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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Mar 18, 2008 9:58:25 GMT -5
I actually think Hillary's folks put that stuff out there. She was getting DESPERATE, and this was the best she could do to try to stop his momentum. She plays dirty. I actually agree with that. I believe that Hillary had something to do with this. She has been awfully quiet... |
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Post by lpitd16 on Mar 18, 2008 9:59:50 GMT -5
Water, are smokin' water?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Mar 18, 2008 10:12:35 GMT -5
(some people think too much)
And some don't think at all
yes ....(those are the real issues why cuz his wife will be in the house making major decisions and the rest will be giving advice left and right so who you kick it with matters)
So Laura Bush was partly to blame for this mess in Iraq? Man who knew? She was probably behind the tax cut too and the energy policy that is tilted so heavily in favor of big industry. Good point - water.
Why ( HELLO i am not an OBAMAMANIAC i am a water independent biblical perspective citizen I would never support a man who advocates homosexual christianity and abortion)
No - you seem to be just a Barackhater. Otherwise instead of doing drive by sniper shots about Barack you'd be telling us about the candidate you do plan to vote for and what's so good about him or her (don't worry I'm not holding my breath - your mission is apparently just to be anti. Anti-Earth Wind and Fire, Anti Barack, probably Anti-Playstation, and Anti-March Madness... if people like it - you've got the Anti for them. Duly noted)
(that is against the law and my Committed Christian principles...... lets just not vote him into office as the Commander in Chief)
Fine - you don't want him. Who should we vote for... stop being the anti- and be the pro-something (pro-anything)
The Committed Christian who believes abortion is legit and same sex marriage is kool for america did this to his self what a shame and i still saved a lot money with GEICO
And so what if Barack was for Civil Unions? Would that still make him Pro Same Sex Marriage? I generally disagree with abortion. I personally do not recognize it as a RIGHT of one or both the parents if there are not medically determined health issues that compel the end of the pregnancy. I don't believe abortion is a viable birth control. But I would not be opposed to abortion if the pregnancy endangered the mothers life or if the child would be born with debilitating birth effects. I also don't think a mother should be forced to carry a baby to term as a result of rape. So would that make me pro-abortion? I mean I don't oppose it in all situations - so am I pro-choice or pro-life? If I was running for President I guess you would say I'm pro-abortion. Such is the nature of politics. No context needed - just soundbytes.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 18, 2008 10:20:37 GMT -5
Pro-choice is NOT the same as Pro-abortion
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Post by water on Mar 18, 2008 10:48:13 GMT -5
(some people think too much) And some don't think at all Thats what i was thinking lol yes ....(those are the real issues why cuz his wife will be in the house making major decisions and the rest will be giving advice left and right so who you kick it with matters) So Laura Bush was partly to blame for this mess in Iraq? Man who knew? She was probably behind the tax cut too and the energy policy that is tilted so heavily in favor of big industry. Good point - water. I do put it down quite nicely If i may say Why ( HELLO i am not an OBAMAMANIAC i am a water independent biblical perspective citizen I would never support a man who advocates homosexual christianity and abortion) No - you seem to be just a Barackhater.I love barack hussein Obam bin laden otherwise instead of doing drive by sniper shots about Barack you'd be telling us about the candidate you do plan to vote for and what's so good about him or her (don't worry I'm not holding my breath I am writing in Tony Brown since Huckabee is Out thats one proud alpha who will put them masons on front street o- your mission is apparently just to be anti. Anti-Earth Wind and Fire The Reasons i dont like EWF are numerous but the main one is i dont play with serpentine fire, Anti Barack, I love barack and his pro abortion same gender lovin pastor probably Anti-Playstation Sonic Hedghog you got too love it, and Anti-March Madness.. .I dont celebrate st patricks day if people like it - you've got the Anti for them. Duly noted) and dont forget I AM Anti (spirit of the anti christ)(that is against the law and my Committed Christian principles...... lets just not vote him into office as the Commander in Chief) Fine - you don't want him. Who should we vote for... stop being the anti- and be the pro-something (pro-anything) I am not republican or democrat i am for uplifting the name of Yahshua so lets pray for Mr Tony Brown and write him in on the ballotThe Committed Christian who believes abortion is legit and same sex marriage is kool for america did this to his self what a shame and i still saved a lot money with GEICO And so what if Barack was for Civil Unions? Would that still make him Pro Same Sex Marriage? It does not matter what you call it anal sex and oral sex are crimes against nature lets keep the Laws on the Books I generally disagree with abortion. I personally do not recognize it as a RIGHT of one or both the parents if there are not medically determined health issues that compel the end of the pregnancy. I don't believe abortion is a viable birth control. But I would not be opposed to abortion if the pregnancy endangered the mothers life or if the child would be born with debilitating birth effects. I also don't think a mother should be forced to carry a baby to term as a result of rape. So would that make me pro-abortion? I mean I don't oppose it in all situations - so am I pro-choice or pro-life? If I was running for President I guess you would say I'm pro-abortion. Such is the nature of politics. No context needed - just soundbytes. Yea I am Pro LIFE and Anti Murder of innocent babies in their mothers tummies  |
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Post by Search1906 on Mar 18, 2008 12:22:54 GMT -5
WATER YOU NEVER ANSWERED MY POST. CHECK PAGE 1 TOWARD THE BOTTOM PLEASE
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Post by Cambist on Mar 18, 2008 12:29:50 GMT -5
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Post by water on Mar 18, 2008 13:35:31 GMT -5
I have a question for Water....actually I have a few. Which candidate do you feel is worthy of being elected president. None they all are the same obama clinton and maccain are the same corporate machine somebody might run independent , a vice president might change my position or i will write in Mr Tony brown for President with Dick Gregory as his VP IThe second is being anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage seems to be a criteria for being a viable candidate for you.Being Pro lLIFE and Pro Marriage One Man and One Women is criteria for being a good candidate in my book but in politics you can not have it all so.....I ll take The Proud Alpha Man Mr Tony Brown for President he will put the country in the Black and I am talking about the economy..the current president fits the bill do you think those two issue are the most important considering being honest and competent were a distant 3rd and 4th in past elections.He was the best bones man for the job they were the same that pro marriage pro life just put him over the top the two party system is a lie Lastly if a president didn't condemn abortion and gay marriage but fell in line with all the other things you are looking for in a president in terms of policy would you vote for him? I would vote for a guy like Ron Paul if he was running against any Dem i dont know to many pro life dems My ex frat brother who i voted for use to be Pro life but you know how it go you use to be hardcore hip hop now look at you boy you done flip[ flop thats not in the bible so ....fall back baby bible beaters
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Post by water on Mar 18, 2008 13:52:21 GMT -5
That article was cool Cam but did you catch that I know you did....... This is why a thirty-second excerpt should tarnish a thirty-plus year career of living out Luke 4:18. anyway that verse is a Good one the question of the day is what spirit is Jeremiah Wright operating under .Yahshua is cool under pressure. Rev Jeremiah Wright is mad and out of control not a good look at all. He need to holla at Joel Olsteen and relax  Hold Up Joel Olsteen is on Line 7 i will put him through How are you doing water I am so glad you put me through...i usually start with a Little joke but today i will cut straight to the issue at hand...Rev Rev I have a lot of Black people at my church we get along just fine.... Come on buddy ...We can all be friends ...step back and breath ...check out the situation ...and understand that God loves us all...He wants you to like everybody...and if they hate you dont worry about it brother Jeremiah God is still in control even when the situation is out of control. Peace be still is what comes to my mind and thats why I Joel Olsteen dont mess with politics... |
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Post by Cambist on Mar 18, 2008 14:15:59 GMT -5
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Post by No Screen Name on Mar 18, 2008 14:31:01 GMT -5
He need to holla at Joel Olsteen and relax Hold Up Joel Olsteen is on Line 7 i will put him through How are you doing water I am so glad you put me through...i usually start with a Little joke but today i will cut straight to the issue at hand...Rev Rev I have a lot of Black people at my church we get along just fine.... Come on buddy ...We can all be friends ...step back and breath ...check out the situation ...and understand that God loves us all...He wants you to like everybody...and if they hate you dont worry about brother Jeremiah God is still in control even when the situation is out of control. Peace be still is what comes to my mind and thats why I Joel Olsteen dont mess with politics... Water you DUMB! ;D I can actually hear Joel Olsteen's voice saying those words. I don't agree with most of what you say...but you alright wit' me. ;D |
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Post by Champs Elysees on Mar 18, 2008 15:06:51 GMT -5
That article was cool Cam but did you catch that I know you did....... This is why a thirty-second excerpt should tarnish a thirty-plus year career of living out Luke 4:18. anyway that verse is a Good one the question of the day is what spirit is Jeremiah Wright operating under . Yahshua is cool under pressure. Rev Jeremiah Wright is mad and out of control not a good look at all. He need to holla at Joel Olsteen and relax Hold Up Joel Olsteen is on Line 7 i will put him through How are you doing water I am so glad you put me through...i usually start with a Little joke but today i will cut straight to the issue at hand...Rev Rev I have a lot of Black people at my church we get along just fine.... Come on buddy ...We can all be friends ...step back and breath ...check out the situation ...and understand that God loves us all...He wants you to like everybody...and if they hate you dont worry about it brother Jeremiah God is still in control even when the situation is out of control. Peace be still is what comes to my mind and thats why I Joel Olsteen dont mess with politics... |
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Post by water on Mar 18, 2008 18:05:16 GMT -5
There is a time and a place for everything ....
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Post by denounced on Mar 18, 2008 20:22:00 GMT -5
Speaking of abortion, this is Planned Parenthood's and other's true agenda. "WHAT WAS SAID Autumn Kersey of Planned Parenthood in Boise: Good afternoon, this is Autumn. Donor: Hello, Autumn, I'm interested in making a donation today. Kersey: Fantastic! Donor: What about abortions for the underprivileged minority groups? Kersey: Oh, absolutely. We have, um, in fact, uh wonderful, fantastic news. We just received a very generous donation to our women in need fund. Donor: Wonderful. I want to specify that abortion to help a minority group - would that be possible? Kersey: Absolutely. Donor: Like the black community for example? Kersey: Certainly. Donor: OK, so the abortionI can give money specifically for a black baby, that would be the purpose. Kersey: Absolutely. If you wanted to designate that you wanted your gift to be used to help (an) African-American woman in need, then we would certainly make sure that that gift was earmarked specifically for that purpose. Donor: Great. Because I really face trouble with affirmative action, and I don't want my kids being disadvantaged, you know, against black kids. I just had a baby; I want to put it in his name, you know. Kersey: Mmhmm, absolutely. Donor: So that's definitely possible. Kersey: Oh, always, always. Donor: So I just wanna - can I put this in the name of my son? Kersey: Absolutely. Donor: Yeah, he's trying to get into colleges, and he's going to be applying, you know, he's justwe're just really bighe's really faced troubles with affirmative action. Kersey: Mmhmm. Donor: And we don't, you know, we just think, you know, the less black kids out there the better. Kersey: (Laughs) Understandable, understandable. ... Um David, let me, if I may, just get some sort of specific general information so we can set this up the right way. You said you wanted to put it in your son's name, and you would like this designated specifically to assist (an) African-American woman who's looking to terminate a pregnancy. Donor: Exactly, and yeah, I wanna protect my son, so he can get into college. Kersey: All right. Excuse my hesitation, um, um, this is the first time I've had a donor call and make this kind of request, so I'm excited, and I wanna make sure I don't leave anything out." www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdates/story/308723.htmlTranscript released by The Advocate As for Jeremiah Wright, shining example of a Nasty Que Dog, PHA mason, etc., he is a racist (to his own people), genocidal, elitist, who had the nerve to say that when you do not have a masters of Ph.D in divinity, you cannot properly interpret the Bible. What good is a satanical heretic of the Christian faith with a Master's or Ph.D in anything. |
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Post by denounced on Mar 18, 2008 20:32:16 GMT -5
Has anybody seen a picture of Hudson, the founder of clergy consultations service?
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Post by Cambist on Mar 19, 2008 7:40:01 GMT -5
There is a time and a place for everything .... There's a time and a place for truth? A time and place for righteous action? Time and a place for addressing cowardace with courage? Come on water....there may be a politically correct time and place for everything but I think you would agree that anytime righteousness, truth and/or order is spoken to disorder, lies and/or unrighteous situations....it's right. Really, that's why I have never been one to tell the "bible beaters" to get lost! LOL! Whether I agree with your message or not, there are some aspects of our organizations that are not the most righteous or downright sinful...and you have a right (if not a responsibility) to speak to your convictions. LIke I said...we don't have to agree on everything....but when you speak truth...any truth...I must agree at least to the degree that the truth exists. |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 19, 2008 8:17:33 GMT -5
Well, Sen. Obama spoke clearly and passionately about (as Damie said, and I wholeheartedly agree with,) an "issue" that should not even be discussed in this campaign.
What I'm most optimistic about following his comments yesterday...is that those who analyze these political speeches ALL said that he was eloquent and basically did all that he can do. Hell, even Bay Buchannan was impressed!
Ed Shultz (again I gain more and more respect for this man every time I hear him offer his commentary,) said, "it's not Obama got up on this day and decided that he would deliver what in my opinion was one of the best speeches of ANY candidate I can remember during an election. The media basically forced him to do this by continuously running that excerpt about Rev. Wright over and over again."
For those who may have been "confused" about Obama and where he stands religiously (which should have NOTHING to do with this campaign,) they are satisfied. Those who will claim that they still were left "wanting" are the ones that were not going to vote for him anway.
He's done all he can do. Perhaps now, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC will move forward with the REAL issues of the day and leave this bullshit alone. I expect that much from most of those.
As for FOX News...well....let's just say expect NOTHING from them!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Mar 19, 2008 9:23:03 GMT -5
The media basically forced him to do this by continuously running that excerpt about Rev. Wright over and over again." Those who will claim that they still were left "wanting" are the ones that were not going to vote for him anway. |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 19, 2008 10:44:12 GMT -5
Really, that's why I have never been one to tell the "bible beaters" to get lost! LOL! Whether I agree with your message or not, there are some aspects of our organizations that are not the most righteous or downright sinful...and you have a right (if not a responsibility) to speak to your convictions. The reason I tell them to get lost is because they paint all members of all orgs with the same brush stroke. Much like the imbeciles are trying to do with this whole issue of Rev. Wright's comments, which by the way, was only a MINUTE portion of the other things he discussed in his pulpit. I like what our frat Roland Martin said...." Rev. Wright is not running for president." And despite how "piercing" his comments may have been, the man is a retireed Marine, so he couldn't have been that damned anti-American. What non-patriotic person do any of us know that joins the armed services...and the Marines most of all? |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Mar 19, 2008 12:45:22 GMT -5
The rebuttal you're going to get when you make that argument is Timothy McVeigh.
I agree with you that the great likelihood is that his patriotism is not in question - but that's will people will point out, that McVeigh (and other Militia nuts) often serve in the military as a counter argument to you.
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Post by Robelite on Mar 19, 2008 13:38:30 GMT -5
The rebuttal you're going to get when you make that argument is Timothy McVeigh.
I agree with you that the great likelihood is that his patriotism is not in question - but that's will people will point out, that McVeigh (and other Militia nuts) often serve in the military as a counter argument to you. You're right Damie, but you know what I've done when the "lie" that was being perpetuated that Obama is a muslim parted one's lips? I'd reply, "oh yeah, he's a "terrist" just like Timothy McVeigh. Did HIS name have anything to do with him killing people (inlcuding children) in OK City? That'll usually shut a redneck up! |
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Post by water on Mar 21, 2008 7:50:41 GMT -5
did Sen . Barak Hussein Obama call his passa angry and bitter? I wonder if this committed christian took his fellow committed christian friend to the side first and confront his bitterness and anger ...because that is not a good look for a pastor with such influence if it is true that he is harboring bitterness and anger . this is slick talk at its finest but i guess he has to put his foot on the neck of his passa but its sad when the order comes from your massa.
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Post by Robelite on Mar 21, 2008 8:28:18 GMT -5
[quote did Sen . Barak Hussein Obama call his passa angry and bitter? NO....HE.....DIDN'T! You're just like all the other crazies who picked one or two lines out of his speech, and ran with (and misinterpreted) them. But what am I saying? Surely I'm not suprised that YOU would do such. |
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Post by water on Mar 21, 2008 8:46:06 GMT -5
YES HE DID!!!! LOL robocop you are funny
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Post by Robelite on Mar 21, 2008 9:09:54 GMT -5
YOU....ARE.....LYING!
Please post the link to a quote where he stated that about Wright.
That is all.
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Post by water on Mar 21, 2008 9:45:21 GMT -5
For the men and women of Reverend Wright's generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.
That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co- workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or the beauty shop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians to gin up votes along racial lines or to make up for a politician's own failings.
And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews.
That anger is not always productive. Indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems. It keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity within the African-American community in our condition, it prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
But the anger is real, it is powerful, and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801081.html
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Post by water on Mar 21, 2008 9:52:19 GMT -5
Thats that slick talk he got clinton in their too.
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Post by Robelite on Mar 21, 2008 10:58:22 GMT -5
For the men and women of Reverend Wright's generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.
That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co- workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or the beauty shop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians to gin up votes along racial lines or to make up for a politician's own failings.
And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews.
That anger is not always productive. Indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems. It keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity within the African-American community in our condition, it prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change.
But the anger is real, it is powerful, and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801081.html How idiotic!! What he is refrencing there is the bitterness that was rampant due to Jim Crow and the violent racism that was the order of the day! Only a fool would twist those words to make it appear that Obama referred to Wright as such, but then again...as I said...only a fool!  |
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Post by water on Mar 21, 2008 12:11:57 GMT -5
Psalm 53 1THE [empty-headed] fool has said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt and evil are they, and doing abominable iniquity; there is none who does good. 2God looked down from heaven upon the children of men to see if there were any who understood, who sought (inquired after and desperately required) God. 3Every one of them has gone back [backslidden and fallen away]; they have altogether become filthy and corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one.(A) 4Have those who work evil no knowledge (no understanding)? They eat up My people as they eat bread; they do not call upon God. 5There they are, in terror and dread, where there was [and had been] no terror and dread! For God has scattered the bones of him who encamps against you; you have put them to shame, because God has rejected them. 6 Oh, that the salvation and deliverance of Israel would come out of Zion! When God restores the fortunes of His people, then will Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad. Robcop maybe he was talking about you because when you post the bitterness and anger comes right through but thank God for Joy unspeakable Joy . Jesus can help you with that foul spirit that you have Yahshua Delivered me he can deliver you and Rev Jerimiah Wright from that spirit that binds....Loose in the Name of Jesus.. |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 21, 2008 14:12:43 GMT -5
Not anger...just frustration at your continued idiocy and diatribe that you seem to eat, drink and sleep on the daily. As usual, when one of your rants is disproven, you divert to quoting some scripture...something that fraudulent zealots are good at. You have a Happy Easter...and remember on that third day, JESUS (not water) arose with ALL POWER in HIS hands. Put that in your Easter basket!  |
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Hold Up Joel Olsteen is on Line 7 i will put him through How are you doing water I am so glad you put me through...i usually start with a Little joke but today i will cut straight to the issue at hand...Rev Rev I have a lot of Black people at my church we get along just fine.... Come on buddy ...We can all be friends ...step back and breath ...check out the situation ...and understand that God loves us all...He wants you to like everybody...and if they hate you dont worry about it brother Jeremiah God is still in control even when the situation is out of control. Peace be still is what comes to my mind and thats why I Joel Olsteen dont mess with politics... 
