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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 19, 2012 12:38:58 GMT -5
Simple question with a complicated answer.
Should biracial people feel obligated to identify as Black? Is there any logic to the plantation-era "one drop" rule? Is there anything wrong with emphazing your non-Black admixture, if any?
Whatchall got?
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 19, 2012 14:34:22 GMT -5
I got's nothing. lol
I really don't know. If we adhere to the "one drop" rule, then shoot, anyone containing a single drop fits the profile. That could cover a whole lot of ground.
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Post by Coldfront06 on Mar 19, 2012 15:10:36 GMT -5
I don't think that anybody is forced to identify with other people's perception of them. If you don't think you're Black or identify yourself as being Black, then don't. I do think that we should all be AWARE of the perception and not ignore it.
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Post by QueenOH on Mar 19, 2012 15:24:51 GMT -5
For most people I think they are black unless they tell me different
I don't care to guess your races, I won't ask your races I just assume black
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 19, 2012 16:12:22 GMT -5
No I don't think they are obligated. It's a choice but if they don't it will lead others to assume either based on their skin tone, hair, music choices, company they keep, etc.... A bi-racial person should not have to publicly self-identify unless they choose. Easier said then done. I know the struggles that black people go thru so I can only imagine a bi-racial persons troubles. Not feeling this or that enough. Kind of like how Tami got on Keisha on RHOA.
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 19, 2012 22:16:18 GMT -5
. Kind of like how Tami got on Keisha on RHOA. Rare say what?
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Post by ShimmeringSTAR on Mar 20, 2012 6:11:52 GMT -5
Rare...that was BBW!!! LOL
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Post by Oldskool on Mar 20, 2012 8:44:32 GMT -5
I believe a person is who he says he is. It is up to us to accept it and not be so judgmental of the choice.
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Post by Noble Work on Mar 20, 2012 11:49:31 GMT -5
Tami is a mess..LOL
I do have a question though. Where did this one drop rule come from? Where did it originate? Are there any scientific proofs backing it?
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Post by Oldskool on Mar 20, 2012 12:46:57 GMT -5
Tami is a mess..LOL I do have a question though. Where did this one drop rule come from? Where did it originate? Are there any scientific proofs backing it? C'mon work, you know that is one of those made up rules to keep us in our place. A reason for them not to own up to being the "daddy of all the little pic-ninnies" running around the yard. A nice way to "hide" their "children" in plain sight and rub our noses in it at the same time. dirty dogggs!!!!
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Post by ReignMan19 on Mar 20, 2012 12:48:28 GMT -5
where I'm from the one drop rule is in full affect... I think most mulattos who identify as black are more settled (Barack, the Mowry twins, Alicia Keys), the more tragic ones are the "I shouldn't have to choose" type (Mariah etc..)
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 21, 2012 12:33:13 GMT -5
. Kind of like how Tami got on Keisha on RHOA. Rare say what? LOL you know what I mean;t
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Post by nyunupe on Mar 21, 2012 15:20:02 GMT -5
You know, the only bi-racial culture ever questioned and debated is the black/white biraciality. I have yet to hear anyone who is white and hispanic, asian, etc. ever debates who, exactly, is ____?
Nonetheless, a great question. Here's my take...
If you're black/white bi-racial and have not come to terms with what American society coins you, then sadly and tragically, you will come to terms with it and not on your terms, because someone or something will soundly bring you to reality about your blackness....
If other mixed races feel obligated to their respective non-white halves, then why should bi-racial people with black culture not feel obligated?
As for the "one-drop" rule...I guess the logic fits the time period. It doesn't really qualify, in my mind, as logic, yet, it is a mentality that has perpetuated over time. But that doesn't neccesarily qualify as logic, though.
Emphazing you're non-black side is only as good as your non-black side' willingness to accept your admixture.
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 21, 2012 16:32:08 GMT -5
You know, the only bi-racial culture ever questioned and debated is the black/white biraciality. I have yet to hear anyone who is white and hispanic, asian, etc. ever debates who, exactly, is ____? I found myself thinking this very thing while reading this thread.
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Post by Southie on Mar 21, 2012 16:56:29 GMT -5
If the mother is black and the daddy is white, you are a bi-racial child. Its not that complicated. I do not think you should ignore one side of the family for one reason or another. That is just silly.
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Post by nyunupe on Mar 21, 2012 17:25:28 GMT -5
If the mother is black and the daddy is white, you are a bi-racial child. Its not that complicated. I do not think you should ignore one side of the family for one reason or another. That is just silly. Depends on, as a bi-racial child, how you're raised in that bi-racial enviroment. If both sides, meaning mother/ father as well as the maternal and paternal extended families participation in the bi-racial childs upbringing...if positive, sure its silly to ignore on or the other.... Too bad that's usually not the case, though.
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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 22, 2012 10:31:35 GMT -5
You know, the only bi-racial culture ever questioned and debated is the black/white biraciality. I have yet to hear anyone who is white and hispanic, asian, etc. ever debates who, exactly, is ____? I found myself thinking this very thing while reading this thread. I don't agree at all. Other races talk a LOT about duality. For example, ad-mixing in Asia is like a sin. In which case, it's not really a debate, it's understood. So then, nevermind. I guess I agree with you. LoL.
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Post by nyunupe on Mar 22, 2012 14:32:17 GMT -5
I found myself thinking this very thing while reading this thread. I don't agree at all. Other races talk a LOT about duality. For example, ad-mixing in Asia is like a sin. In which case, it's not really a debate, it's understood. So then, nevermind. I guess I agree with you. LoL. I, too, am very familiar with the Asian ad-mixing matter. But we all know how many black/fillipino, black/japanese/vietnamese/chinese children there are out there. I know 6 fraternity brothers who are black and asian. I lined-up with one and we're friends to this day. His embrace with both sides are well recieved because his parents made culture important.
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 22, 2012 14:46:48 GMT -5
#shoutouttodablackjaps
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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 22, 2012 15:01:26 GMT -5
I was just wondering where you and your Blackanese self were, Chal
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 22, 2012 15:10:04 GMT -5
Oh, I was just out getting some shabu-shabu and edaname to go with my collard greens and fatback. have some? lol
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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 22, 2012 15:40:34 GMT -5
I'll get behind the soybeans and whatnot a LONG time before I voluntarily eat fatback. That's real.
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Post by Chal™ on Mar 22, 2012 16:15:27 GMT -5
LOL!!! I know, right!!!
BTW, I no longer answer to the term Blackanese (seeing as how is isn't conclusive which "nese" I relate to). I shall henceforth and forever more be referred to as a Japarican.
;D
lol. i kid!
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