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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 21, 2008 15:36:58 GMT -5
This was not a great showing... Supporter gets stumpedBut can someone explain the statement made by the Clinton supporter at 5:18? Since when has Hillary made INTERNATIONAL laws? >>>>thought she was a U.S. Senator
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 15:59:58 GMT -5
More Parlor tricks and bull$h!t.
If the dude couldn't name Obama's middle name does that mean that Obama doesn't have any?
How many Hillary supporters could name her accomplishments (specific legislation)? Chris Matthews made no point. You could support a candidate based on his or her plan in spite of what they had accomplished in the past.
What did Al Gore accomplish during the Clinton years? Does anyone know? What legislation did he champion - does anyone know? Would you ask one of his supporters in 2000 to justify their support of Gore by naming his accomplishments?
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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 21, 2008 16:10:49 GMT -5
The media is making a big deal about Obama's "lack of experience," but he has done substantive work in the state and national legislatures. I was already planning to compile and simplify the info (that can easily be found at obama.senate.gov/issues and at barackobama.com) about Obama's work as a senator and send it out.
It's a daunting task.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 16:27:32 GMT -5
It's a bunch of horse$h!t. They got the media doing their dirty work. First it was NAME his plans, NAME his specifics. Then you get video like the dude Derrick where he rips the interviewer apart on Obamas plans.
Now that they wanna "move the goal posts" and ask what his accomplishments are. Can anyone who voted for Bush say what his accomplishments were as Governor of Texas (I mean can they even do it today?) I bet they can't. This is more political smoke and mirrors.
If you're gonna ask Obama supporters ask everyone. I can only name 1 piece of legislation that McCain had anything to do with and that's only because it bears his name. If you asked me specifically what he did - I couldn't tell you and I doubt many of his supporters could either.
It's bull$h!t.
Even if I could name legislation that Obama was involved with what's to stop someone from asking me well what exactly did Obama do. You know what? F#ck I don't know. Neither do you. Neither do you know what Hillary or John McCain did. It is a farce to ask this as though it's politically legitimate.
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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 21, 2008 16:43:34 GMT -5
That's my question! From what I understand, Bush left Texas fcuked up!
Obama is untouchable and his "lack of experience" is the only thing that them crakas think they can get him on!
I ain't having it!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 16:46:45 GMT -5
His lack of experience is actually an attribute because the system is what is f#cked up. I don't want someone who is good at using a system that I ultimately don't want.
And again where exactly does Hillary's 35 years of experience come from? Does being married to the President give you experience by proxy?
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 21, 2008 16:50:42 GMT -5
The only thing is the American people as a whole, when it comes to politics, don't think this way, otherwise we WOULD all know what candidates and sitting officials have done. People basically want to be told why they're voting for someone, and with a display like that...it can't be good, even when he follows up with a good post in his blog. Blog here
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 17:01:54 GMT -5
The only thing is the American people as a whole, when it comes to politics, don't think this way, otherwise we WOULD all know what candidates and sitting officials have done. People basically want to be told why they're voting for someone, and with a display like that...it can't be good, even when he follows up with a good post in his blog. Blog here I agree but the same display could be made of ANY of the candidates. It creates the illusion that this a phenomena of the Obama campaign only.
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 21, 2008 17:12:00 GMT -5
You all are EXACTLY right...BUUUUUUTTTTTT... Home Skillet needed some better talking points than that. Some flash cards or something. I would be mad as fire if one of my "supporters" went on TV making me look like a fool like that!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 17:20:37 GMT -5
That's the nature of a "gotcha question" - you don't know they're coming.
I would have refused to list them and said if you're truly interested you can go to his website and see his many accomplishments in detail. This isn't some sort of litmus test that if I pass, suddenly my support of my candidate is justified. It's a political stunt.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 21, 2008 17:42:17 GMT -5
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Post by Lighthouse on Feb 21, 2008 17:48:29 GMT -5
I'm sick to death of folks constantly talking about this whole lack of experience thing. So what. I mean really. Sure Hillary has a few more years in the Senate than he does but what does that mean? Does that mean she will be any more of president than he will be? No. I think everyone needs to remember, President of the United States is a very different job than Senator of the United States or First Lady of the United States. As far as I'm concerned, plan of action is what matters. Ability to unite citizens and make us feel empowered and want to take stock in our country.
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