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Post by denounced on May 25, 2008 5:48:21 GMT -5
I thank God for you big brother-in-the-faith for contending for the faith once delivered to the saints. Your research done in "COMING APART AT THE SEAMS," is invaluable (in earthly money). I acquired the book from an ex soror (sigma gamma rho, you know the "Christian based group with the SKULL AND CROSS BONES on the crest) right after I began to put together a cd and dvd project concerning GLO's. She justed handed it to me in church one night. I was blessed to have done an interview with her on video! The info she gave will prove quite potent in the war against these anti-christian groups.
Charles Finney said that those who have taken oaths of secrecy to guard their frats HAVE ABSOLUTLEY NO CREDIBILITY when it comes to defending the virtues of the fraternity. They've pledged to hide and never reveal its secrets! How can they be trusted to speak to the uninitiated on behalf of the organization's goodness? They've promised to lie!!! They must think we're idiots to believe a word of their defense until they renounce their oath of secrecy!
I love you in the faith, brother
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Post by water on May 25, 2008 7:20:47 GMT -5
Amen
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Post by Cambist on May 26, 2008 0:32:33 GMT -5
How is a promise not to reveal information the same as a promise to lie. When you ask me a question, I simply refuse to answer. That's not lying. Now for those who do lie...I can't speak for them. But there is no promise to lie about the organization.
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Post by B Strugg on May 26, 2008 4:13:44 GMT -5
I've read a lot of the information provided by some of this research, and it doesn't make much sense. I don't understand what the big deal is in greek organizations saying they were built on Christian principles allowing those in with different faiths to become part of their organization. That' not ungodly at all. The only reason many people today are into their religion is because they were born into it...and who is any one to say that the next persons beliefs are wrong? Why can't their be unity and understanding based on the principle of two people from different backgrounds and religions wanting to come together for the greater good and help their community? What should be important is the belief in something at all....if I'm wrong, please correct me, I'm not standing here as a know it all, but as some one who believes people should believe and see what's underneath the surface.
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Post by denounced on May 26, 2008 7:45:38 GMT -5
"and who is any one to say that the next persons beliefs are wrong? Why can't their be unity and understanding based on the principle of two people from different backgrounds and religions wanting to come together for the greater good and help their community?" beautifulstruggle
I will tell you why beautifulstruggle, J0hn 14:6/Acts 4:12/Matthew 11:28-29/II Corinthians 6:14-18/II Corinthians 10:1-6/Ephesians 5:11
The focal point is Jesus, and NO other faith speaks of Jesus this way. Unequal yoking and exposing
For greater explanation- PM or call 919/278-8911
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Post by denounced on May 26, 2008 7:50:11 GMT -5
Concerning lying Camel- I guess you have a problem with Jesus, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Mary, Gabriel, God, etc. But it is understandable since the BIBLE is not your only source of reference concerning spiritual matters; please correct me if I am wrong.
But are these men and woman lying (liars)? Yes or no would be sufficient. But, well, you know, Cam's deep!!!!!!!!!! LOL!
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Post by frozenmenace on May 26, 2008 9:16:04 GMT -5
We get it!! We are all going to Hell because we can't possibly be true Christians and be members of Fraternities and Sororities. The fact that we have "secrets" is the ultimate sin, and is a first class ticket to the Inferno. Our rituals directly conflict with the Bible, and borders on pagan worship. The fact that we accept members of other religions goes to further prove that our organizations are bastions of sin because Jesus is the only Way. Did I miss anything?
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Post by Cambist on May 26, 2008 11:14:00 GMT -5
Concerning lying Camel- I guess you have a problem with Jesus, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Mary, Gabriel, God, etc. But it is understandable since the BIBLE is not your only source of reference concerning spiritual matters; please correct me if I am wrong. But are these men and woman lying (liars)? Yes or no would be sufficient. But, well, you know, Cam's deep!!!!!!!!!! LOL! No. Your second question has been answered in one word. To your first question... I do not have a problem with those you mentioned. Why would I? So on that point, you are incorrect. Having said that, you are correct in your statement that the Bible is not my only source of information on spiritual matters. |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 26, 2008 11:38:18 GMT -5
I've read a lot of the information provided by some of this research, and it doesn't make much sense. I don't understand what the big deal is in greek organizations saying they were built on Christian principles allowing those in with different faiths to become part of their organization. That' not ungodly at all. The only reason many people today are into their religion is because they were born into it...and who is any one to say that the next persons beliefs are wrong? Why can't their be unity and understanding based on the principle of two people from different backgrounds and religions wanting to come together for the greater good and help their community? What should be important is the belief in something at all....if I'm wrong, please correct me, I'm not standing here as a know it all, but as some one who believes people should believe and see what's underneath the surface. Well..................I like this answer! |
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Post by water on May 26, 2008 11:59:07 GMT -5
Thats what the NAACP and the URBAN LEAGUE are for.... people of different everything coming together for the community.
The BGLO"S are now a place for different religions to come together get blindfolded and take oaths together to do community service somebody better tell the Christians ....What happens when an open Satanist or a Wiccan wants to join your chapter .
AT the vote well they do believe in a god and they are pretty cool so lets let them in what could it hurt.........
I dont thank so...... IF someone was a known witch doctor or satanist they would get the big NO VOTE where i came in .... but you know what times are changing you got all kinds of witches up in the mix now but for the most part they still keep their CRAFT like homosexuality on the down low .
They get the letters then its like this is who i am . Ozzy Osborne t shirt under the frat jacket nothing but Triple 6 mafia and thuggish ruggish bone up in the cd changer smh
universal brotherhood of man the fatherhood of god is the backbone of the bglo's so i guess beatfulstruggle is on point
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Post by B Strugg on May 26, 2008 20:56:28 GMT -5
I highly doubt that if some one was a witch doctor or satanist OPNELY they would be voted in. I would give any one with a brain more credit than that. And I don't see why some one who is a witch doctor or satanist would be interested in a BGLO..being that it was founded on Christian principles...but that's just me.
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Post by Cambist on May 26, 2008 21:40:36 GMT -5
Uh oh....
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Post by bulls3y3 on May 26, 2008 22:08:18 GMT -5
And I don't see why some one who is a witch doctor or satanist would be interested in a BGLO..being that it was founded on Christian principles...but that's just me. isn't that the whole point though? that they aren't based on Christian principles? Who can really trace there organization's beginnings through the bible(i can!!!)? and instead of witch doctors and satanists, how about gangsters, homosexuals, drug dealers, etc. etc.? |
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Post by B Strugg on May 27, 2008 14:56:59 GMT -5
gangsters, homosexuals, and drug dealers more than likely can up in the same churches, and schools and whatever else that the next person did. Their issues go deeper than having "Christian" principles. These same peoples parents are probably sitting next to you in church acting all holy when their actions, and non parenting skills lowered these childrens self esteem so badly that they are going to such extremes to feel important...those who are gangsters...drug dealers...homosexuals...whores...etc are products of their environment..Read Native Son..excellent book.
Now that I said that...WHAT IS WRONG with letting a gangster or drug dealer in? If these types of people are in COLLEGE...carrying a 2.5 or higher in school...and are looking to join an organization based on SERVICE in order to help their communities...it seems to me that they aren't living that old lifestyle and is trying to better themselves. RIGHT? You tell me what REAL drug dealer and REAL gangster would be interested in a BGLO?
Homosexuality is obviously going to go either way...In my opnion, Christian principles were set in place to stop those who are judgemental and every one would accept one another at face value. Every one has a history...every one has secrets...while you're judging a BGLO/GLO for having what u feel are unsavory members, ur church brother could be at home molesting his children, beating his wife, hell..even you even you probably have some mess going on in your life that ur church may be like..who let this person into my church.
In closing..BGLO's are the black communities savior (not on any religious type stuff). We are already divided enough as a community, and these people came together and started organizations that raise self esteem, helps the community, and promotes pride in yourself and your history.
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Post by bulls3y3 on May 28, 2008 10:01:29 GMT -5
very well said struggle.
*exalted*
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 28, 2008 10:08:09 GMT -5
Once again BS, beautifully stated.
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Post by huey on May 28, 2008 15:13:14 GMT -5
What are Christian principles.
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Post by denounced on May 28, 2008 15:26:00 GMT -5
Your examples are all misguided. I knew players (DD's) in the frat. You say most gangsters grew up in churches; where do you think satanists and witches came from? To put it politely, when the church sacrifices truth on thee altar for acceptance, you get OOA.
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Post by denounced on May 28, 2008 15:27:57 GMT -5
What are Christian principles. Huwizzles has asked the million$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, most unanswered question among GLO's.  |
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Post by ReignMan19 on May 28, 2008 15:34:17 GMT -5
DEAD @ Huwizzle
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Post by B Strugg on May 28, 2008 20:05:28 GMT -5
lol..u smited me Bullseye? lol...I appreciate the exalt...lol...for some reason..a lot of folks don't like me around these parts.
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Post by bulls3y3 on May 28, 2008 21:08:02 GMT -5
yea, i know how you feel Bullseye gets no love  |
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Post by huey on Jun 6, 2008 10:38:20 GMT -5
What are Christian principles. Huwizzles has asked the million$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, most unanswered question among GLO's. rofl @ huwizzles and its the most unanswered question among Christian. |
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Post by denounced on Jun 12, 2008 4:56:04 GMT -5
Huey,
I will admit that it's a shame that some, many, a majority, most, etc. Christians are under SORRY Pastors. But have you ever asked this question directly to believers? What do they say?
And when I said, "most unanswered among GLO's", it very much included the Christians in them.
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Post by AKAShannon on Jul 2, 2008 0:37:39 GMT -5
I don't get it!!! BGLOs are wrong, but Christian Frats and Sororities are poppin up left and right. They have letters, calls, hand signs, and are strolling!
I asked my then pastor about BGLOs before joining. He told me that there were was nothing wrong with joining one, and that people who have a problem "really don't understand what the Bible is saying."
My pastor is not even Greek!
Do BGLOs member participate in actions unholy? Yes! Just as we have members in /on the church, choir, deacon board, usher board, and even the pulpit that are doing unholy things.
I can only speak for my org, and there is nothing unholy about it. I consider it another extention of Kingdom Building.
Some people wont set foot in a church, but they will come a AKA function, event, or cause!
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Jul 2, 2008 9:40:31 GMT -5
I don't get it!!! BGLOs are wrong, but Christian Frats and Sororities are poppin up left and right. They have letters, calls, hand signs, and are strolling!I asked my then pastor about BGLOs before joining. He told me that there were was nothing wrong with joining one, and that people who have a problem "really don't understand what the Bible is saying." My pastor is not even Greek! Do BGLOs member participate in actions unholy? Yes! Just as we have members in /on the church, choir, deacon board, usher board, and even the pulpit that are doing unholy things. I can only speak for my org, and there is nothing unholy about it. I consider it another extention of Kingdom Building. Some people wont set foot in a church, but they will come a AKA function, event, or cause! STROBELIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!! Christian orgs down BGLO's, but are hypocrites themselves. |
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Post by Julie Art on Jul 2, 2008 10:26:17 GMT -5
What Hyp said. As I said before, there are alot of hypocrites around here.
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Post by Robelite on Jul 2, 2008 10:40:17 GMT -5
What Hyp said. As I said before, there are alot of hypocrites around here. Church!!! (pun intended!) You betta speak , Juicy!  |
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Post by kaos1906 on Jul 3, 2008 13:49:06 GMT -5
I see nothing has changed in my absence. The Fire and Brimstone crew still at it.
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Post by Julie Art on Jul 3, 2008 13:53:36 GMT -5
Wait, wait, wait. Is that Kaos on line?
*rubs eyes*
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