act just to name a couple. While he is still very much a republican he is pretty left leaning on quite a few of the issues. I agree to some extent in this assessment. But I would add that of the most egregious errors of the Bush administration - the two that McCain still married himself to (even with the benefit of hindsight) was the Iraq war and tax cuts benefitting the very rich during the time of war. We probably should exepct no less from Bush, a C+ student who has advanced almost entirely by riding his father's coat tails, managing to fail "upwards" in EVERY position he's ever held - but what's McCain's excuse? I have no interest in seeing George Bush's collosal fiasco being artificially perpeutated through a surrogate - who can only win by endorsing ideas, policies, and strategies, that he had previously opposed.
McCain can only win by promising to continue on Bush's legacy of a "strength through ignorance" and "victory through refusal to acknowledge error", ALL while promising not to be Bush. What type of Tom-Foolery is that? If you don't agree with Bush - then plot your own course. You cannot disagree with this agenda and the execution thereof - but then STILL follow it but expect to get the benefit of the doubt on past voting records. That's my opinion.
If McCain can't stick to his Maverick principles now - there's no reason to believe he would do so as President
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Post by Treach on Aug 1, 2008 13:19:41 GMT -5
McCain is far and I do mean far from Cheney. The only issue that would cause anyone to draw comparisons is the war in Iraq aka (The occupation of IRAQ). McCain has voted with Dems on the Stem Cell issue, Immigration Reform Act just to name a couple. While he is still very much a republican he is pretty left leaning on quite a few of the issues. I agree to some extent in this assessment. But I would add that of the most egregious errors of the Bush administration - the two that McCain still married himself to (even with the benefit of hindsight) was the Iraq war and tax cuts benefitting the very rich during the time of war. We probably should exepct no less from Bush, a C+ student who has advanced almost entirely by riding his father's coat tails, managing to fail "upwards" in EVERY position he's ever held - but what's McCain's excuse? I have no interest in seeing George Bush's collosal fiasco being artificially perpeutated through a surrogate - who can only win by endorsing ideas, policies, and strategies, that he had previously opposed.
McCain can only win by promising to continue on Bush's legacy of a "strength through ignorance" and "victory through refusal to acknowledge error", ALL while promising not to be Bush. What type of Tom-Foolery is that? If you don't agree with Bush - then plot your own course. You cannot disagree with this agenda and the execution thereof - but then STILL follow it but expect to get the benefit of the doubt on past voting records. That's my opinion.
If McCain can't stick to his Maverick principles now - there's no reason to believe he would do so as President For the most part I wholeheartedly agree with you. McCain has a tremendous dilemma ahead, If he sticks to his Maverick principles then he runs a tremendous risk of alienating his base. He needs that rep. base if he wants to make a real run at the white house. Unfortunately for McCain the incumbents "brand" is a detriment to his campaign. Mark my words if/when McCain loses this election look for him to change parties within 2 years.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 1, 2008 13:59:54 GMT -5
I agree to some extent in this assessment. But I would add that of the most egregious errors of the Bush administration - the two that McCain still married himself to (even with the benefit of hindsight) was the Iraq war and tax cuts benefitting the very rich during the time of war. We probably should exepct no less from Bush, a C+ student who has advanced almost entirely by riding his father's coat tails, managing to fail "upwards" in EVERY position he's ever held - but what's McCain's excuse? I have no interest in seeing George Bush's collosal fiasco being artificially perpeutated through a surrogate - who can only win by endorsing ideas, policies, and strategies, that he had previously opposed.
McCain can only win by promising to continue on Bush's legacy of a "strength through ignorance" and "victory through refusal to acknowledge error", ALL while promising not to be Bush. What type of Tom-Foolery is that? If you don't agree with Bush - then plot your own course. You cannot disagree with this agenda and the execution thereof - but then STILL follow it but expect to get the benefit of the doubt on past voting records. That's my opinion.
If McCain can't stick to his Maverick principles now - there's no reason to believe he would do so as President For the most part I wholeheartedly agree with you. McCain has a tremendous dilemma ahead, If he sticks to his Maverick principles then he runs a tremendous risk of alienating his base. He needs that rep. base if he wants to make a real run at the white house. Unfortunately for McCain the incumbents "brand" is a detriment to his campaign. Mark my words if/when McCain loses this election look for him to change parties within 2 years. I don't even mean this as a jab or a joke at McCain, but he is already at the threshold of male life expectancy - we will be lucky to have him around in 2 years - President or not. I do agree with you that this IS indeed a "Change" election cycle... a fact which Hillary Clinton failed to recognize to her detriment.
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