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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 6, 2008 16:13:47 GMT -5
Damieforblog.com !!!!! I will market you Damie <---has a degree in marketing and MIS <---works in MIS but would really like to develop into a marketing career <---can start marketing Damie..
DMQ was up 2 1/2% in a heavy day of trading.
@ Water: LOL stop hating
@ Denounced: I forgive you because I know you are a lost angry soul. I know you are trying to pick a fight but your conflict isn't with me. Just remember - but it's never too late for you to get right with God. He turned Paul around, He can turn you around also. |
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Post by water on Apr 6, 2008 16:18:07 GMT -5
water is headed back to Hampton this summer me and damie q choppin it up face to face in my hometown Hampton Va yea without the cheerleaders lol whatever you do damie when dem cheerleaders come running do not drink.............  |
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Post by denounced on Apr 6, 2008 20:23:05 GMT -5
If you really think I am angry, I feel for you. If you believe I am lost, I repented before I took communion today. It seems your Wright-Like tirade about slavery leading to share-cropping, etc. shows that as a black person, you still haven't gotten it yet. Can you prove the things at freemasonry watch is not true? Just asking! Wink
Keep enjoying your rumspringa experience!!!!!!!!!! At your age you may be suffering from rumspringa hangover. NLOL!
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Apr 8, 2008 16:49:27 GMT -5
Damieforblog.com !!!!! I will market you Damie <---has a degree in marketing and MIS <---works in MIS but would really like to develop into a marketing career <---can start marketing Damie.. I agree that Damie should start blogging. Judging from his post count on here and on G9, he clearly has the time...  |
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Post by water on Apr 8, 2008 17:18:53 GMT -5
damie somebody put hater-aid in the pitcher |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 8, 2008 17:43:51 GMT -5
LOL - why does the picture of Kool-Aid have on Purple and Gold Sneakers? LOL
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Post by Warner Fite on Apr 9, 2008 12:04:29 GMT -5
A Tale of Two Unions
If you have been observing politics lately, I think it is obvious that we can dispense with the nicety that race doesn't matter. The firestorm (and the fact that it even WAS a firestorm) that was touched off in the after-after-aftermath of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's comments makes clear what the truth is. when I listen to the likes of Pat Buchanan sincerely suggest that slavery was actually a "boon" to black people, that without slavery we would never know the freedom of America or the Gospel of Christ and that we should be grateful - it is clear that between some black people and white people we have a schism (if not also a severely biased and flawed recollection of history.)
It has become apparent to me that the great irony in the discussion on race is that the only people who it seems CAN NOT raise "race" as a serious issue anymore are black people. We are universally decried as "living in the past" or playing the race card for daring to even mention it.And yet it seems ANY one else, who should chose to, can bring up race as an issue, and it carries instant legitimacy - worthy of our discussion (without pre-conceived biases). In an effort to see all sides of the issue I at least considered that, perhaps this happens because some white people have always believed we've used race as political truncheon, to bludgeon both them and their institutions into submission. But I see no truth to that. If anyone DID find it credible they would only be exposing the problem at hand - that they've ALWAYS believed we've used it as leverage. No fair minded person can say that race hasn't been exploited by both blacks and whites I do not at all rule out that some black people have used racism and race as their own personal charge card. But it does not stand to reason that all our cares and concerns that are unique to our community because of our unique experience in America can be dismissed by biased outside analysis.
I do not expect nor blame white people for not "getting it". It's not for them to "get", anymore than the "white experience" is for me to get. I can understand (even if I do not embrace) what their life is like - but I'll never truly "get" it - and that's fine because understanding is enough. That said I also do not, insult them by telling them what IS and what IS NOT their experience and how they should treat it. And try as they might no amount of revisionist's history puts shackles on the hands and feet of Irish, German, Jewish, or Chinese immigrants. To compare their experience to the experience of black people on the basis of poverty (while ignoring Institutional Racism, the Fracturing of the Black Family, and the Eradication of our Native Culture) is simply ludicrous. Our strands may all be woven into the American Tapestry, but we came in on a completely different Loom.
To be clear this is not about hosting some sort of game of "Racial Oppression Poker" where the group with the most calamities wins. We do not prosper any by having the worst sob story and given the treatment of Native Americans in their OWN land, it's questionable if we would even come out the worst if you're tempted to go down that "rabbit hole". We all lacked wealth as new transplants to this country - that we shared in common. What we didn't share was the means and the freedom to rise above that deficit as others were. Were it ONLY a matter of working hard we would not be having this discussion. Plenty of black families worked themselves to death on Share Cropper land. But in the myopic analysis of some white people today - this would STILL constitute the equal opportunity that everyone else was like wise afforded. Though they would like it to be, life in America is not merely a matter of hard work, meeting economic opportuntity, turning into success - not for us.
p.s. If anyone would like to point out that white people share cropped too - be my guest. Do me a favor though. Go and check the percentages in which they participated in sharecropping compared to black people - then go sit down.
It is neither a crime nor an excuse for black people to recognize that our situation is different from most (even if no one else seems to want to). If anything it is a daily acknowledgement of the difference between the theory versus the practice. There is what we are taught should be the American experience, and there is what we actually experience. For our part we've learned to navigate the duality of being "part of the whole" and "apart from the whole". Our experience is different and our cultural baggage (our fears, concerns, outrages, much-ados-about-nothings, our hopes) are going to be different. As it turns out, this is harder for someone on the outside looking, to understand than I would have thought.
Damie....this is just.....good stuff man. Wow....It took me three hours to read it due to interruptions. I tried and tried to re-examine the second paragraph and disagree with you, particularly the second and last paragraph. But at the end of it all, after some well-thought out moments regarding those two paragraphs, your weigh-in about our plight and cause is undeniable. Being honest here, I thought this was probably thee most honest and open assessment of race and intra-racial insight I have probably ever read. Anybody who reads this and doesn't give you the deserved props on this peice is either jealous or can't read. You should be heard, dude. That's real. Try putting the same passion into returning calls, and I might start thinking you're a pretty sharp guy....*while saying the word "asshole" under my breath* |
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Post by Warner Fite on Apr 14, 2008 11:04:32 GMT -5
A Tale of Two Unions
If you have been observing politics lately, I think it is obvious that we can dispense with the nicety that race doesn't matter. The firestorm (and the fact that it even WAS a firestorm) that was touched off in the after-after-aftermath of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's comments makes clear what the truth is. when I listen to the likes of Pat Buchanan sincerely suggest that slavery was actually a "boon" to black people, that without slavery we would never know the freedom of America or the Gospel of Christ and that we should be grateful - it is clear that between some black people and white people we have a schism (if not also a severely biased and flawed recollection of history.)
It has become apparent to me that the great irony in the discussion on race is that the only people who it seems CAN NOT raise "race" as a serious issue anymore are black people. We are universally decried as "living in the past" or playing the race card for daring to even mention it.And yet it seems ANY one else, who should chose to, can bring up race as an issue, and it carries instant legitimacy - worthy of our discussion (without pre-conceived biases). In an effort to see all sides of the issue I at least considered that, perhaps this happens because some white people have always believed we've used race as political truncheon, to bludgeon both them and their institutions into submission. But I see no truth to that. If anyone DID find it credible they would only be exposing the problem at hand - that they've ALWAYS believed we've used it as leverage. No fair minded person can say that race hasn't been exploited by both blacks and whites I do not at all rule out that some black people have used racism and race as their own personal charge card. But it does not stand to reason that all our cares and concerns that are unique to our community because of our unique experience in America can be dismissed by biased outside analysis.
I do not expect nor blame white people for not "getting it". It's not for them to "get", anymore than the "white experience" is for me to get. I can understand (even if I do not embrace) what their life is like - but I'll never truly "get" it - and that's fine because understanding is enough. That said I also do not, insult them by telling them what IS and what IS NOT their experience and how they should treat it. And try as they might no amount of revisionist's history puts shackles on the hands and feet of Irish, German, Jewish, or Chinese immigrants. To compare their experience to the experience of black people on the basis of poverty (while ignoring Institutional Racism, the Fracturing of the Black Family, and the Eradication of our Native Culture) is simply ludicrous. Our strands may all be woven into the American Tapestry, but we came in on a completely different Loom.
To be clear this is not about hosting some sort of game of "Racial Oppression Poker" where the group with the most calamities wins. We do not prosper any by having the worst sob story and given the treatment of Native Americans in their OWN land, it's questionable if we would even come out the worst if you're tempted to go down that "rabbit hole". We all lacked wealth as new transplants to this country - that we shared in common. What we didn't share was the means and the freedom to rise above that deficit as others were. Were it ONLY a matter of working hard we would not be having this discussion. Plenty of black families worked themselves to death on Share Cropper land. But in the myopic analysis of some white people today - this would STILL constitute the equal opportunity that everyone else was like wise afforded. Though they would like it to be, life in America is not merely a matter of hard work, meeting economic opportuntity, turning into success - not for us.
p.s. If anyone would like to point out that white people share cropped too - be my guest. Do me a favor though. Go and check the percentages in which they participated in sharecropping compared to black people - then go sit down.
It is neither a crime nor an excuse for black people to recognize that our situation is different from most (even if no one else seems to want to). If anything it is a daily acknowledgement of the difference between the theory versus the practice. There is what we are taught should be the American experience, and there is what we actually experience. For our part we've learned to navigate the duality of being "part of the whole" and "apart from the whole". Our experience is different and our cultural baggage (our fears, concerns, outrages, much-ados-about-nothings, our hopes) are going to be different. As it turns out, this is harder for someone on the outside looking, to understand than I would have thought.
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