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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 9:53:16 GMT -5
Nupey, I apologize for the slight hijack. How have you been?
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Post by Nupey on May 16, 2008 9:54:20 GMT -5
I'm good and yourself BK? Its been a minute!
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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 10:03:15 GMT -5
I know, I know. Imma have to do much better.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 10:36:09 GMT -5
Listen NOPE any and everything you have stated I have turned on its head. When did Diggs go and speak with Woodrow Wilson?
You grasping at straws niggah so since you want to be disrespectful I'll lay more things concrete.
First you say their is a letter THEN you say will it was plausible that a merger was discussed. WHICH IS IT NIGGA? Stop being lukewarm and pick a fucking side. You don't know shit about the bruhz and are quick to regurgitate shit that you hear as I have watched you repeat things that have written on these boards.
THE FACTS and this is it NOPE okay...
Campbell C. Johnson, George E. Brice, Jesse Heslip, William Stuart Nelson, and William I. Barnes had a meeting with Woodrow Wilson in 1916 as concern to establishing a Negro Officer Training Program. They were only given 10 mins but it went well beyond the time. The president of the United States was so impressed that after the meeting he stated and I directly quote: “Gentlemen, I do not know where the camp will be. I do not know when it will be established, but I promise you that it will be established, and in a few days you will hear from me." END QUOTE
The PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES communicated with George W. Cook another OMEGA MAN who was the Secretary of HU that the Camp would be started and to start holding sign ups. This happened in JUNE 1916. The WAR DEPT PICKED FORT DES MOINES, IA not Omega.
We sent 14 men and 14 finished. Of those 14 men Frank Coleman, Edgar A. Love, Walter Mazyck and Charles Young (who would later become Colonel) ALL WENT.
WE MADE 27 MEN at the CAMP AND ALL WERE FROM SCHOOLS DOWN SOUTH! I will state them again with the states so you can get it... MOREHOUSE-GA, FISK-TN, SHAW-NC, TALLEDEGA-AL, VIRGINIA UNION-VA, BIDDLE(NOW JC SMITH)-NC, WEST VA STATE-WV So if Omega sought to expand west why not make men from schools in the Midwest or west? You have flawed fucking logic.
You don't wanna know the truth NOPE. You seek to spread hearsay. I have provided you the facts.
Muthafuck your letter that didn’t even name Edgar A Love as the GB in 1914. You could’ve googled that simp. Why if they were such great friends would Diggs not mention his name? You say this was written about 50 years later? Suspect and beyond.
Hop off the bruhz nuts and grow some. You're not going to find an Omega Man who is tighter on his shit than me simp.
Oh btw shut the fuck up about your coat of arms lie too simp. We established ours on Nov 17, 1911 and negotiated with Jewelers Nov 23, 1911. Grow the fuck up and stop spreading hearsay.
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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 10:37:31 GMT -5
Uh, hi VP. It's me - BKPearl.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 10:39:34 GMT -5
Hey wassup sistah how are you doing?
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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 10:42:23 GMT -5
TGIF, that's all I can say mayne!!
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 10:45:42 GMT -5
I hear that get your party on for me and do EVERYTHING I would do... HA!
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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 10:49:01 GMT -5
VP, you're so bad!!
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Post by Nupey on May 16, 2008 10:57:52 GMT -5
1917-You grasping at straws niggah so since you want to be disrespectful I'll lay more things concrete. You are an idiot. I said that there IS A LETTER, and I asked YOU why isn't it Plausible THAT this could've happened.All of this means less that the DIRT UNDER MY FEET, It has NO relevance to this discussion. You are just Throwing isht out there to be HEARD...How so VD? How is my LOGIC flawed? How? Were YOU THERE? Do you have any proof that your founders had NO INTEREST WHAT SO EVER to at least get a few chapters WEST?Not really, you've just stuck your head in the sand again. You've provided YOUR SPECULATION. I only provided what was WRITTEN BY MY FOUNDER.Why google it VD when it DOESNT MATTER? The letter from Jesse Jerome Peters to Byron is NOT THE SAME LETTER that Diggs and Omega GP corresponded with. Jesse Jerome was just DESCRIBING the events of that time, and he recalled having to deliver a letter from Diggs regarding a possible Merger that Both Frats have been discussing. I told your dumb @$$ that the this is in the JOURNAL written By Byron Kenneth Armstrong, and included in that journal is a letter written by JJ Peters DESCRIBING the Possible merger. I'm sure the ACTUAL CORRESPONDECE from both frats included the names of their respective Presidents.I could care less about your "sht" that you THINK you are tight on. I'm not disputing OMEGA history, I'm only telling you KAPPA HISTORY. This is what happened in KAN. What are you talking about? When did I mention a coat-of-arms in this conversation? Whats your point? Our coat of arms was completed in the Summer of 1911 while Byron was in Cape May, New Jersey. So what is your point? All you can do is huff and puff, post irrelevant information that has nothing to do with this convo, and call names....lol...you're like a 3 year old child VD.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 11:00:30 GMT -5
NOPE THE CAMP AT FORT DES MOINES , IA CLOSED IN OCTOBER of 1917
WHY THE fuck WOULD DIGGS MEET WITH WILSON ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND WAS CLOSED AFTER THE FACT?
WTF NOPE
lol
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 11:01:16 GMT -5
STOP LYING NOPE...
The more your type, the more I will make you look like an ass!
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Post by Nupey on May 16, 2008 11:03:10 GMT -5
NOPE THE CAMP AT FORT DES MOINES , IA CLOSED IN OCTOBER of 1917 WHY THE fuck WOULD DIGGS MEET WITH WILSON ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND WAS CLOSED AFTER THE FACT? WTF NOPE lol Who said he was meeting ABOUT THAT AND AT THE SAME LOCATION? I said he CORRESPONDED with him. I didnt say about WHAT!? I told you, diggs started the ROTC Program in Indiana. They wereN'T meeting for the same things Omega was meeting him about. IDIOT.
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 16, 2008 11:06:02 GMT -5
This is getting good.....................
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 16, 2008 11:06:56 GMT -5
This is getting good..................... My sentiments exactly soror...
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Post by Southie on May 16, 2008 11:11:49 GMT -5
I have literally forgotten the question.
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Post by Cambist on May 16, 2008 11:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 11:20:20 GMT -5
1917- Fort Des Moines, IA received 1,0000 black men for training from June of 1916 to Oct 1917. The camp Closed after that NOPE www.fortdesmoines.org/history.shtmlYou are an idiot. I said that there IS A LETTER, and I asked YOU why isn't it Plausible THAT this could've happened.YOUR letter didnt even state Edgar A Love by name. If Diggs and Love were friends s you say why wasnt he mentioned? Oh my fault you said he forgot.. All of this means less that the DIRT UNDER MY FEET, It has NO relevance to this discussion. You are just Throwing isht out there to be HEARD...Me showing you how the Fort Des Moines, IA facility and how it related to black soldiers int legitmate info? Ha! The War Dept picked IA not Omega NOPE. Where ever the facility was going to be the bruhz were going.How so VD? How is my LOGIC flawed? How? Were YOU THERE? Do you have any proof that your founders had NO INTEREST WHAT SO EVER to at least get a few chapters WEST? The proof NOPE is where the chapters were. What the fuck don't you understand. Can you read? I showed you were our chapters were established. What more don't you get. We wanted to go south and we went south period. I gave you the States. If Omega wanted to spread West why were 85% of our chapters between 1911-1920 in the south. Look at were we held our Conclaves. Just stop NOPE. You're not using logic. History doesnt lie.Not really, you've just stuck your head in the sand again. You've provided YOUR SPECULATION. I only provided what was WRITTEN BY MY FOUNDER. Speculation..... Negro please I'm speaking from A History of THE Omega Psi Phi Fraternity...if I tap into THE History of Omega Psi Phi, A Negro Brotherhood of College Men this convo wouldve been over a long time ago.Why google it VD when it DOESNT MATTER? The letter from Jesse Jerome Peters to Byron is NOT THE SAME LETTER that Diggs and Omega GP corresponded with. Jesse Jerome was just DESCRIBING the events of that time, and he recalled having to deliver a letter from Diggs regarding a possible Merger that Both Frats have been discussing. I told your dumb @$$ that the this is in the JOURNAL written By Byron Kenneth Armstrong, and included in that journal is a letter written by JJ Peters DESCRIBING the Possible merger. I'm sure the ACTUAL CORRESPONDECE from both frats included the names of their respective Presidents. Same references that state Digg spoke with Wilson in 1917 about a camp that was ALREADY in EXISTENCE. LOL Negro sit down some where I could care less about your "sht" that you THINK you are tight on. I'm not disputing OMEGA history, I'm only telling you KAPPA HISTORY. This is what happened in KAN. HOP off the bruhz nuts NOPE What are you talking about? When did I mention a coat-of-arms in this conversation? Whats your point? Our coat of arms was completed in the Summer of 1911 while Byron was in Cape May, New Jersey. So what is your point? WOW did this negro just LIE....? YOU HAVE NEVER SAID YOUR COAT was done in 1911... I'll be damned!All you can do is huff and puff, post irrelevant information that has nothing to do with this convo, and call names....lol...you're like a 3 year old child VD.[/quote] You have been exposed.. Hop off the bruhz nuts niggah
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 11:25:55 GMT -5
NOPE THE CAMP AT FORT DES MOINES , IA CLOSED IN OCTOBER of 1917 WHY THE fuck WOULD DIGGS MEET WITH WILSON ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND WAS CLOSED AFTER THE FACT? WTF NOPE lol Who said he was meeting ABOUT THAT AND AT THE SAME LOCATION? I said he CORRESPONDED with him. I didnt say about WHAT!? I told you, diggs started the ROTC Program in Indiana. They wereN'T meeting for the same things Omega was meeting him about. IDIOT.
NOPE NOPE NOPE
The SATC program picked up after the war NOPE it was already in plans NOPE. Diggs didnt have anything to do with it. ROTC ws established sometime later NOPE.
FORT Des Moines, IA camp proceeded SATC and SATC proceeded ROTC. Get your facts right.
<<WAS IN THE MILITARY
STFU Nope. Now you are starting to look stupid
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Post by BklynPearl on May 16, 2008 11:28:30 GMT -5
This is getting good..................... Who's gonna start up the grill? All this reading is making me hungry!!
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Post by Southie on May 16, 2008 11:30:00 GMT -5
<<Brought some Salmon, Turkey and Chicken Wings for the Grill
<<Of course a little Merlot and Reisling to get the party started!
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on May 16, 2008 11:32:47 GMT -5
Chicken wings...yum
<---brought the porkchops
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on May 16, 2008 11:34:32 GMT -5
I got some T-Bone steaks all 10 oz. of course........
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Post by water on May 16, 2008 11:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 11:47:35 GMT -5
Dayum Cam you were thinking what I was thinking. This negro NOPE doesnt understand that after 1917 the War Dept started putting programs on the Campuses themselves. Howard had one, Wilberforce had on, Morehouse, Fisk, etc. They were all ran by black soldiers who graduated from Fort Des Moines. After the surviving soldiers came back from WW1 the training programs picked right back up where they left off. We established 7 war chapters during this time and thats how we got on the campuses in the south.
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Post by Nupey on May 16, 2008 12:05:16 GMT -5
Voodou, go drink some chicken blood. I'm done with you. I see you got your head so far up your OWN @$$ that you cannot even REASON. You are Persian nicca. I'm done.
-Nupey
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Post by huey on May 16, 2008 12:08:14 GMT -5
1917-You are an idiot. I said that there IS A LETTER, and I asked YOU why isn't it Plausible THAT this could've happened.YOUR letter didnt even state Edgar A Love by name. If Diggs and Love were friends s you say why wasnt he mentioned? Oh my fault you said he forgot..
As Nupey said in the same post you quoted from(and has repeatedly said)
Why google it VD when it DOESNT MATTER? The letter from Jesse Jerome Peters to Byron is NOT THE SAME LETTER that Diggs and Omega GP corresponded with. Jesse Jerome was just DESCRIBING the events of that time, and he recalled having to deliver a letter from Diggs regarding a possible Merger that Both Frats have been discussing. I told your dumb @$$ that the this is in the JOURNAL written By Byron Kenneth Armstrong, and included in that journal is a letter written by JJ Peters DESCRIBING the Possible merger. I'm sure the ACTUAL CORRESPONDECE from both frats included the names of their respective Presidents.
you said "WHY THE fuck WOULD DIGGS MEET WITH WILSON ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND WAS CLOSED AFTER THE FACT?" Nupey originally said, " Elder also conversed with President W. Wilson, and was also instrumental in Organizing the Indiana ROTC Program" Nupey never stated what was discussed. But you burst into a rant of facts about why would Founder Diggs meet with Wilson about establishing a base or whatever the case. But again, Nupe never said that is what was discussed between Founder Diggs and Wilson. I admit, i had to start this thread from the beginning and realized that even though you brought great facts and information to the table, it doesn't dispute the original arguments or any of what Nupey has posted. Stay on same page.
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Post by Cambist on May 16, 2008 12:08:25 GMT -5
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Post by Vudu_Prince on May 16, 2008 12:08:36 GMT -5
Voodou, go drink some chicken blood. I'm done with you. I see you got your head so far up your OWN @$$ that you cannot even REASON. You are Persian nicca. I'm done. -Nupey
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Post by Cambist on May 16, 2008 12:09:00 GMT -5
You know Alphas can't help but talk about themselves. I found this pic and thought it was nice.
-Cam
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