WTH???

[ReignMan19]

I just made a long arse thread and it disappeared


I'm not writing all that again but I will say this..

In light of current events, I see more now than ever that the supporters of Women & Gay Rights are more concerned with an sense of entitled privilege than they are actual equality....

How can someone be a champion for equality but not racial injustice...

[Chal™]

nah, pimp. i need that dissertation. Run it back.

[nyunupe]

Mar 29, 2012 11:22:24 GMT -5 ReignMan19 said:

I just made a long arse thread and it disappeared


I'm not writing all that again but I will say this..

In light of current events, I see more now than ever that the supporters of Women & Gay Rights are more concerned with an sense of entitled privilege than they are actual equality....

How can someone be a champion for equality but not racial injustice...

Regarding Gay Rights, I agree 100% with you.

Regarding Womens Rights, I don't agree. Black women experience both racial and boardroom injustice.

[ReignMan19]

i guess it is needed.. I still don't feel like writing all of that but I will say this...

Speaking with people who in other instances are so liberal, women need equal rights, let people marry who they want to marry with everything seem to be very cavalier when talking about race matters.

I dont see any of these groups running to support racial injustices.

So again is it really about equality or some sense of entitlement that they believe they should have but don't?? (i'm speaking about whites here)

[nyunupe]

No, I'm hip to your point about whites...

I'm just saying that when it comes to Women's rights, it's definitly less of a racial issue and more of a gender-equality issue. I work with lots of white women and they have no corporate footing if they lack the educational credentials AND if they're less than attractive.

Gay rights is a mixed bag, you're right. If it was discovered that Trayvon Martin was a gay teenager, all the gay right org's would've been on this story like flies to shit.

[ReignMan19]

I feel like this.. if you want to stand up to inequality you have to stand up for it everywhere..

Like the civil rights was not just about race (but it could have been) it was about all inequalities.

I can understand your focus but you can't ACCEPT one form but try to fight against another....

So yes even with the women who are so gungho about women's rights but when it comes to racial injustice they are like ...well....

I see that as a problem.

[DamieQue™]

Mar 29, 2012 12:24:55 GMT -5 ReignMan19 said:

I feel like this.. if you want to stand up to inequality you have to stand up for it everywhere..

Like the civil rights was not just about race (but it could have been) it was about all inequalities.

I can understand your focus but you can't ACCEPT one form but try to fight against another....

So yes even with the women who are so gungho about women's rights but when it comes to racial injustice they are like ...well....

I see that as a problem.

The Trayvon Martin issue (and the relative lack of vocal support from some of the groups you're naming) just galvanizes my position that they are not heirs to the Civil Right legacy. I theorize that if they saw themselves as part of the movement, and their cause as part of our cause, they would be up in arms right now, and they have been conspicuously absent from the fray. For example, Roland Martin's tweeting elicited more response and action from GLAAD than Trayvon Martin's death... I think that speaks volume. Their outrage over their perception of tweet encouraging violence rings hollow to black folks often because we know what real violence looks like... not arresting someone that committed murder is what ENCOURAGES violence.

Whether you agree with me or not, there should be no question as to why I reject assertions that if we support the Civil Rights movement we must support "their" cause (their being whatever group has a cause). I reject all the attempted parallels, because push come to shove, even they don't see themselves as part of the Civil Rights movement - otherwise they'd be standing with us now.

Their movements will have to stand on their own, on their own history, their own blood, sweat, and tears, and on their own merit.

[ReignMan19]

^^^ Good Stuff.