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Post by No Screen Name on Apr 25, 2008 11:14:08 GMT -5
I caught a tiny bit of him on CNN last night...aparently he's out there giving interviews now about the whole debacle, creating MORE discussion and media interest in the whole thing. Saying that Obama is a "politician", and he does "what politicians do".
Am I alone in wishing he would STFD and STFU?
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Post by Champs Elysees on Apr 25, 2008 11:26:59 GMT -5
I've still got to see one of these interviews. I keep missing them!
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Post by Gee-Are on Apr 25, 2008 11:36:03 GMT -5
they're on youtube search jeremiah wright bill moyers or pbs
also it airs tonight on PBS. That's why these clips are being released now.
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Post by No Screen Name on Apr 25, 2008 11:48:57 GMT -5
He's starting to piss me off.
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Post by Southie on Apr 25, 2008 12:27:01 GMT -5
I think he will be on Bill Mahr tonight...if so what time?
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Post by Southie on Apr 25, 2008 12:27:23 GMT -5
I caught a tiny bit of him on CNN last night...aparently he's out there giving interviews now about the whole debacle, creating MORE discussion and media interest in the whole thing. Saying that Obama is a "politician", and he does "what politicians do". Am I alone in wishing he would STFD and STFU? ...yes I agree, he needs to be quiet. |
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Post by Champs Elysees on Apr 25, 2008 12:27:30 GMT -5
Thanky Ghost!
(Like DUH! I should have thought of You Tube!)
Z, why is this making you mad?
I watched the four clips and I understand where Wright was coming from in saying that Obama had to speak as a politician on the sermon.
However, I KNOW the media are going to analyze and twist this into something much bigger.
On second thought, maybe Wright should have just let this die! 
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Apr 25, 2008 12:33:48 GMT -5
The media has already begun to twist this.
There was a part of the interview where Wright says something to the effect that Obama speaks to a different audience and that Obama has to say what he has to say as a politician. One good thing was that Wright denied that Obama shared any of his views.
I actually think it is good that he has surfaced though. I think as he begins to speak on his views and give a more 3-D look at himself, more people will begin to at least understand his views, even if they don't agree. Like it or not, that "goddam America" snippet is going to play over and over again until after the general election. Wright speaking out can only help Obama. People who are open to understanding and supporting Obama; even if they have not made up their minds yet, will listen. People who were not going to vote for him anyway will continue to use soundbites to justify their decision.
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Post by Champs Elysees on Apr 25, 2008 12:41:23 GMT -5
I, too, am glad that Wright has come out and said something.
I think he can answer questions a bit better, but I like him.
I find it funny that crakas think the urban legend about the government creating AIDS is so proposterous.
They knew about Pearl Harbor before it happened. They knew and allowed Hitler to resurrect Germany's army when Germany was supposed to be completely disarmed. Even George bush's grandfather, Prescott helped to fund Hitler! And we are not even going to talk about the Tuskegee Experiment.
And there was a report issued that said one of the biggest obstacles facing the developed world in the 21st century was overpopulation of third world countries.
Anyone who thinks that AIDS came from African bush men fukking monkeys needs help.
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Post by coldfront06 on Apr 25, 2008 12:49:58 GMT -5
LadyL...more and more lately, I find myself skipping down to read your posts first, because I absolutely love the way you express your thoughts...lol. You KEEP me cracking up, and 9 times out of 10 I agree with what you think.
LMAO @ "African bush men fukking monkeys"
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Post by Gee-Are on Apr 26, 2008 10:35:43 GMT -5
I watched the bill moyers interview, and I'm glad he did it. Although, I know a LOT of eyes saw the interview, there were those who've made their judgment and won't see anything that might seem like a justification for what they feel is blasphemy.
When you listen to Wright, it's funny because it's exactly THOSE people who need to hear the message. These flag pin wearing, uber-patriotic people have turned the myth of patriotism and the myth of "the American democratic government" into their religion and their god. That is a dangerous place to be, because as he says, "governments fail, governments lie, and governments change."
I also think it was good, because this man has been in ministry for a number of years, and to just let his legacy go to the dogs would be a travesty. I know that would piss me off, and I would do what I could to try to remedy it.
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Post by No Screen Name on Apr 26, 2008 19:05:37 GMT -5
Yes, I watched the full interview last night, and my mind has changed for the most part. I actually think it was good after all. I have a great deal of respect for the way he approaches Christianity--it's not about sitting in a pew on Sunday, hearing a sermon, and heading home for the rest of the week, but doing what Jesus instructed us to do: clothe the naked, feed the hungry, comfort the suffering, and most importantly, spreading the Gospel of Jesus to those that don't know Him.
I *DO* wish he could have found a different way to say that whole "He's just a politician, I'm a pastor" thing, though. But otherwise, it was a good profile of Rev. Wright.
I agree with you though, Ghost--some folks have made up their minds and NOTHING will change them at this point.
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Post by Robelite on Apr 28, 2008 10:53:06 GMT -5
Rev. Wright continues to speak because THE MEDIA continues to invite him to do so!
His speaking to the National Press Club today....who do you think invited him....THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB!
One thing I will say....it was good to see that the majority of the folks in that audience was WHITE folks, and many of them were applauding him while he spoke, and as he answered many of the questions from the podium.
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Post by Cambist on Apr 28, 2008 11:00:58 GMT -5
Huckabee actually spoke out in his defense several weeks ago. He said that you have to listen to Rev. Wrights ENTIRE message! He was absolutely correct.
That doesn't stop the spin masters from misusing it.
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Post by Robelite on Apr 28, 2008 11:03:43 GMT -5
"That doesn't stop the spin masters from misusing it."
That^^^says it all right there!!!
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Post by Southie on Apr 28, 2008 11:15:15 GMT -5
Huckabee actually spoke out in his defense several weeks ago. He said that you have to listen to Rev. Wrights ENTIRE message! He was absolutely correct. That doesn't stop the spin masters from misusing it. That is what I have been stating from the beginning. If the media would like to evaluate his stance on America and the treatment of minorities, then look at the entire picture not just :30sec soundbite. Today, I heard part of the interview from Washington, and he made a lot of good points, therefore I am hoping that will put to rest the whole Jerimiah Wright convo and get back to the candidates...  |
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Post by Robelite on Apr 28, 2008 15:00:21 GMT -5
If any of us had a national platform, and felt that our words/philosphy was being misused and abused for the sake of further dividing people, and that our beliefs were being misrepresented, we'd want to defend ourselves as well. Hell, I know I would.
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Post by Gee-Are on Apr 28, 2008 21:21:29 GMT -5
Huckabee actually spoke out in his defense several weeks ago. He said that you have to listen to Rev. Wrights ENTIRE message! He was absolutely correct. That doesn't stop the spin masters from misusing it. Well he's denounced that defense now. Huckabee is no longer in his corner. |
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Post by water on Apr 29, 2008 9:27:42 GMT -5
Brother Jerimiah Wright is defending Himself now because of .... Like He said He is a Preacher and it is obvious that he is very intelligent . So why is he defending his self or the so called black church ......Did you notice how he was clowning at this critical time in America . Racism is real and he should Know being a prince hall freemason, an organization that was born out of pure American racial segregation in America..... Forgive so called white people and stop letting leaders divide us...especially the ones who are called to be a Holy Nation....
Proverbs 29:23, "A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit."
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Post by No Screen Name on Apr 29, 2008 10:03:59 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry to be such a flip-flopper, but I am now back to my ORIGINAL premise--Rev. Wright needs to go somewhere and be quiet. The interview on Bill Moyers was good, but he is seriously HURTING Obama's chances. The media is continuing to follow his every move, hang on his every word and spin it.
Just because WE "get" what Rev. Wright means doesn't amount to a hill of beans to other voters.
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Post by Cambist on Apr 29, 2008 10:07:22 GMT -5
I don't agree, water. AFter listening to him speak last night, I have a different view of Rev. Wright.
This election is going to bring out Americas hidding racism and sexism and even age-ism! Rev. Wright is going to open peoples eyes to things they don't understand.
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Post by ACES on Apr 29, 2008 10:14:59 GMT -5
I caught his NAACP speech. I found nothing offensive or "bombastic" in what he said....I do, however, believe that the Obama camp would like him to fade to black....at least until he secures the nomination....
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Post by Noble Work on Apr 29, 2008 10:20:44 GMT -5
@water you stated "Racism is real and he should Know being a prince hall freemason, an organization that was born out of pure American racial segregation in America..... "
What does him being Prince Hall Freemason has to do with ANYTHING , and couldn't you say the same for a lot of early black organizations?
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Post by water on Apr 29, 2008 11:04:12 GMT -5
Yes i am saying Race issues have created a super segregated society and now blacks are just hating on each other like crazy...willie lynch complex ....Oh this is my pastor but i have to distance myself from him so i can get white folks to vote for me . Oh this is one of my members but he just playing the politic game but really he hurt my feelings. So why does this personal drama have to be the backdrop for Race relations to be put on the forefront. The NAACP- REV WRIGHT ... come on you dont think something is going on behind the scenes . I dont trust none of those negroes period.
Christians who agree with murdering unborn children and give a thumbs up to sodomy are not to be trusted
What has Prince Hall masonry to say about the moral issues since they are in the business of making men better men .....how do they do that? ......
well i know that my God is into making Men turn from their wicked ways and become new creatures in Jesus Christ
and My God name is Yahshua many call him Jesus yes he is my God
work2bdn is The Great Architect of the Universe Yahshua/Jesus Christ?
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Post by Champs Elysees on Apr 29, 2008 11:23:59 GMT -5
Yeah, sorry to be such a flip-flopper, but I am now back to my ORIGINAL premise--Rev. Wright needs to go somewhere and be quiet. The interview on Bill Moyers was good, but he is seriously HURTING Obama's chances. The media is continuing to follow his every move, hang on his every word and spin it. Just because WE "get" what Rev. Wright means doesn't amount to a hill of beans to other voters.
I love my Boo, but he needs to stop giving the media a stick to crack Obama's head.
On the other hand, he is making people talk. He is bring things that we do not like to discuss front and center. Obama said that we need an open dialogue. This may not be the right time, as far as Obama is concerned, but it is the right discussion. |
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Post by Noble Work on Apr 29, 2008 11:46:27 GMT -5
Again....Freemasonry has NOTHING to do with this. Rev. Wright is still a man and man chooses his own battles and make his own decisions. You are making it sound like Freemasonry is making him act like this and Prince Hall masonry doesn't have to say anything about his actions because Rev. Wright is his own man. Rev. Wright is also a Que (I am guessing you already knew that though), why didn't you mention that, now is Omega responsible for Rev. Wright's actions/words? He's also a marine, (which coined both "A few good men" and "The few, The proud, The marines") should the marine corps be held reliable for what Rev Wright said and doing? Absolutely not.
And that last bit you threw in there I won't go into but I will tell you this...get your terminology right, because if you understood half as much as you think you do, you wouldn't of typed that.
sidenote: to the Ques and Marines on this board I did not just throw your orgs out there to run over them. I respect and appreciate what the Ques do, and what the Marines are doing for me and my country...and that's fighting and dying for us to keep us free and an independent nation.
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Post by ACES on Apr 29, 2008 11:50:29 GMT -5
I'm just trippin on how granpa McCain's camp is repsonding to the lastest add the Dems put out with a soundbyte of McCain sayin how he wouldn't mind if the US was in Iraq for 100 years. They're saying that the Dems have taken it out of context. But let Obama or Wright say that about Wright's comments and it falls on def ears.....straight hypocritical....
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Post by water on Apr 29, 2008 11:54:09 GMT -5
That last bit is the crux of the matter for PREACHERS if you do not want to answer a simple question thats on you....but dont come with the mumbo jumbo to avoid answering a simple question........Yes or No will do
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Post by Noble Work on Apr 29, 2008 12:09:08 GMT -5
When have you ever posted with just a simple yes or no.....you post pics.
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Post by ACES on Apr 29, 2008 12:15:12 GMT -5
it's official....we're in a recession.....I'm sure the republicans will try to link wright to this somehow....
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