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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 11:43:28 GMT -5
We've all heard of white privilege, but in reading an article today on Clutchmag I learned about a bi-racial, first generation American actress who feels that the ceiling on Black success--especially in the arts-- has effectively evaporated (on the very same day I read a lamentation (via The Grio) from Taraji P. Henson bemoaning the fact that TVGuide won't even allow her to appear on its cover with her white castmates.
We know about DuBois' talented tenth and E. Franklin Frazier's theory that the first successful "Blacks" in any given field of endeavor have historically been and will continue to be mostly biracial (c.f. Barack Obama, Halle Berry, etc).
That got me ta thinkin...if there's a Biracial privilege, are there others? What types of privileges have you seen? Which types do you possess? What does any of it mean in a larger sense?
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 11:46:22 GMT -5
Editor's note: by privilege, I mean things we were born with. I'm not speaking about social advantages we receive by virtue of our education or organizational affiliations, etc. Religion could go either way, but if you feel that you were born with yours, feel free to discuss!
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 27, 2011 12:14:59 GMT -5
give me "good hair" privilege for $800 Alex.
I'll also take good credit privilege. (It's generally good unless and until you jack it up)
East Coast privilege is a big one too. Jokers think it don't exist 'less it in the coast.
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 12:16:47 GMT -5
Never thought about East Coast privilege. Can you expound on that one? Is it like how most times are stated in EST/EDT? And how West coast businesspeople have to wake up at 5:00am to hop on conference calls with the New York Office?
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 27, 2011 12:22:53 GMT -5
Never thought about East Coast privilege. Can you expound on that one? Is it like how most times are stated in EST/EDT? And how West coast businesspeople have to wake up at 5:00am to hop on conference calls with the New York Office? Broadcast times are definitely a part of it. The business thing I can understand if stock exchange is there, but I hear some of the craziest stuff hyped up on the east coast, when it wouldn't necessarily do well in other places (restaurants, entertainment, work ethic, etc.) I think that is a result of population and resource density. There's so many people in one space you can accomplish things a little easier than other places. (opinion)
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 12:32:36 GMT -5
I'll definitely have to sign myself up for First Generation American privilege. Never thought about it until today. Here's the thing: even though I'm a part of the current Black social narrative andI am affected in most the same way as any other Black person when the world changes, the specific psycho-social paradox relative to the African slave descendant experience in America, inherited by deeply rooted African-Americans is not necessarily a part of my heritage. For that reason, I do not interpret world events in the same way as others who look like me. I can imagine that my perspective on a given subject (no matter how "down" I am) would be colored by the fact that my family, historically, has not been fettered by the same institutional oppression as others.
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 12:40:21 GMT -5
I think that is a result of population and resource density. (opinion) I'd have to agree on that. In what other part of the country are there so many major (not necessarily large) metropolitan areas? I'd lump in the midwest w/St. Louis, Cincinnati, Chicago, Indianapolis--maybe Louisville all in the same neighborhood. But, while those cities may have the population density to qualify as "metropolitan," I'm not clear on why they're not "major." I can't put my finger on it, but I know a major city when I see one. Dallas, yes. Tampa, no.
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Post by Gee-Are on Sept 27, 2011 12:41:53 GMT -5
Tampa no.
For emphasis.
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Sept 27, 2011 14:28:15 GMT -5
I'd add Cleveland, Detroit & Minneapolis to that list of midwestern metro-areas. Also, are you saying those midwestern metros are NOT major cities? I think that is a result of population and resource density. (opinion) I'd have to agree on that. In what other part of the country are there so many major (not necessarily large) metropolitan areas? I'd lump in the midwest w/St. Louis, Cincinnati, Chicago, Indianapolis--maybe Louisville all in the same neighborhood. But, while those cities may have the population density to qualify as "metropolitan," I'm not clear on why they're not "major." I can't put my finger on it, but I know a major city when I see one. Dallas, yes. Tampa, no.
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 15:40:13 GMT -5
I'm saying I don't perceive most of them as major and I'm not totally clear on why. Incidentally Detroit is major to me. Minneapolis, not so much.
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Sept 27, 2011 16:23:56 GMT -5
Chicago though? I can see some of the others, but not that one. That's interesting.
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 27, 2011 16:48:51 GMT -5
I thought Chicago went without saying. Absolutely major.
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Sept 28, 2011 18:01:19 GMT -5
INteresting claim on "coast" privileges.
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Post by Cambist on Oct 3, 2011 8:46:53 GMT -5
"Coast" privilege? Hmmm....ok.... LOL!
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Post by Gee-Are on Oct 3, 2011 10:14:37 GMT -5
"Coast" privilege? Hmmm....ok.... LOL! Are you denying the existence of coastal entitlement Cam? Do you ridicule the hypothesis that east coast dwellers on the whole are afforded experiences and advancements that people from other parts of the country are not? Or are you just processing?
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Post by Southie on Oct 6, 2011 10:53:23 GMT -5
I thought Chicago went without saying. Absolutely major. Umm, yeah! Now in terms of social privilege (minus the education), I still think at one point blacks that worked for such places: Peoples Gas, Ameritech, the City, the State, had some advantages in terms of purchasing homes, and a "working class" social circle. Today in Chicago, those positions either do not exists, or are very limited.
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Post by Southie on Oct 6, 2011 10:53:57 GMT -5
"Coast" privilege? Hmmm....ok.... LOL! Are you denying the existence of coastal entitlement Cam? Do you ridicule the hypothesis that east coast dwellers on the whole are afforded experiences and advancements that people from other parts of the country are not? Or are you just processing? Give us some examples.
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