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Post by No Screen Name on Jul 29, 2008 13:23:28 GMT -5
Do you think there will be any fallout? Will young or Black voters feel frustrated and abandon the political process? Will riots actually break out? Or will it be just another day?
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 29, 2008 13:40:10 GMT -5
yes, yes, no, not really
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Post by Bunny Hop on Jul 29, 2008 14:11:45 GMT -5
I'm taking a day off
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Post by Bigs on Jul 29, 2008 14:13:58 GMT -5
If he doesn't win then oh well....... now if he was somehow screwed out of the democratic nomination.... then thats a different story
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Post by Champs Elysees on Jul 29, 2008 18:34:52 GMT -5
Life will continue as usual. The people who were sincere about doing what they can to make things better will continue while the blowhards and fakers will fall off as usual.
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Post by No Screen Name on Jul 29, 2008 19:25:00 GMT -5
I ain't gonna lie...I would be CRUSHED.  Win or lose, I'm taking a couple of days off work. Win--go to DC and see him sworn in. Lose--take a couple of days to mope at home. |
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Post by Treach on Jul 29, 2008 22:10:07 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if Obama loses the election by a small margin many young and black voters will abandon the election process. I think thats primarily because the process is truly still mystery to most voters. If it's a close election, don't be surprised if Obama wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college....and for all intensive purposes the electoral college is all that counts. My suggestion GET OUT TO VOTE!!! A high voter turnout is what Obama needs to solidify a win.
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 29, 2008 23:39:59 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if Obama loses the election by a small margin many young and black voters will abandon the election process. I think thats primarily because the process is truly still mystery to most voters. If it's a close election, don't be surprised if Obama wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college....and for all intensive purposes the electoral college is all that counts. My suggestion GET OUT TO VOTE!!! A high voter turnout is what Obama needs to solidify a win. Agreed! Here's a question... How do you suppose the voting process can be demystified in an effort to increase voter participation among African Americans? |
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Post by Kryptik on Jul 29, 2008 23:45:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if Obama loses the election by a small margin many young and black voters will abandon the election process. I think thats primarily because the process is truly still mystery to most voters. If it's a close election, don't be surprised if Obama wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college....and for all intensive purposes the electoral college is all that counts. My suggestion GET OUT TO VOTE!!! A high voter turnout is what Obama needs to solidify a win. Agreed! Here's a question... How do you suppose the voting process can be demystified in an effort to increase voter participation among African Americans? I would start by really explaining the "electoral college" concept. i know that I had studied it in school, but never really considered it when voting until the whole Bush fiasco. |
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Post by Treach on Jul 29, 2008 23:49:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately, if Obama loses the election by a small margin many young and black voters will abandon the election process. I think thats primarily because the process is truly still mystery to most voters. If it's a close election, don't be surprised if Obama wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college....and for all intensive purposes the electoral college is all that counts. My suggestion GET OUT TO VOTE!!! A high voter turnout is what Obama needs to solidify a win. Agreed! Here's a question... How do you suppose the voting process can be demystified in an effort to increase voter participation among African Americans? Good question.....unfortunately the process is so backwards now that demystifing it at this point maybe just that pointless. The process actually needs to be changed. The electoral college while a good idea...we've seen from the 2000 election that it just doesn't work. What we need is for the president to be elected by popular vote. In order to truly accomplish this the process for registering to vote and casting your vote needs to be alot more simple. Gone are the days of trying to find your polling location...voting should be able to be done at the supermarket or post office. Registering to vote would be easier than getting a Driver License. While changes like that would be costly the end result would make for a truly FAIR election. I hope i wasn't rambling. |
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 30, 2008 0:03:07 GMT -5
No, you brought up a good point and the "change" is actually embedded in the statement.
The benefit of implementing said changes are far greater then the total cost. The short term impact? While I agree it's an exercise in futility,the long term will provide more than just utility and access. I can readily see this expanding far beyond our culture and ignorance of the voting process. It will have an impact across the board. Is that not worth it?
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Post by Robelite on Jul 30, 2008 8:59:47 GMT -5
There is ONE thing that worries me about the upcoming election...
and that is REGISTERED VOTERS!
We know that the democratic primary brought new and first-time voters out in numbers unlike anything this nation has seen in the last 40-45 years, HOWEVER, there are STILL a large number of people (mostly black) that are not registered to vote. We've got to get those folks registered, and then get them to the polls!
If ever our "A Voteless People is a Hopeless People" campaign was more appropriate than it will be in this election! The repubbas are looking for a way...any way....to derail Obama's momentum. As you can see, they have resorted to the same backwater lies and dirty pool that they've played in the last couple of elections. Problem for them is that this time, it's not working, so they will be looking to go to Plan B...stealing another election!
We've got to get our folks out...especially our college students! They'll need to put the Playstations and NSPs down for at least ONE DAY and get out and exercise their rights!!
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Post by No Screen Name on Jul 30, 2008 9:14:59 GMT -5
Another thing, Robelite--HISTORICALLY, young, first-time registered voters have *NEVER* come through for a candidate. They will register, but when it comes time to actually VOTE, they lose interest.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 30, 2008 9:17:38 GMT -5
Some argue the purpose of the electoral college was to:
1. Protect Smaller States
2. To protect the PEOPLE from themselves
If you go by a popular vote, NUMEROUS STATES have no influence whatsoever over the election process. You would focus on New York, California, Texas, Florida, Ohio, and maybe Pennsylvania - the rest of the states would largely be spectators. And Lord only knows, if a politician has nothing to gain from you - then he has little motivation to do ANYTHING for you.
To the 2nd point, the electoral college is not bound to follow the vote of a state. They usually do - but as far as I'm aware they are not required to. I think after the past 8 years of this fisasco called George Bush - we can do away with the belief that the electoral college protects us from ourselves. They should be done away with. The electoral votes should be winner take all - but their apportionment should stay the same - otherwise 30-40 states won't matter at ALL in any election; their populations just won't be large enough to matter
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Post by Treach on Jul 30, 2008 13:02:54 GMT -5
No, you brought up a good point and the "change" is actually embedded in the statement. The benefit of implementing said changes are far greater then the total cost. The short term impact? While I agree it's an exercise in futility,the long term will provide more than just utility and access. I can readily see this expanding far beyond our culture and ignorance of the voting process. It will have an impact across the board. Is that not worth it? I think its very much worth it. Get everyone truly involved in the process. |
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Post by Treach on Jul 30, 2008 13:11:54 GMT -5
Some argue the purpose of the electoral college was to:
1. Protect Smaller States
2. To protect the PEOPLE from themselves
If you go by a popular vote, NUMEROUS STATES have no influence whatsoever over the election process. You would focus on New York, California, Texas, Florida, Ohio, and maybe Pennsylvania - the rest of the states would largely be spectators. And Lord only knows, if a politician has nothing to gain from you - then he has little motivation to do ANYTHING for you.
To the 2nd point, the electoral college is not bound to follow the vote of a state. They usually do - but as far as I'm aware they are not required to. I think after the past 8 years of this fisasco called George Bush - we can do away with the belief that the electoral college protects us from ourselves. They should be done away with. The electoral votes should be winner take all - but their apportionment should stay the same - otherwise 30-40 states won't matter at ALL in any election; their populations just won't be large enough to matter After thinking it over I have to agree with you on the 2nd point. The electoral votes should be a winner take all but If that were the case today and the election were held today we'd be talking about President McCain. |
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 30, 2008 13:24:52 GMT -5
^^ To think of it... McCain IS ahead in electoral votes but given the process as is (lol).  OBAMA WILL take that oath in Jan 2009 man! :-) |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 30, 2008 13:38:17 GMT -5
www.electoral-vote.com/
Actually according to some average polls - Obama would win and win handily. It depends on what polls you believe |
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Post by No Screen Name on Jul 30, 2008 13:50:24 GMT -5
OBAMA WILL take that oath in Jan 2009 man! :-) IN JESUS' NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Post by DSTspr98 on Jul 30, 2008 13:58:21 GMT -5
OBAMA WILL take that oath in Jan 2009 man! :-) IN JESUS' NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by GodsStarChild on Jul 31, 2008 16:04:08 GMT -5
if Obama doesn't win i'm joining the New Black Panther Party and overthrowing the government.
*fist in air*
(i know the man is watching, just kidding)
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Post by chatterbox on Aug 9, 2008 12:45:39 GMT -5
I can see our people loosing interest in politics if Obama doesn't win, specifically those who are voting for him solely because he is black. Their interest was never really rooted in politics. It would be based SOLELY on the excitement of being apart of a historical event. While there is nothing wrong with those sentiments, there decision to vote is purely emotion driven. So if their candidate loose, the likelihood of those voters voting diminishes because they were "hurt" by the process...Case in point...those dayum whiney azz HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTERS...
I am SOOOO FED UP with hearing about Hillary Clinton supporters "threatening" this man to make Hillary VP... or else they won't vote for him, subsequently leading to a loss in November. WHO DA F@*#K do these people think they are?!!
People TRIP ME OUT! The future of this country is AT STAKE and we have sour grape azz people who are willing to vote for McCain, not because they believe he is the better candidate but because their nominee didn't win. EVEN THO their nominee ran a similar platform as OBAMA from jump! Worst YET, some of these sour grapers said they won't even VOTE (drops dead...comes back) yeah...some of these raisnettes say they won't even VOTE...
Sorry about the rant...
We need to educate our community on the political process. Not just register folx because as one poster mentioned some of them loose interest by November. I think they loose interest because they never understood the purpose nor did they understand the process!! Our people (specifically the youths) need to understand HOW politics affect their lives so they could appreciate how vital a role they play in it.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Aug 9, 2008 14:18:44 GMT -5
I definitely AGREE with you on this. I think a large percent of Blacks would acquire a very defeated mentality towards our ability to make a difference |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Aug 12, 2008 22:12:35 GMT -5
There's going to be some furniture moving in DC if he doesn't win. I'm staying home.
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Post by No Screen Name on Aug 12, 2008 22:20:33 GMT -5
*whispers* If some riots break out...I might see can I get me a flat-screen TV...that'll be my way of stickin' it to "The Man". |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Aug 12, 2008 22:25:54 GMT -5
*whispers*
Me too...and groceries...nah, imma hit up the gas station. yea, that's the ticket!
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Post by MochaD on Aug 13, 2008 7:29:44 GMT -5
OBAMA WILL take that oath in Jan 2009 man! :-) CoSigns!!! ....but if he doesn't, I'M MOVING TO CANADA!!!! |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Aug 14, 2008 14:53:31 GMT -5
OBAMA WILL take that oath in Jan 2009 man! :-) CoSigns!!! ....but if he doesn't, I'M MOVING TO CANADA!!!! Then we are going to be neighbors. LOL! |
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