happy1
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Post by happy1 on Jul 2, 2008 9:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Jul 2, 2008 9:49:15 GMT -5
I think he should have been prosecuted.
But what can you expect from Texas, that state is full of play cowboys. This is the state that gave us George Bush.
Seriously though, I think it was because he was an old white guy and the burglars were illegal aliens. If he had been a black man and the burglars were white, he would have been indicted.
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 2, 2008 10:03:36 GMT -5
I think he should have been prosecuted as well. He had called 911. The neighbor was not home. They were leaving. Neither he or anyone else was in immediate danger. There was no need for him to shoot anybody.
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Post by 123Diva on Jul 2, 2008 10:12:37 GMT -5
I hate Texas.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Jul 2, 2008 13:39:29 GMT -5
Roland says, "Yes, the law was on Horn's side, whether he knew that or not when he fired. But when does our core decency come in when we make such life-altering decisions in a snap?" I missed the part where a law supported this. i thought the law said you could shoot if someone enters YOUR property, not leaves another's? I remember a case where a dude was prosecuted because the perp kicked the front door in put didn't clear the threshhold so they said he technically wasn't in the house. This is some unsupported bull shick here. And I guess because he wasn't even indicted, the chances of winning a civil wrongful death suit are slim.
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Post by 123Diva on Jul 2, 2008 15:12:55 GMT -5
dst, I think Texas law has a provision for protecting your neighbors property.
However, in my opinion, dude is still at fault because he basically told the operator what he was going to do and no life (his or that if his neighbors') was in immeidate danger.
He is DEAD wrong. This is premeditated murder.
For stuff like this, Texas sucks, for real.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jul 2, 2008 15:31:26 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you have ever spent time in Texas but some of them folks take it to a WHOLE 'NOTHER level - especially the Armchair gun man.
If you ask me, that dude wasn't concerned about protecting property - he just finally saw an opportunity to shoot someone and so he did it.
If they had been climbing out of that other person's house holding heat too I bet he wouldn't have been so hot to go out there and play cowboy.
These are the kinds of people you are dealing with OO... and THEY get to vote too.
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Post by Champs Elysees on Jul 3, 2008 18:45:20 GMT -5
My opinion is split on this. I am not one for everyone holding, but crime is out of hand! There was a case in FL a couple years ago when some guys broke into a man's house and he killed one (or them). I would have done the same.
There is a provision in Texas law which says a neighbor can protect in property, but this man's actions still weren't covered under it.
Honestly, my real problem with this case is that when a black person does this to whites, they will be prosecuted, although this incident will be a precedent.
In FL, we can now carry firearms to work as long as they are in our vehicles and now in GA, you can carry them everywhere. People should be able to defend themselves and their neighbor's property! The law often falls short.  shit, kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.
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Post by denounced on Jul 3, 2008 21:11:32 GMT -5
After listening to the call, I think he made a serious error in judgment, but so did those guys. Anyone unwilling to OBEY your every command while staring down the barrel of a gun renders you a clear cut fool. If someone tells me to drop to my knees or they will shoot, I don't need any help. Only in Texas.....Probably so!
I would have to see the autopsy report. If he shot them in the back, let a jury decide.
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Post by denounced on Jul 3, 2008 21:13:36 GMT -5
But I will say what a supervisor always told me, you weren't there, you don't know. In other words, your opinions mean nothing. Only the judge and jury have the right to decide his fate, if it had gotten that far.
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 4, 2008 9:47:52 GMT -5
"If someone tells me to drop to my knees or they will shoot, I don't need any help. " (Denounced)
Is that what happened?
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Post by denounced on Jul 4, 2008 12:20:32 GMT -5
Did I say it was? No I did not. Read the sentence before that. I could come up with many ways to say that differently and mean exactly the same thing. Who's to say they would have listened if he had a badge with his gun?
Let's make this easy. Forget all the possible scenraios. They were breaking the law, he was not- Case Closed!
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Post by denounced on Jul 4, 2008 12:30:03 GMT -5
After listening to the call, I think he made a serious error in judgment, but so did those guys. Anyone unwilling to OBEY your every command while staring down the barrel of a gun renders you a clear cut fool. If someone tells me to drop to my knees or they will shoot, I don't need any help. Only in Texas.....Probably so! I would have to see the autopsy report. If he shot them in the back, let a jury decide. I see a jury did decide. Case Closed as of right now....... I heard CNN's tape, and the law governing his actions. If he had gone to trial.................  |
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Post by denounced on Jul 4, 2008 12:31:00 GMT -5
Abortion of a child. PERFECTLY LEGAL IN ALL 50 STATES |
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 4, 2008 16:26:28 GMT -5
Did I say it was? No I did not. Read the sentence before that. I could come up with many ways to say that differently and mean exactly the same thing. Who's to say they would have listened if he had a badge with his gun? Let's make this easy. Forget all the possible scenraios. They were breaking the law, he was not- Case Closed! I was just asking. I thought you had information from another source that information was not included in the link. If you knew something that would change my opinion, I wanted the option to do so. That's all. I reread your response and, maybe I am slow, but I don't see anything that suggests that what you were saying was a possible scenario. And, perhaps I am reading too much into your response, but it appears a bit defensive to me. It's not that serious to me. Your right the case is closed and nothing we say on here is going to change that. Judging from some of the other topics on this board, that does not preclude a person from having an opinion about it. |
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Post by denounced on Jul 4, 2008 20:07:52 GMT -5
I still say that HTML is the worst form of communication and that's why I leave my number. My get on your kness comment was serious satirization, if there is such a thing.
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Post by what on Jul 4, 2008 21:01:26 GMT -5
I live near where the incident happened, and quite honestly I think he wasn't wrong...and I'm black. I'm sorry if I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house and they SAW me even if they turned to run, I would feel threatened and I would shoot too....just out of mere fear because I wouldn't know if they were coming back or not. Plus, I'm gangster like that :grin:. Further comments later.
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 4, 2008 21:48:38 GMT -5
I still say that HTML is the worst form of communication and that's why I leave my number. My get on your kness comment was serious satirization, if there is such a thing. Okay. This is all you had to say when I asked. I asked because I wanted to be sure I understood what you were saying. It is obvious I did not. Now I do. |
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Post by Highly Favored on Jul 4, 2008 21:57:25 GMT -5
I live near where the incident happened, and quite honestly I think he wasn't wrong...and I'm black. I'm sorry if I saw someone breaking into my neighbors house and they SAW me even if they turned to run, I would feel threatened and I would shoot too....just out of mere fear because I wouldn't know if they were coming back or not. Plus, I'm gangster like that :grin:. Further comments later. So they saw him? I got the impression, he was in his house, they were at the neighbors, he witnessed what they were doing, and he shot them in the back as they were leaving. For me, this is not an issue of race. (Although, as many of the other posters said, this might have played out differently if the races were different.) I just don't understand why it was necessary for him to shoot them if they didn't see him and were leaving anyway. |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Jul 4, 2008 21:59:22 GMT -5
Yeah...he was in his house safe, called 911 and they told him to stay indoors...he went out anyway and shot them. Even the 911 operator was in disbelief.
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Post by 123Diva on Jul 4, 2008 22:49:57 GMT -5
Dude was wrong...I don't even see room for question here.
Some crazy ish like this is always happening in Texas.
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