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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 4, 2008 13:30:54 GMT -5
If so why?
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Post by QueenOH on Jun 4, 2008 13:50:38 GMT -5
no where in the bible does it say thou "shall not file" or mention the evils of paperclips
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 4, 2008 13:58:38 GMT -5
Yay... Im a skrippa! " ...from pole to pole..." oh wait, wrong thread  |
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Jun 4, 2008 14:30:01 GMT -5
^^Inconquerable.  I think Catholicism disagrees with everything I stand for, so I don't pay much attention to the doctrines of my religion. Moreso am I a christian than a catholic, if that makes any sense. |
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Post by mrknowitall on Jun 4, 2008 14:51:11 GMT -5
no where in the bible does it say thou "shall not file" or mention the evils of paperclips Paperclips and file folders are not evil... ...but papercuts from those manila file folders are the DEVIL!!!!!!! I plea the blood of Jesus for no more papercuts!!!! |
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Post by jay0heavenly on Jun 4, 2008 15:20:29 GMT -5
lol
Me personally, I'm an advocate for young adults that cannot afford a lawyer...it enables me to be a male role model in their lives and even sneak in a little Jesus.
And I'm also a prison Chaplain (just got the gig at Sing Sing Maximum Security Penitentiary in NY) and that is all Jesus all the time so my profession is gravy!
But as for others, I don't think any profession is wrong per se (with the exception of strippers, drug dealers and the like), BUT it is up to the individual to act ethically in that field.
For example, a doctor is an honorable profession, BUT, if that doctor is in bed (figuratively speaking) with the pharmaceutical companies just to make more $$$ than God would not be in favor of that. Its up to the individual's behavior at his job, not the job itself.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 4, 2008 15:41:57 GMT -5
lol Me personally, I'm an advocate for young adults that cannot afford a lawyer...it enables me to be a male role model in their lives and even sneak in a little Jesus. And I'm also a prison Chaplain (just got the gig at Sing Sing Maximum Security Penitentiary in NY) and that is all Jesus all the time so my profession is gravy! But as for others, I don't think any profession is wrong per se (with the exception of strippers, drug dealers and the like), BUT it is up to the individual to act ethically in that field. For example, a doctor is an honorable profession, BUT, if that doctor is in bed (figuratively speaking) with the pharmaceutical companies just to make more $$$ than God would not be in favor of that. Its up to the individual's behavior at his job, not the job itself. Good chit Jay...BUT Whats wrong with people who are in BGLO's that do the same things as you do? I mean do you not abide by the rules within The Separation of Church and State correct? |
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Post by jay0heavenly on Jun 4, 2008 16:08:10 GMT -5
definitely I'm all for separation of church and state, and I applaud anyone, greek or not that does well in the community. My problem 100% lies in the ritualistic aspect of it. I'll say this in my very best english  ... Don't nobody need to do all of dat just to pass out fried chicken!!! Maybe I was unclear in my opposition to bglo's. Why not be like the NAACP? Do work in the community without kneeling at shrines, pledging people etc? If you want to do community service and be around other like minded folks...GREAT... go out and do it!!! but don't pledge your heart to something other than Christ in the process. |
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Post by Nupey on Jun 4, 2008 16:28:23 GMT -5
definitely I'm all for separation of church and state, and I applaud anyone, greek or not that does well in the community. My problem 100% lies in the ritualistic aspect of it. I'll say this in my very best english ... Don't nobody need to do all of dat just to pass out fried chicken!!! Maybe I was unclear in my opposition to bglo's. Why not be like the NAACP? Do work in the community without kneeling at shrines, pledging people etc? If you want to do community service and be around other like minded folks...GREAT... go out and do it!!! but don't pledge your heart to something other than Christ in the process. |
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Post by denounced on Jun 5, 2008 5:22:48 GMT -5
You all are not just social according to your Constitution Nupey. I have read just some of it.
As for separation of church and state; just as long as the state keeps its stinking rules out of our Bibles. Other than that, I hope to see more Jesus followers in congress.
The separation of church and state does not exist in the U.S. Constitution, but it did and/or does in the Russian constitution.
If this is really the case, why do we swear on Bibles in the court room, have prayers in congress, etc.
When the righteous rule the people rejoice, but sin is a reproach to any people.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 9:48:47 GMT -5
definitely I'm all for separation of church and state, and I applaud anyone, greek or not that does well in the community. My problem 100% lies in the ritualistic aspect of it. I'll say this in my very best english ... Don't nobody need to do all of dat just to pass out fried chicken!!! Maybe I was unclear in my opposition to bglo's. Why not be like the NAACP? Do work in the community without kneeling at shrines, pledging people etc? If you want to do community service and be around other like minded folks...GREAT... go out and do it!!! but don't pledge your heart to something other than Christ in the process. I hear ya talking Jay but riddle me this..... Isn't there an Oath you take and have to uphold as Counselor? How does that compare and contrast with Christianity? Does that Oath include Jesus or is replaced with the US Constitution. Furthermore you may not "pledge" to become a lawyer but you are defiantly going through an indoctrination. America's Laws are not the laws of your God. Matter of fact according to your bybull when Jesus comes back man will be judged. How will Jesus feel about people who have been attempting to do his job? How did you feel when they made you take your Oath while at the same time cursing your Lord by the placing of the hand on the "good book" as you pledge allegiance to the Court? See I have no problem with your profession. I think people should have free will in their pursuit of happiness. Free will in spirituality as well. It when you paint yourself into a corner and say things should be one way, but then you participate with things that are synonymous in theory which you supposedly are against. Your monument will be that of personal gain. Thats being Lukewarm. In your bible hypocrites die first. Remember that..... |
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Post by Cambist on Jun 5, 2008 11:05:37 GMT -5
When I was a lender, I don't know.
Now that i'm a trader? I still don't know. This is a big assed video gambling game. Risk.
I also work with the March of Dimes. Some have condemed it as a Hell portal because of it's stances on contraception and (I heard) it's relationship with some planned parenthood organizations.
I also work with the Zoo. Should animals be locked up? Is that of God?
I also am a gymnastics and baseball dad. When my daughter stands on the podium to accept her medal after a competition, is she being exalted? Is is wrong if they don't have an empty place above first and title it "Jesus, Above #1"?
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Post by jay0heavenly on Jun 5, 2008 11:18:02 GMT -5
definitely I'm all for separation of church and state, and I applaud anyone, greek or not that does well in the community. My problem 100% lies in the ritualistic aspect of it. I'll say this in my very best english ... Don't nobody need to do all of dat just to pass out fried chicken!!! Maybe I was unclear in my opposition to bglo's. Why not be like the NAACP? Do work in the community without kneeling at shrines, pledging people etc? If you want to do community service and be around other like minded folks...GREAT... go out and do it!!! but don't pledge your heart to something other than Christ in the process. I hear ya talking Jay but riddle me this..... Isn't there an Oath you take and have to uphold as Counselor? How does that compare and contrast with Christianity? Does that Oath include Jesus or is replaced with the US Constitution. Furthermore you may not "pledge" to become a lawyer but you are defiantly going through an indoctrination. America's Laws are not the laws of your God. Matter of fact according to your bybull when Jesus comes back man will be judged. How will Jesus feel about people who have been attempting to do his job? How did you feel when they made you take your Oath while at the same time cursing your Lord by the placing of the hand on the "good book" as you pledge allegiance to the Court? See I have no problem with your profession. I think people should have free will in their pursuit of happiness. Free will in spirituality as well. It when you paint yourself into a corner and say things should be one way, but then you participate with things that are synonymous in theory which you supposedly are against. Your monument will be that of personal gain. Thats being Lukewarm. In your bible hypocrites die first. Remember that..... Luke warm is the absolute worst of the worst, I'll agree to that. As far as "oaths" are concerned, I "agreed" that in my capacity as an attorney I would uphold the tenets of the constitution, and it doesn't compare or contrast Christianity at all. NO WAY IN THE WORLD DID I PLEDGE, SWEAR OR GIVE ANY ALLEGIANCE TO THE COURT, AMERICA OR ANYTHING ELSE. Its a simple question "Will you uphold the constitution?" to which my answer was "yes". I didn't put my hand on a bible or anything, nobody did, it was completely a non-religious in all aspects. Its just like when the lady at Applebees said "Do you want a refill on that sprite? and my answer was yes!" lol And you are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaching if you're trying to say I was indoctrinated into the laws of this country. Good try my fellow Morganite...those hours at Jenkins taught you well...lol... Studying for the Bar exam sucked on many levels, mainly b/c you had to memorize thousands of pages of laws and there respective exceptions, but thats no different than my memorization of NBA stats for my fantasy basketball league...lol. Do I know the law, yes, of course, but thats where it ends |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 11:27:45 GMT -5
^^Inconquerable. I think Catholicism disagrees with everything I stand for, so I don't pay much attention to the doctrines of my religion. Moreso am I a christian than a catholic, if that makes any sense. ;D ;D |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 11:28:43 GMT -5
lol Me personally, I'm an advocate for young adults that cannot afford a lawyer...it enables me to be a male role model in their lives and even sneak in a little Jesus. And I'm also a prison Chaplain (just got the gig at Sing Sing Maximum Security Penitentiary in NY) and that is all Jesus all the time so my profession is gravy! But as for others, I don't think any profession is wrong per se (with the exception of strippers, drug dealers and the like), BUT it is up to the individual to act ethically in that field. For example, a doctor is an honorable profession, BUT, if that doctor is in bed (figuratively speaking) with the pharmaceutical companies just to make more $$$ than God would not be in favor of that. Its up to the individual's behavior at his job, not the job itself. LEST YE NOT JUDGE MY SKRIPPA LIFESTYLE, JAY! *HMPH*  |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 11:37:58 GMT -5
I hear ya talking Jay but riddle me this..... Isn't there an Oath you take and have to uphold as Counselor? How does that compare and contrast with Christianity? Does that Oath include Jesus or is replaced with the US Constitution. Furthermore you may not "pledge" to become a lawyer but you are defiantly going through an indoctrination. America's Laws are not the laws of your God. Matter of fact according to your bybull when Jesus comes back man will be judged. How will Jesus feel about people who have been attempting to do his job? How did you feel when they made you take your Oath while at the same time cursing your Lord by the placing of the hand on the "good book" as you pledge allegiance to the Court? See I have no problem with your profession. I think people should have free will in their pursuit of happiness. Free will in spirituality as well. It when you paint yourself into a corner and say things should be one way, but then you participate with things that are synonymous in theory which you supposedly are against. Your monument will be that of personal gain. Thats being Lukewarm. In your bible hypocrites die first. Remember that..... Luke warm is the absolute worst of the worst, I'll agree to that. As far as "oaths" are concerned, I "agreed" that in my capacity as an attorney I would uphold the tenets of the constitution, and it doesn't compare or contrast Christianity at all. NO WAY IN THE WORLD DID I PLEDGE, SWEAR OR GIVE ANY ALLEGIANCE TO THE COURT, AMERICA OR ANYTHING ELSE. Its a simple question "Will you uphold the constitution?" to which my answer was "yes". I didn't put my hand on a bible or anything, nobody did, it was completely a non-religious in all aspects. Its just like when the lady at Applebees said "Do you want a refill on that sprite? and my answer was yes!" lol And you are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaching if you're trying to say I was indoctrinated into the laws of this country. Good try my fellow Morganite...those hours at Jenkins taught you well...lol... Studying for the Bar exam sucked on many levels, mainly b/c you had to memorize thousands of pages of laws and there respective exceptions, but thats no different than my memorization of NBA stats for my fantasy basketball league...lol. Do I know the law, yes, of course, but thats where it ends So you upholding the Constitution of the United States is different that a person upholding the Ritual of their respective Org? How is that a reach? See now you precch pork chopping. I can dig man. I say live your life brother. |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 11:38:25 GMT -5
Lawyers do take an oath but you are free to swear OR affirm. And both of the oaths Ive have taken Ive said affirm not swear. When you sign an affidavit, pleading, etc etc you are AFFIRMING the truth of the substance of the document. People do not swear on the Bible in courtrooms anymore (at least not that I have been in). Again, you promise or affirm to tell the truth, blah blah blah As for greek life, I didnt not swear when taking my oath in Delta or Phi Alpha Delta or any other greek LETTERED org that Im a member of. I dont see yall going after those orgs. Seems personal to BGLOs based off a "raw" experience. Get over it. Its mostly semantics that people are taking to a WHOLE 'nother level because its really whats in your heart...me'h a la Ledra  |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 11:40:18 GMT -5
Lawyers do take an oath but you are free to swear OR affirm. And both of the oaths I have taken say affirm not swear. When you sign an affidavit, pleading, etc etc you are AFFIRMING the truth of the substance of the document. People do not swear on the Bible in courtrooms anymore (at least not that I have been in). Again, you promise or affirm to tell the truth, blah blah blah As for greek life, I didnt not swear when taking my oath in Delta or Phi Alpha Delta or any other greek LETTERED org that Im a member of. I dont see yall going after those orgs. Seems personal to BGLOs based off a "raw" experience. Get over it. <<stands behind Priss Thats right cot dammit.. What she said |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 11:43:57 GMT -5
When I was a lender, I don't know. Now that i'm a trader? I still don't know. This is a big assed video gambling game. Risk. I also work with the March of Dimes. Some have condemed it as a Hell portal because of it's stances on contraception and (I heard) it's relationship with some planned parenthood organizations. I also work with the Zoo. Should animals be locked up? Is that of God? I also am a gymnastics and baseball dad. When my daughter stands on the podium to accept her medal after a competition, is she being exalted? Is is wrong if they don't have an empty place above first and title it "Jesus, Above #1"?HELL NAW LOL  |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 11:44:02 GMT -5
I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT I WILL RESPECT
COURTS OF JUSTICE AND JUDICIAL OFFICERS THAT I WILL WELL
AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE MY DUTIES AS AN ATTORNEY AND
AS AN OFFICER OF THE COURT AND IN THE PERFORMANCE OF
THOSE DUTIES I WILL CONDUCT MYSELF WITH DIGNITY AND
ACCORDING TO BOTH THE LAW AND THE RECOGNIZED
STANDARDS OF ETHICS OF OUR PROFESSION.
^^^
The oath I took for the US District Court....I did say affirm though and the judge instructs newly admitted members to say affirm if they feel its in line with their beliefs.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 11:50:44 GMT -5
I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES THAT I WILL RESPECT COURTS OF JUSTICE AND JUDICIAL OFFICERS THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE MY DUTIES AS AN ATTORNEY AND AS AN OFFICER OF THE COURT AND IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THOSE DUTIES I WILL CONDUCT MYSELF WITH DIGNITY AND ACCORDING TO BOTH THE LAW AND THE RECOGNIZED STANDARDS OF ETHICS OF OUR PROFESSION. ^^^ The oath I took for the US District Court....I did say affirm though and the judge instructs newly admitted members to say affirm if they feel its in line with their beliefs. Good Priss. Now what I don't understand is how can these bible beaters say that bglo's are wrong when they replace the United States Constitution or any other entity that they are employed by. What is the difference when a Lawyer upholds the constitution or if a person in the medical field takes the Hippocratic Oath versus that of an BGLO? I say nothing at all. I see nothing wrong with a profession a person chooses. At the end of the day the only organization that is in line with the church is the church. Anything else is "un jesus like" |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 11:58:10 GMT -5
Folx can (and will) spin anything to fit their own personal agendas (not just bible beaters but everyone...look around)...Im learning that...not accepting it, but learning. Whenever I hear someone quot a statistic I think, "You're such a dummy." Stats are not reliable (for the most part), they are twisted and skewed to fit a hypothesis.
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Post by jay0heavenly on Jun 5, 2008 12:21:23 GMT -5
 The ritual process of ALL d9 orgs are so steeped in different deities that no one can successfully contend otherwise. Most orgs have an OFFICIAL god/goddess associated with them that its not a secret. Last time I checked I didn't kneel at any shrines/altars to get my license, nor did I do pledge my heart/mind/ or anything else to anything. To liken that to the ritual intake of d9 orgs is crazy, but not unexpected. *shrugs* |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 12:29:48 GMT -5
The ritual process of ALL d9 orgs are so steeped in different deities that no one can successfully contend otherwise. Most orgs have an OFFICIAL god/goddess associated with them that its not a secret. Last time I checked I didn't kneel at any shrines/altars to get my license, nor did I do pledge my heart/mind/ or anything else to anything. To liken that to the ritual intake of d9 orgs is crazy, but not unexpected. *shrugs* Jay, You're reaching. I understand where you are coming from but to assume that is reaching. Many things, in ALL areas of life, are used as symbolism. It does not mean that you worship them or that you're chopping off chicken heads and dancing with the devil. As for kneeling at/praying to a shrine, Im assuming you are referring to a particular org and not all orgs b/c if not, you're mistaken. |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Jun 5, 2008 12:31:59 GMT -5
The ritual process of ALL d9 orgs are so steeped in different deities that no one can successfully contend otherwise. Most orgs have an OFFICIAL god/goddess associated with them that its not a secret. Last time I checked I didn't kneel at any shrines/altars to get my license, nor did I do pledge my heart/mind/ or anything else to anything. To liken that to the ritual intake of d9 orgs is crazy, but not unexpected. *shrugs* I didn't kneel to anything either. Yall are taking these IDOLS and REEEEEEEEAAAAACCCCCHHHHHHIIIIIIINNNGGGG! Nor anywhere do I swear, kneel, pray to Minerva. But then again, if you aren't in an org, then you have no idea what you are talking about. Even still, if you WERE in an org, you still don't know what you are talking about. Sounds like people who nothing better to do then research things, use the Bible to make THEIR HYPOTHESIS stand for truth. Yet, you aren't after other GLO's with greek letters saying that their org is "against God's word" Even DOCTOR'S have to take an oath. But whatever.............I'm just a Christian who happens to be a Delta and a WOMAN of God. Anything else yall say is really bogus and pitiful, but hey, what do I know?  |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 13:35:21 GMT -5
The ritual process of ALL d9 orgs are so steeped in different deities that no one can successfully contend otherwise. Most orgs have an OFFICIAL god/goddess associated with them that its not a secret. Last time I checked I didn't kneel at any shrines/altars to get my license, nor did I do pledge my heart/mind/ or anything else to anything. To liken that to the ritual intake of d9 orgs is crazy, but not unexpected. *shrugs* Whats the difference Jay. They have minerva and you have the Lady of Justice.... Why isnt it Jesus on the Cross.. You're upholding the law in the face of an ancient blended Greco-Roman goddess. These are the same people who tried and crucified your lord and saviour. How you think Jesus feels about that? " Since the Renaissance, Justitia has frequently been depicted as a bare-breasted woman carrying a sword and scales, and sometimes wearing a blindfold. Her modern iconography, which frequently adorns courthouses and courtrooms, conflates the attributes of several goddesses who embodied Right Rule for Greeks and Romans, blending Roman blindfolded Fortuna with Hellenistic Greek Tyche."  |
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Post by bulls3y3 on Jun 5, 2008 14:56:27 GMT -5
I don't think God minds if I keep building and designing refridgerators.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jun 5, 2008 15:06:25 GMT -5
I don't think God minds if I keep building and designing refridgerators. Hey Chlorofluro- Carbons kill the ozone... Iono buddy  |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 15:18:30 GMT -5
Dun dun duuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnn......... Good point, Ive never even thought of that Even still, we have to remember that nothing began with the US. Everything is borrowed and blended (and later warped) by the US. Greek, Roman, and Latin is all kindsa embedded in our culture. I dont see anyone quitting their jobs and moving to Idaho to live off the land because of the symbols on the dollar. Yall still hustling for the green like everyone else. *shrug* It's all a matter of perspective and how far you want to take it. Everyone picks and chooses vices and virtues as it suits them personally. Eh....whatever. The ritual process of ALL d9 orgs are so steeped in different deities that no one can successfully contend otherwise. Most orgs have an OFFICIAL god/goddess associated with them that its not a secret. Last time I checked I didn't kneel at any shrines/altars to get my license, nor did I do pledge my heart/mind/ or anything else to anything. To liken that to the ritual intake of d9 orgs is crazy, but not unexpected. *shrugs* Whats the difference Jay. They have minerva and you have the Lady of Justice.... Why isnt it Jesus on the Cross.. You're upholding the law in the face of an ancient blended Greco-Roman goddess. These are the same people who tried and crucified your lord and saviour. How you think Jesus feels about that? " Since the Renaissance, Justitia has frequently been depicted as a bare-breasted woman carrying a sword and scales, and sometimes wearing a blindfold. Her modern iconography, which frequently adorns courthouses and courtrooms, conflates the attributes of several goddesses who embodied Right Rule for Greeks and Romans, blending Roman blindfolded Fortuna with Hellenistic Greek Tyche." |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Jun 5, 2008 15:19:45 GMT -5
All jokes aside VP, the Bible does speak to how to live in "Man's World" and living by "man's laws".... it's in there.
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