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Post by Southie on May 19, 2008 19:55:46 GMT -5
Uh...she is dating men and they don't know the difference?
Interesting
Well, this is not your issue. This is something that he/she will have to deal with and you should stay of it. Its already a strange, but this is a personal choice and therefore, whatever happens. If its discovered at a latter date, and this person is accepted into the org, its a situation that he/she will need to figure out how to address.
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 19:56:31 GMT -5
38-26-38: You are absolutely right! I am her friend, and as much as I love her and appreciate our friendship..I personally didn't think it was fair to not atleast give the other party a chance to make the choise to accept her or not. And that is expecially for the men she has been dating. It's just a sad sad situation..
I think exposing her would be for the best. I guess I see it like let's say you're best friend is HIV positive and is sleeping with all these people. Are you obligated to tell or do you stay loyal t your friend? Though she isn't passing out disease....I still see it on the same level..any one tell me if I'm wrong...
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 19:59:22 GMT -5
That confidence goes beyond greek life. That is nobody's business except the men s/he dates and deals with. Moreover, Im assuming that you arent a member of the org so why would you cut your loyalty to a friend over a sorority? If it were my org you were interested in and I found out you did that, I'd make sure you didnt get in....ever. If you'd be willing to divulge such a serious a secret of a friend, I certainly wouldnt trust you with my sorority's sacred information.
Not being mean, Just keeping it real.
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Post by Southie on May 19, 2008 20:00:28 GMT -5
If you get yourself involved in this situation, you will allow some of the heat to brought upon you. This would come from the friend, members of the org, and maybe the college community. You have to be careful, when it comes to revealing someone else's business.
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 20:01:15 GMT -5
Cold: I am worried about that....It's a situation that if I had a choice I would have been like...i don't want to know your secrets...But I see her with guys and they have no freakin idea smilin and holdin hands and shit....like I can imagine their embarrassment and humiliation....Ahh i dunno
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 20:01:35 GMT -5
38-26-38: You are absolutely right! I am her friend, and as much as I love her and appreciate our friendship..I personally didn't think it was fair to not atleast give the other party a chance to make the choise to accept her or not. And that is expecially for the men she has been dating. It's just a sad sad situation.. I think exposing her would be for the best. I guess I see it like let's say you're best friend is HIV positive and is sleeping with all these people. Are you obligated to tell or do you stay loyal t your friend? Though she isn't passing out disease....I still see it on the same level..any one tell me if I'm wrong... Having friend knowingly spreading HIV (which can be a FELONY) is not even in the same category is divulging to people her personal business. That's like having a gay friend and you going to tell everyone your friend is gay rather than letting them come out on their own. |
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 20:02:31 GMT -5
If you get yourself involved in this situation, you will allow some of the heat to brought upon you. This would come from the friend, members of the org, and maybe the college community. You have to be careful, when it comes to revealing someone else's business. For real... |
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 19, 2008 20:04:24 GMT -5
38-26-38: You are absolutely right! I am her friend, and as much as I love her and appreciate our friendship.. I personally didn't think it was fair to not atleast give the other party a chance to make the choise to accept her or not. And that is expecially for the men she has been dating. It's just a sad sad situation..I think exposing her would be for the best. I guess I see it like let's say you're best friend is HIV positive and is sleeping with all these people. Are you obligated to tell or do you stay loyal t your friend? Though she isn't passing out disease....I still see it on the same level..any one tell me if I'm wrong... At the bolded: IT'S NOT YOUR CHOICE FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD ACCEPT HER. I say that in all caps to think about it like this. If you do tell them, they gonna look at you crazy! So who is REALLY gonna look bad.....her or you? It's still not my business to tell if my friend has HIV. It would HER RESPONSIBILITY to tell them. Just like it's your friend's. Once again I say, if you value her friendship, keep it to yourself, and if and when she decides to come out about that, be her support system instead of her paparazzi. Ask yourself, is telling worth your friendship? Cuz I feel the fact that you are contemplating about telling shows how much you REALLY value her friendship. *If I had her number I'd tell on you! LOL!* |
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 20:11:44 GMT -5
Yup Soror....
That's a character issue, IMO.
Now, if I knew someone was knowingly spreading a deadly disease, I dont know what I'd do specifically, but I'd do something. But in this case, this person has been living their life as a woman for far more years than s/he's even known the poster. To divulge something like that for something so petty (for all extensive purposes) and possibly ruin someone's life or worse, is cruel.
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 20:12:26 GMT -5
1913Priss: I totally 100% understand where you're coming from and I don't think you're being mean, I appreciate your honesty. I am not cutting ties with her over the sorority, I'm saying give the sorority/men a chance to choose. When i was debating the situation...I looked at it from all sides of the situation, and the fact that I haven't said anything to any one shows that I am being loyal to her. But as i stated in a previous post, I decided to not say anything.....I would just hate to be pointed out as some one who was aware of the truth and didn't let any one know. And I wasn't going to walk around campus with fliers blasting her out or anything like that...I don't even know who to tell in the first place....but my first mind just said...what she's doing isn't right.
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 20:17:48 GMT -5
I feel you but it's really not your place.
How is it wrong? She is living her life as a woman. Now I could see if s/he was DL or something or it was something that would really affect the lives of the people in the org. If I'd never know without her telling me, then I dont think I'd need to know b/c I certainly wouldnt ask! LOL
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 19, 2008 20:19:44 GMT -5
It's not you to judge her either. Either way you look at it, telling her PERSONAL business looks bad on you, and trust me, if you are pursuing any orginzation, where SISTERHOOD is one of the important factors, and here you are snitching on your SO CALLED friend.....what do you look like?
Honestly it feels you gonna tell, I hope you are prepared for the grave you dug.........
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 20:26:41 GMT -5
I appreciate your feedback 1913Priss and 38-26-38: I've been sitting on this info for a little over year and I just personally felt bad. The way it went in my head as far as bringing the truth out went way smoother than what I and seeing that the reality of things if I did tell. It is her choice to tell and my job is to support her as i have been...which is why I have kept it all anonymous. I was just confused and have been for a while...but you two definitely showed me the side I have been leaning more towards in the first place. I would hate for my concern to be mistaken for me just being a bitch.
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 19, 2008 20:30:01 GMT -5
Honestly you wouldn't like a bitch.......just way worse. But I'm glad you have thought about it. Just be her support system...........that's the best thing you can do.
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 20:30:56 GMT -5
lol...nah I'm not telling. I brought it to you all because I'd get unbiased opinions here, not something that would make me feel better. But at the end of the day you are right...no it is not my business to speak on it...
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Post by Sapphire on May 19, 2008 20:34:25 GMT -5
This is interesting. Just curious what makes you so sure people will find out all the sudden now that she's interested in a sorority? I'm pretty sure most orgs don't ask if you've had gender reassignment surgery on the application. If she told you in confident and you do consider her a friend, I would let it go. Unless there's some freaky ish going down, folks shouldn't know what's going on down there. Plus what if she doesn't make it? Now you've outed her and could possibly get her killed by a dude she's slept with. What if she does make it and you tell, it's not going to look good for you if she tells everyone you can't keep a secret. I'm not understanding why you feel you have an obligation to her org of interest, your org of interest and the students on campus. Although strange, this is her thing, just pretend you don't know.
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 20:37:31 GMT -5
Besides...look at Nupey....the Kappas let him in, he's the best NUPE ALIVE and they have NOOOOOOOOOOOO idea!!  J/k Nupey you know I love ya baby!!! |
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 20:48:54 GMT -5
Sapphire: I never said I had a loyalty to her org of interst...If I did write that, it was a typo. The reason why I was concerned for her joining an org is honestly as ignorant as this sounds...I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF BACKGROUND RESEARCH YALL DO..lol...and I spoke that to her a long time ago when she told me. I asked her did she think it would be safe to join an org not knowing what research they do. But at the time of me going back and forth with to tell or not to tell....I was looking at the safety of her....how these men have been bamboozled...and like I said in the first post, how it would open the doors for other taboo type things to hapen orgs. It's ok to do you, but when things...such as this affects more than just her living as a woman...I didn't think it was right...but again...while I was already dead set on just not speakin on it....I have been further proven to that the best I can do is shut up and call it a day. And if the day ever comes that she wants to step out with the truth..Imma sit there with the rest of the crowd lookin like WOW! I had no idea..lol...
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Post by THE emPRISS on May 19, 2008 21:05:04 GMT -5
LOL pretty much. That's one of those things you take to the grave....unless of course she wants to get with your brother! LOL
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Post by B Strugg on May 19, 2008 21:19:17 GMT -5
lmao...OOO girl no...lol..lmao..lol...that would be a cold ass prank to play on him..lmao..now that I wouldn't allow to happen.
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Post by AKAShannon on May 19, 2008 21:20:08 GMT -5
Lord have mercy!
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Post by Sapphire on May 19, 2008 21:36:30 GMT -5
It could be that people already know are suspicious about him/her. And maybe he/she confided in someone else. Who knows... weird situation all around.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 20, 2008 8:36:52 GMT -5
Okay, I was thinking about this last night...
Since WHEN has a doctor allowed a transgender medical procedure to be performed on a HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT?! This story doesn't sound right to me.
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Post by Colourgirlie on May 20, 2008 8:40:25 GMT -5
I was thinking about that also Crim. I came to the conclusion that the child must have been a hermaphrodite and had parental consent. That's really the only way. On another note, there was a case in al-Mamlakah (The Kingdom a.k.a. Saudi), where five sisters had gender correction operations to become men because they had a condition called "male pseudo hemaphrodite", which refers to someone born with male chromosomes and testes — usually in the abdominal cavity — while the external genitalia are usually female. Article 1Article 2Ironically, Iran allows the most gender reassignment and correction operations in the Middle East. |
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Post by Southie on May 20, 2008 8:45:39 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I am wondering about the validity of this "friend".
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Post by Colourgirlie on May 20, 2008 8:55:41 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I am wondering about the validity of this "friend". <--- agrees 100% |
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Post by water on May 20, 2008 9:16:16 GMT -5
Beautifulstruggle why not share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with him.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 20, 2008 9:20:27 GMT -5
That's not gonna reverse the medical procedure though.
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Post by Julie Art on May 20, 2008 9:21:27 GMT -5
This whole things sounds off the wall. I was gonna comment, but this just sounds so far fetched. And if this IS true, this is a hot mess.
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Post by water on May 20, 2008 9:27:29 GMT -5
bad reports abound but God can do the impossible
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