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Post by Iceman on May 9, 2008 10:31:51 GMT -5
We all probably believe we belong to the best Organization, and are sometimes never hesitant to let that be known.
But here’s the challenge - Take a moment to complement another Org and it’s members outside of your own and give them some positive dap. Can you do it? Brothers of Alpha, Omega, Kappa, Sigma & Iota… give up dap to the other male orgs in the D9 and Ladies do the same for your orgs. This may have been done before on the old OO, but my memory is kind of foggy….Anyway..I’ll start this:
Omega Psi Phi – I dig the strong sense of Brotherhood the Ques seem to have. Although it could exist, there doesn’t seem to be as much division amongst it’s members as I’ve seen in other orgs including my own. While the Omegas have the perception of being the “loud and wild” guys (which for some is true), I generally find these brothers to be funny and plain old good guys to get along with. I have good friends that are Omegas as well as two older cousins who are. These guys have a deep passion for their org and have no problem repping it wherever they see fit…haha. I also gotta say that I dig their (seemingly universal) overall protocol on making sure brothers are straight and later stay on point. Good dudes.
Phi Beta Sigma – Some of the coolest and proudest dudes of their org I know. I never knew a Sigma that I disliked as these dudes are real chill and seem to be able to get along with anyone. These brothers probably have the tightest bond with their perceived sister counterpart. For what it’s worth, the ones I know can throw a mean BBQ too..haha. While the brothers of APA are tremendous steppers as well, speaking personally, the only time any step team I was involved with ever took a Loss….was to the Sigma’s. It’s been a good while since Ive been to a step show, but back in the day the Sigma step teams out of the East (ecspecially New York) use to kill it. I'll give it to you..Ya’ll dudes get busy.
Kappa Alpha Psi – Ok, so ya’ll may see me and Nupey go back in forth in jest at times. Well that stems back to the competitive rivalry that has existed between the Alphas and Nupes going back a long way. Anyhow….While it may “appear” that some Nupes may come off as arrogant and cocky, I just think that they are really confident. Confidence is a good trait to have so you cant be mad at that. As a Frat, they appear to function as a close knit family who is very proud of their history. I never met one that wasn’t cordial to me and you can always count on Nupes to help bring a certain fun element to the party. Also, while it’s not my thing, I do respect the skill and dexterity it takes for some Kappa’s to maneuver their cane’s (or is it Kane’s?) during stepping and strolling routines.
Iota Phi Theta – Sadly, I don’t know one Iota and their chapter was already suspended from my school before I got there. Just going strictly off of hearsay, I always hear good things about these brothers. Although they came in the door much later then the others, it’s brothers very proud of their Frat, and their numbers appear to be growing. Honestly, reading Happy’s list of items he loved about his org (in another thread) made me have more respect for the IPT movement.
There it is. How about it…Can you do it?
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Post by coldfront06 on May 9, 2008 10:39:55 GMT -5
Most Kappas I know are cool dudes. My best friend is a Kappa, and I think Kappa Alpha Psi is a good organization. I think that they could even claim to be on our level when it comes to the ladies...lol.
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Post by Bathroom Model on May 9, 2008 11:18:44 GMT -5
A lady that is truly confident in herself can give another lady of compliment and not feel like her status is jeoporapy.
AKA- I love that as an org you seem to emphasis class something that I think young women today can learn from and definitly lacking from today's youth.
Delta- Very strong women that are really about making moves in their community and at the party. At my campus they were great steppers.
Zeta- so sisterly sisters I must say. I love their non-elitist approach and you got to love anyone that reps that royal blue.
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Post by Blu on May 9, 2008 11:32:40 GMT -5
Alphas - Truly about the business of their Fraternity. Some of the best steppers out there (When I hear about a stepshow I always think the winner is going to be Sigma or Alpha lol) They always show me Divine 9 Brotherhood when they realize I'm in a Frat also.
Kappas - Always seem knowledgeable about the history of their Fraternity. Other than Sigmas, most of my friends are Kappas so I have alot of respect for them. Definitely have alot of skill with the cane (Tuskegee had some serious Cane Masters)
Omegas - Always represent their Frat with high energy and spirit. Always seems like they have a strong Fraternal Bond throughout their membership.
Iotas - Very committed to their Fraternity and resilient. I tend to believe if you chose Iota it is because you really wanted to be an Iota. I respect them for that dedication. Also, really making a come up in recent stepshows.
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Post by coldfront06 on May 9, 2008 11:34:21 GMT -5
^^^^Same here. When I go to a step show, I expect either the Alphas or Sigmas will win, and I'm never surprised when the Sigmas do.
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Post by Iceman on May 9, 2008 11:37:48 GMT -5
^^^^Same here. When I go to a step show, I expect either the Alphas or Sigmas will win, and I'm never surprised when the Sigmas do. Cold, you and Blu aint lying. You know Ive seen Kappas get busy in step shows, but everyone cant always be in unison when twirling them canes. So I believe in some judges eyes...when too many canes are dropping too many times....it takes something away from the performance. Although I do recognize it is quite the skill to manuever it and ecspecially to have a number of brother in unison with it.
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Post by happy1 on May 9, 2008 11:40:04 GMT -5
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/08/AR2008050803124_2.htmlWe will start with Alpha. Since I work in DC, the above article impressed the hell out of me. Kappa - The Mayor of DC is a Kappa, and the brother who first pointed out to me that greek life had a place to me was a Kappa and a Mason. He always carried himself in a manner that spoke of confident humility (they are not mutually exclusive). Sigma - When I was researching fraternities, a NJ State Trooper took the time to call me at home and spoke to me for about an hour regarding various topics. He gave me a number to call him anytime if I wanted more information. That almost did it for me. Omega - From working with the DC Pan Hell, I have been to the Omega House and spoken with some members. They seem to exemplify "friendship is essential to the soul". They seem to be type of brothers who would come get you at 3:30 on a cold rainy morning regardless of where you were are or what you did to get there. I also have hung out with Damie and he is the personification of an Omega Man.
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Post by Blu on May 9, 2008 11:42:37 GMT -5
I admit. I give the Kappas alot of credit when they put on a show and don't slip up once on the twirling. There is definitely a high difficulty factor to it, but I haven't seen that many teams that have mastered it without a couple of cane drops. Last year at Tuskegee Homecoming, I have to admit the Kappas had one of the best shows I've ever seen. I wasn't too upset at the results of the show lol.
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Post by Iceman on May 9, 2008 11:47:54 GMT -5
I admit. I give the Kappas alot of credit when they put on a show and don't slip up once on the twirling. There is definitely a high difficulty factor to it, but I haven't seen that many teams that have mastered it without a couple of cane drops. Last year at Tuskegee Homecoming, I have to admit the Kappas had one of the best shows I've ever seen. I wasn't too upset at the results of the show lol. Blue....do you or any of the Sigma step teams you know still use canes or sticks in shows? Ive seen some use them back in the day that were quite nice with it. I know some of your members got a thing going with the Kappas about the origin of the canes or sticks......never really knew anything too deep about that though.
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Post by Southie on May 9, 2008 11:54:16 GMT -5
In the midwest, both the Zetas and Sigmas still use sticks/canes/staffs
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Post by Blu on May 9, 2008 11:54:34 GMT -5
I haven't really seen that many chapters that actually use the cane in routines anymore. I didn't use them when I was in undergrad. Its a shame because when I was in undergrad, alot of the alumni Frat would complain about the cane not being used anymore. I've seen some use the long cane, but that was back in 2000.
I never argued about the cane origin because I don't really carry one often so I never saw a point lol. I've only heard arguments about who stepped with canes first. Not sure where the argument about who had them first came from.
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Post by Blu on May 9, 2008 11:55:47 GMT -5
In the midwest, both the Zetas and Sigmas still use sticks/canes/staffs Yeah I see the staffs and sticks more than the canes. I have seen a rise in more Sigmas twirling canes though.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 9, 2008 12:48:38 GMT -5
Hmm.....
AKA's: Well, they emphasize class a lot. As long as the ones that emphasize it show it in a "classy" and "non-arrogant" way, I think they're cool. I've met some AKA's like that. I have to admit though, with the undergraduate chapter at the school I graduated from, that I don't really reach out to a lot of them because the arrogance is a turn off. Older AKA's tend to let that go and that's who I find myself drawn to the most, as far as AKA's go.
Zeta's: Like glamor said, they really do show themselves to be a strong sisterhood. And they tend to be welcoming and tolerant of other sororities as well. I find they're really friendly and don't mind talking to aspirants about the qualities of their sorority. I have a lot of friends that are Zetas.
SGRho: Kind of the same attitude I have about Zeta, I have it about SGRho. I tend to really like SGRhos. They are really down to earth people who don't mind what people have to say about them. They generally have a quiet confidence about themselves that doesn't really have to be flaunted because you can just see it.
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Post by happy1 on May 9, 2008 12:57:25 GMT -5
@crim - I met one particular AKA at last years DC Greek Picnic. She had a Doctorate from GW University, and while we were playing dominoes, she came over and sat with us . She said she simply liked meeting new people. I recently ran into her at a PanHell mtg, and she remembered me. To me, she seemed the personification of what AKA stands for, not the caricature that some of the younger sorors seem to exemplify in a somewhat curious light.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 9, 2008 13:08:39 GMT -5
And what is that personification Happy? As opposed to a caricature that I'm assuming you are thinking I see?
Everybody is not the same, I see what you mean. But I am still young, almost 2 years out of undergrad. If you came down here to my school, you would see exactly what I mean.
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Post by happy1 on May 9, 2008 13:19:03 GMT -5
@ Crim - That "Pretty" is a state of mind that speaks of a persons self-esteem, not vanity. That the mirror she holds up ensures she remains an example for young women to emulate, not to simply check her hair and makeup. It's as you said, regarding older sorors (and frats also) letting superficialty go and embracing the common thread we all share. This particular sister of AKA impressed the hell out of me.
P.S. Iotas get cracked on from time to time regarding T.C. Carson (played Kyle Barker in "Living Single"). That show was created and Executive Produced by Yvette Lee Bowser (AKA from Stanford University). Without a sister from AKA, chances are no show, no TC Carson. See how we all can be linked? ;D
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Post by ReignMan19 on May 9, 2008 13:22:04 GMT -5
@ Crim - That "Pretty" is a state of mind that speaks of a persons self-esteem, not vanity. That the mirror she holds up ensures she remains an example for young women to emulate, not to simply check her hair and makeup. It's as you said, regarding older sorors (and frats also) letting superficialty go and embracing the common thread we all share. This particular sister of AKA impressed the hell out of me. That was a very good description...
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Post by Bathroom Model on May 9, 2008 13:23:25 GMT -5
just what I was going to say. @ Crim - That "Pretty" is a state of mind that speaks of a persons self-esteem, not vanity. That the mirror she holds up ensures she remains an example for young women to emulate, not to simply check her hair and makeup. It's as you said, regarding older sorors (and frats also) letting superficialty go and embracing the common thread we all share. This particular sister of AKA impressed the hell out of me. That was a very good description...
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Post by Southie on May 9, 2008 13:26:29 GMT -5
I get along with members of each sorority.
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 9, 2008 13:31:58 GMT -5
@ Crim - That "Pretty" is a state of mind that speaks of a persons self-esteem, not vanity. That the mirror she holds up ensures she remains an example for young women to emulate, not to simply check her hair and makeup. It's as you said, regarding older sorors (and frats also) letting superficialty go and embracing the common thread we all share. This particular sister of AKA impressed the hell out of me. P.S. Iotas get cracked on from time to time regarding T.C. Carson (played Kyle Barker in "Living Single"). That show was created and Executive Produced by Yvette Lee Bowser (AKA from Stanford University). Without a sister from AKA, chances are no show, no TC Carson. See how we all can be linked? ;D I think you may be misunderstanding me. I am not saying that all AKA's who hold up the mirror are arrogant, and therefore I don't like/can't relate to them. You are absolutely right, the one's that take the symbolism of the "mirror" and being "pretty" and convey that in a positive message, are the one's that I have mad respect for. But In My Experience, the ones at this school are immature, have low self-esteem, and use the sorority as a tool for status. They get off on making themselves seem as though they're above others, and they put people down readily to make themselves feel better. There is a situation down here with them also that makes me have zero respect for them (the AKA's at my school). It's not in my nature to generalize, so by no means am I saying ALL are like that. All I can go by is my experience. Hell I'm sure some of the women in the sorority at this school aren't like that. But unfortunately they become lumped into the crowd when they fall into the trends as some of the less than savory ones. BUT I'm also sure that can describe any chapter of any sorority at any given time.
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Post by Iceman on May 9, 2008 13:41:01 GMT -5
@ Crim - That "Pretty" is a state of mind that speaks of a persons self-esteem, not vanity. That the mirror she holds up ensures she remains an example for young women to emulate, not to simply check her hair and makeup. It's as you said, regarding older sorors (and frats also) letting superficialty go and embracing the common thread we all share. This particular sister of AKA impressed the hell out of me. P.S. Iotas get cracked on from time to time regarding T.C. Carson (played Kyle Barker in "Living Single"). That show was created and Executive Produced by Yvette Lee Bowser (AKA from Stanford University). Without a sister from AKA, chances are no show, no TC Carson. See how we all can be linked? ;D Didnt know TC was an Iota. I met him a few years back at a Comedy Show. I actually think he is a comedian now. Anyway, homie was in one of my all time favorite movies..John Carpenters "The Thing".
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Post by happy1 on May 9, 2008 13:44:54 GMT -5
He is speaking at our Summer Conference in LA next month. He pledged at U of Illinois in 84.
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Post by Iceman on May 9, 2008 13:50:57 GMT -5
He is speaking at our Summer Conference in LA next month. He pledged at U of Illinois in 84. LOL...My Bad Happy...I was confusing TC with TK Carter. TK Carter was in The Thing as well as Good Times and other shows.
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Post by Blu on May 9, 2008 13:54:55 GMT -5
He is speaking at our Summer Conference in LA next month. He pledged at U of Illinois in 84. LOL...My Bad Happy...I was confusing TC with TK Carter. TK Carter was in The Thing as well as Good Times and other shows. I was just about to say I don't remember Kyle Barker in The Thing LOL
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Post by Southie on May 9, 2008 14:01:20 GMT -5
He is speaking at our Summer Conference in LA next month. He pledged at U of Illinois in 84. ...I have seen him on campus, and that is when I found out he was an Iota. I noticed he made some "unannounced" visits, particularly during the Spring semester. ...just messing with you Happy!
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Post by RadiantRose on May 9, 2008 14:15:05 GMT -5
Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority-I'd have to say that I really respect these ladies based on what sort of impact the members I've come across have had on me. To be honest, I didn't know about the sorority before I went to college, until an upperclassmen that had taken me under her wing had pledge the fall semester of my freshman year. I experienced a pretty embarrassing situation with a couple of them, and not once did they make me feel bad about it (even though I'm sure they had a laugh at my expense when I wasn't around lol) A year after I graduated, I became friends with another SGRho and I was always able to hang out with her and a ton of her sorors and not once did I feel like the out of place GDI. Me and that friend eventually had a falling out (LOL) but I still considered SGRho's to be very nice ladies. I liked seeing the sisterhood that they shared with each other, and how they had no problems embracing me. Of course my heart and interest laid elsewhere, but I still have luv for SGRho. Even after I crossed AKA, all the gifts I've received from women in other sororities came from SGRho's and they were all happy for me. They've solidified the fact that sisterhood doesn't start and end in your own sorority. Delta Sigma Theta-I've got several relatives in my family who are Deltas, and they all exude strength. I've always loved the fact that they don't take any mess from anyone lol. I'll never forget seeing the drawing of a woman throwing up the 'mid when I was younger, and thinking I'd just seen the super secret Delta handsign and I wasn't supposed to know what it was and tearfully confessing to my aunt that I knew what she and her sisters did lol. Funny thing is, although I received numerous phone calls asking me if I'd lost my mind after I became an AKA, no one ever congratulated me. Hmmmm...lol. But this is a compliment thread and not the place to discuss my feelings on that. Zeta Phi Beta-I actually don't know any Zetas on a personal basis, but I think Leja's cool lol. I was in the mall last weekend and the Zetas were holding an event, and I stopped to chat with a few of them. Hopefully over time I'll get to know more of them.
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Post by Robelite on May 9, 2008 14:43:48 GMT -5
I know outstanding and successful members of each of the D9s. I remain impressed with each org's national programs and how dilligently the respective members work toward acheiving the goals of those programs. I've been BLESSED enough to have really good friends in each of them...some of them are as close to me as my own brothers! Despite the usually "good natured" jawing that goes on back and forth, I'll stand up for any of my fellow greeks. I think you may have detected that by the way I have to deal with the anti-greek "prophets" on here from time to time.
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Post by happy1 on May 9, 2008 14:49:55 GMT -5
Exalt you for phrasing "anti-greek "prophets".
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Post by Bathroom Model on May 9, 2008 14:57:41 GMT -5
aww thanks 1908, I must say aka were cool in ug 2, Got my first job( campus job) through a aka hook up. Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority-I'd have to say that I really respect these ladies based on what sort of impact the members I've come across have had on me. To be honest, I didn't know about the sorority before I went to college, until an upperclassmen that had taken me under her wing had pledge the fall semester of my freshman year. I experienced a pretty embarrassing situation with a couple of them, and not once did they make me feel bad about it (even though I'm sure they had a laugh at my expense when I wasn't around lol) A year after I graduated, I became friends with another SGRho and I was always able to hang out with her and a ton of her sorors and not once did I feel like the out of place GDI. Me and that friend eventually had a falling out (LOL) but I still considered SGRho's to be very nice ladies. I liked seeing the sisterhood that they shared with each other, and how they had no problems embracing me. Of course my heart and interest laid elsewhere, but I still have luv for SGRho. Even after I crossed AKA, all the gifts I've received from women in other sororities came from SGRho's and they were all happy for me. They've solidified the fact that sisterhood doesn't start and end in your own sorority. Delta Sigma Theta-I've got several relatives in my family who are Deltas, and they all exude strength. I've always loved the fact that they don't take any mess from anyone lol. I'll never forget seeing the drawing of a woman throwing up the 'mid when I was younger, and thinking I'd just seen the super secret Delta handsign and I wasn't supposed to know what it was and tearfully confessing to my aunt that I knew what she and her sisters did lol. Funny thing is, although I received numerous phone calls asking me if I'd lost my mind after I became an AKA, no one ever congratulated me. Hmmmm...lol. But this is a compliment thread and not the place to discuss my feelings on that. Zeta Phi Beta-I actually don't know any Zetas on a personal basis, but I think Leja's cool lol. I was in the mall last weekend and the Zetas were holding an event, and I stopped to chat with a few of them. Hopefully over time I'll get to know more of them.
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Post by frozenmenace on May 9, 2008 15:38:19 GMT -5
Omega Psi Phi - I admire their pride and esteem for their brotherhood. The Grad Omegas I have come across have been men about business who also know how to have a good time. They are down to earth brothers who not only display mad love for their own frat, but they seem to have a high level of respect for the other fraternities as well (At least the older ones that I have met).
Kappa Alpha Psi - I have a number of Kappa friends and they are all cool as hell!
Phi Beta Sigma - These brothers definitely practice what they preach when it comes to inclusion. I have had some experiences where I was the only Alpha at a Blue and White gathering, but I was never made to feel like an outsider.
Iota Phi Theta - I can't say a whole lot about this frat because I honestly don't know any. I do admire the fact that their founders dared to be different.
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