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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 10:50:49 GMT -5
figured this section needed a new thread and there's no thread more fun than a controversial one, right? that said.... Hypothetically speaking  , if you "were" to haze, would you say that you would be a physical hazer, psychological hazer, a mixture of both (if so, what's the ratio) or none of the above? And why your choice? again, this is aaaaaaaaalllll hypothetical. run em.... |
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 10:55:54 GMT -5
<---checks watch...
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Post by Nupey on Feb 19, 2008 11:05:52 GMT -5
I would say a mixture of both. Mental is good somedays, physical good other days...
BUT TO BE HONEST....
I'd rather put a nikka in the Kut, its more fun.
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 11:07:32 GMT -5
I knew nupey would have the stones to post in this thread!
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Post by EXcalibur Augie on Feb 19, 2008 11:11:04 GMT -5
Big Bruh Jekyll/Hyde - "Oh no who is this I see, is this Jekyll or Hyde coming for me. I better get my shit right, before the door swings open. Nothing will protect us from the dread and if I fuck up this knowledge I'll be better off dead."
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 11:12:15 GMT -5
^^^I know you, kid....lol
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 19, 2008 11:15:51 GMT -5
I have never and will NEVER be in this situation, but hypothetically speaking I would be 100% psychological.
Also, I'm more than a little crazy, so I'd definitely be on the Jekyll/Hyde tip.
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Post by Iceman on Feb 19, 2008 11:32:14 GMT -5
figured this section needed a new thread and there's no thread more fun than a controversial one, right? that said.... Hypothetically speaking , if you "were" to haze, would you say that you would be a physical hazer, psychological hazer, a mixture of both (if so, what's the ratio) or none of the above? And why your choice? again, this is aaaaaaaaalllll hypothetical. run em.... Smoking Aces…what's good homie? I'd say a mixture of both……but honestly the line determines what type of "work" they are gonna get. I'd get a pretty good feel for the individuals during their pre-pledge process…you know, just to see where they are at mentally and where their threshold is. After my assesment, and once the real challenge ensues, each individual would get the "work" that fits them best. But as you stated……this is all "Hypothetical" |
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Post by konfucius1911 on Feb 19, 2008 11:33:26 GMT -5
I knew nupey would have the stones to post in this thread! Did you mean " stupidity" ?  Oh, ... by-the-way " Kappa Alpha Psi is a non-HAZING Greek-Lettered organization committed to its fundamental purpose: ACHIEVEMENT". That's my STORY, and I'm sticking to it.  lol |
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 11:41:39 GMT -5
whatup Iceman! what's poppin?
lol...Kahn, I know the Kappa company line regarding the matter, I was speaking in hypothetical terms...purely hypothetical....
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Feb 19, 2008 11:48:34 GMT -5
I'd definitely be on the Jekyll/Hyde tip. ^^ co-signs. |
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Post by konfucius1911 on Feb 19, 2008 11:51:00 GMT -5
Well, my position has always been: " I am anti-HAZING; but pro-PLEDGING." There IS a remarkable difference in the two concepts. There have been individuals to drop line because of the psychological-trauma inflicted by me; without EVER having to touch them. Plus, I have a firm conviction that you remember the MENTAL-challenges of your "process" long after the PHYSICAL-trauma has resolved itself. Oh, ... I'm generally known as Big Brother "HANNIBAL LECTER"-type  ; lol |
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Post by EXcalibur Augie on Feb 19, 2008 11:59:57 GMT -5
Well, my position has always been: " I am anti-HAZING; but pro-PLEDGING." There IS a remarkable difference in the two concepts. There have been individuals to drop line because of the psychological-trauma inflicted by me; without EVER having to touch them. Plus, I have a firm conviction that you remember the MENTAL-challenges of your "process" long after the PHYSICAL-trauma has resolved itself. Oh, ... I'm generally known as Big Brother "HANNIBAL LECTER"-type ; lol RIGHT ON! Pumpin Power Fist! |
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 12:03:43 GMT -5
ahhh so Kahn likes to mind-fuck em! lol...good shit! hypothetically....
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 19, 2008 12:07:41 GMT -5
**""HYPOTHETICALLY""**
Pure psyhcological. Control the mind, control the body.
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Post by Southie on Feb 19, 2008 12:15:32 GMT -5
Interesting
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Post by konfucius1911 on Feb 19, 2008 12:25:15 GMT -5
Control the mind, control the body. EXACTLY !! This is the concept that got me through my own process: " If they can't control my mind, they are powerless against me; even physically." So, I started playing JEDI Mind*Tricks on them as a SCROLLER; lol. [Which earned me the title of "The YODA*Scroller"] ;D |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 19, 2008 13:26:58 GMT -5
**""HYPOTHETICALLY""** Pure psyhcological. Control the mind, control the body.
...that will all change when Sapphy does her e-pole dance for me... plus you be killing folks off the net... but that's that realness right there. |
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Post by FatalDST on Feb 19, 2008 13:54:10 GMT -5
Hypothetically,
I probably wouldnt do anything to them, just watch... *eyebrow up*
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 19, 2008 14:02:51 GMT -5
**""HYPOTHETICALLY""** Pure psyhcological. Control the mind, control the body.
...that will all change when Sapphy does her e-pole dance for me... plus you be killing folks off the net... but that's that realness right there. LOL! |
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Post by Cambist on Feb 19, 2008 14:10:53 GMT -5
There is no better tool for discipline than self-governance.
Through a regimented and well defined goal/reward and failure/train model, individuals tend to fall in line according to the mission of the organization conducting the new member basic training sessions.
The human body, in all of it's amazing glory, has a way of dealing with pain and physical discomfort. Once thresholds of pain are met and broken, the mind starts to asses the limits of possibility of how far this pain can possibly go and the extent of the damage inflicted. If there is a limited amount of damage, the body soon goes into a lull in which the pain is marginalized. Those of you who have endured wood would know that eventually, the nerves in that region are no longer firing and the pain becomes more of a deep tissue throbbing as opposed to stinging with each hit. The throbbing is easier to deal with. (or so i've heard)
On the other hand, mental calisthenics is another story. The process of helping someone maintain control and organization of thought during times of distress is important. This does not require physical abuse...not at all. See the mind interprets everything the body experiences. Every touch, taste, smell, pleasure, painfull experience is interpreted by the mind and nothing is interpreted without it.
So with that logic, I can make you believe your hand is throbbing when there is no physiological reason for it to be. I can also take you to a place where sadness and fear consume you and the only person that can save you is me...and your guide (DP)
Using this, you learn to overcome or work through difficult times to complete a specific goal.
In the wrong hands, you will have tons of emotionally scarred and disfunctional eternals.
Luckily for you mere mortals....IF I were to ever haze...I would use my powers for good instead of evil....
LOL!!
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Post by ACES on Feb 19, 2008 14:19:18 GMT -5
so most of us lean towards psychological "pledging".....interesting....
I would tend to take things a step further and get into the ears of LB's, planting small suggestions and thoughts into their heads with the goal of driving them to become disjointed, suspicious of each other and doubtful of the man standing next to him. lol....I was like Iago from Othello.....*sigh* good times....
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 19, 2008 14:25:33 GMT -5
LOL @ Aces. That technique is employed, belief you me. And those who can't think for themselves fall prey to it everytime.
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Post by ORACLE on Feb 19, 2008 14:27:38 GMT -5
I would probably be a mental and physical hazer. I do believe that education is good sometimes, but if you teach it and they still don't know then it is time to get PHYSICAL.
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Post by konfucius1911 on Feb 19, 2008 14:27:54 GMT -5
... the nerves in that region are no longer firing and the pain becomes more of a deep tissue throbbing as opposed to stinging with each hit. The throbbing is easier to deal with. (or so i've heard)... " Hypothetically speaking", of course ! |
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Post by Southie on Feb 19, 2008 15:05:00 GMT -5
so most of us lean towards psychological "pledging".....interesting.... I would tend to take things a step further and get into the ears of LB's, planting small suggestions and thoughts into their heads with the goal of driving them to become disjointed, suspicious of each other and doubtful of the man standing next to him. lol....I was like Iago from Othello.....*sigh* good times.... Interesting I am usually amazed at the difference or the mindset of a person at 19 verus 29...hypothetically speaking... the psyche games gets really interesting...its fun to see how people tend to become more rational in time. (from what I heard) |
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Post by Iceman on Feb 19, 2008 15:12:28 GMT -5
so most of us lean towards psychological "pledging".....interesting.... I would tend to take things a step further and get into the ears of LB's, planting small suggestions and thoughts into their heads with the goal of driving them to become disjointed, suspicious of each other and doubtful of the man standing next to him. lol....I was like Iago from Othello.....*sigh* good times.... Aces...you aint never lied homie. I got so nice with that technique over the years, my own chapter bros started calling me "Dr. Mindbender". Straight up left them boys in a state of  Iceman was definetly a mental monster but was also equally charitable in giving out rough and rugged discipline as needed that left them boys in a state of  Yeah man, those were the days.....Of course in a "Hypothetical" sort of way Purely "Hypothetical" |
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Feb 19, 2008 17:04:31 GMT -5
I will be smiting all admitted AND hypothetical hazers...
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Post by konfucius1911 on Feb 19, 2008 20:07:21 GMT -5
I will be smiting all admitted AND hypothetical hazers... < ----- ... is HYPOTHETICALLY not here  |
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Post by EXcalibur Augie on Feb 20, 2008 9:02:32 GMT -5
<-----Not a hazer.
<---- Is a chronic character builder LMAO!
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, if you "were" to haze, would you say that you would be a physical hazer, psychological hazer, a mixture of both (if so, what's the ratio) or none of the above? And why your choice? again, this is aaaaaaaaalllll hypothetical. 
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Iceman was definetly a mental monster but was also equally charitable in giving out rough and rugged discipline as needed that left them boys in a state of 
