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Post by stophazing on Jan 12, 2008 18:16:30 GMT -5
Actually there IS a defense against DoS attacks. It's probably cost prohibitive to someone like SH, but when those attacks first started they got headlines because of some of the big name companies that were affected. But you CAN defend against DoS attacks. impossible. the only defense is to actually be able to handle that many connections. you cant DOS google because they have millions of high-powered servers. but small-medium sized sites... it eats them like a cat eats tuna fish salad |
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Jan 12, 2008 18:16:43 GMT -5
yes it does. and it was vulnerable bc you didnt even have to log on to the old board to see what was going on. Here you HAVE to register to see it. and if the admins dont approve of your profile - then you will never have access. i disagree. it was vulnerable because its a website. I looked it up. EVERY website is vulnerable to a denial of service attack. period. there is no defense. the only solution is to take the site offline until its over. and, consequently, that is the purpose of the denial of service attack-- to slow it down so much nobody can access it, or to force the administrator to take it down. my point is that making these changes in an attempt to make this more secure is pointless. the only way to keep this site up is to hope that whoever was messing with OO doesnt find out about it. blocking lurkers and deleting alters wont make this site invulnerable. you're right - but is it possible to make a site less vulnerable? yes. If i can limit the amount of people who register on this site, knowing good and well they arent going to take down the site, its less vulnerable to going down. However, if I leave it fully open- you dont have to register to see the board, you dont have to register to post, and other things, and when you search for it in google and yahoo and find it, of course it will crash. |
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Post by stophazing on Jan 12, 2008 18:21:58 GMT -5
If i can limit the amount of people who register on this site, knowing good and well they arent going to take down the site, its less vulnerable to going down. However, if I leave it fully open- you dont have to register to see the board, you dont have to register to post, and other things, and when you search for it in google and yahoo and find it, of course it will crash. *shrugs* if you say so. i'm just tryin to help. i just think that the fact that somebody is actually targeting OO means that it wont matter if its fully open or not. if they want to take it down, its going down... leaving it open wont make a difference (BTW, proboards gives google spiders access to the site, so its not really "closed" anyway. i.e. it'll still show up in google eventually) |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 12, 2008 18:22:28 GMT -5
Actually there IS a defense against DoS attacks. It's probably cost prohibitive to someone like SH, but when those attacks first started they got headlines because of some of the big name companies that were affected. But you CAN defend against DoS attacks. impossible. the only defense is to actually be able to handle that many connections. you cant DOS google because they have millions of high-powered servers. but small-medium sized sites... it eats them like a cat eats tuna fish salad
Also I'd like to point out that you just confirmed what I said. There is a defense and it's cost prohibitive. I can think of two simple solutions to prevent bots from conducting a DoS attack right now that already exist.
1. You can keep it to registered members
2. You can force people to type in verification codes displayed as jpegs in order to register. |
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Post by stophazing on Jan 12, 2008 18:26:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure what server this temporary message board is riding on... but I could find out. If it is affiliated with any larger corporations they will have MORE resources to throw attempted DoS attacks.
Also I'd like to point out that you just confirmed what I said. There is a defense and it's cost prohibitive. I can think of two simple solutions to prevent bots from conducting a DoS attack right now that already exist.
1. You can keep it to registered members
2. You can force people to type in verification codes displayed as jpegs in order to register. its proboards. its sharing its resources with about 100 other sites right now. and like i said, keeping it to registered members or verification codes wont help. DOS attacks dont care about that-- if they can make a connection to the website, then it is DOS-able. simply because there is always a limit to how many concurrent connections any website can make. more resources = a higher limit but like i said, shared servers are especially susceptible... OO was originally on a shared server with like 20 other sites. this one is considerably more. |
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 12, 2008 18:30:54 GMT -5
Why are you all going back and forth with this "stophazing" person, which is obviously an alter because they don't want anyone to know who they "really" are as far as OO names?
I mean, come on. GNG, this is your board. If you want to lock it down, do so. Those who don't like, can kick rocks (ahem SH alter). Can't please everyone.
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Post by stophazing on Jan 12, 2008 18:32:26 GMT -5
i'm tryin to help. dont bite the hand, AKA
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 12, 2008 18:34:08 GMT -5
I'm just keeping it real. If that is what the mods want to do, so be it. Those who don't like, leave.
By the way, why are YOU lurking behind an alter? Why aren't YOU using your real screenname from OO? What are YOU trying to hide?
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Jan 12, 2008 18:37:30 GMT -5
ok - i just deleted him.
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Post by coldfront06 on Jan 12, 2008 18:39:51 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 12, 2008 18:39:54 GMT -5
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks GNG! It was getting to be pretty obvious who that was.
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Post by Search1906 on Jan 12, 2008 23:53:07 GMT -5
Who was it?
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Post by Fraternal Design on Jan 13, 2008 12:10:43 GMT -5
Alters are stupid. I never had one.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 13, 2008 21:04:48 GMT -5
Alters are stupid. I never had one. |
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Post by Sista08 on Jan 16, 2008 8:45:50 GMT -5
"ok - i just deleted him."
hilarious!!!
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Post by No Screen Name on Jan 16, 2008 14:55:36 GMT -5
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks GNG! It was getting to be pretty obvious who that was. I think so, too. |
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Post by Robelite on Jan 16, 2008 15:42:02 GMT -5
Blocking lurkers and alters will cut down on foolishness, in my opinion. Many times on OO someone would create a screen name just to say some shit they wouldn't have otherwise said. Lets leave that on OO. If someone wants to create an alter just as a joke, maybe they could contact GnG before hand for permission. Otherwise, I say delete them. Just my opinion. I second. All those in favor say "aye!" Opposers usually have the same right, but in this case, YOU DON'T! The "ayes" have it!! So let it be written........so let it be DONE! |
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Post by Julie Art on Jan 16, 2008 15:44:04 GMT -5
Rob is here! Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Robelite on Jan 17, 2008 11:21:58 GMT -5
Whassup girl!!!
LOL @ GnG..."I just deleted him." She zapped that azz, didn't she? lol...lol....
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Post by Nupey on Jan 17, 2008 11:33:46 GMT -5
How do you get into the Men's only forum?
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Post by Gee-Are on Jan 19, 2008 23:58:07 GMT -5
I have like 7 alters on OO. And remember - I have 5 or 6 alters. The conspiracy continues... Which one is it Damie? is it 5? is it 6? is it 7? All this double talk I tell ya. How are we gonna move forward as a community, when people like THIS ^^^^ are allowed to slide. >>>>instigating for no good reason, other than everyone's all lovey-dovey now. We need some spice. >>>>Thinking of starting the "Damie's the REAL shape-shifter" campaign must go to OO archives to post other inconsistencies... D'OH! |
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