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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 14, 2011 14:30:27 GMT -5
These are both horrible tragedies but are they evoking the same level of emotion from you? Do you think there will be telethons and drives? Do you feel that color in any affects how you feel about global tragedies?
Just trying to see if it's just me.......
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Post by ReignMan19 on Mar 14, 2011 14:36:48 GMT -5
People seem sort of desensitized now... I blame the news for their 24 hour coverage and specials... people don't react the same way to tragic situations anymore... I think Haiti hit us (black folks) harder because of its origins and its location to the US.. I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the Japan crisis.
I think both are equally as tragic.. Japan was hit so much worse... but Japan has a better infastructure compare to Haiti.. the damage seems to be equally as bad..
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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 14, 2011 14:43:12 GMT -5
I'm struggling to find the same deep mourning for the Japanese that I felt for the Haitians. I'm not sure whether it's the color/kinship issue, the perceived "recoverability" factor (Japan's vastly better resources than Haiti's), or some Pearl Harbor karma but yeah, I'm feeling a little disconnected from this latest disaster and it's caught me a little off guard.
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Post by Sapphire on Mar 14, 2011 14:54:27 GMT -5
Good topic 91. Exalt! I was thinking about this the other day. I do feel for the people affected by the tragedies in Haiti and Japan. I have noticed that as Americans and Black folks, we don't seem to care as much... I'm not sure why? The radio stations aren't pumpin' it on how to text, John Legend and Jay-Z aren't out there writing songs, there's no telethon, nathan. Maybe it was more PC and cool to be down with Haiti, because of it's size, already existent poverty, and the impact of its devastation (given the size of the population and geographical area).
But with the way things are going today, there are so many tragedies I don't know if we we can really be there for everyone. That being said, if we're not there for others when it counts we can't be mad if folks don't rally around the next Haiti or Katrina.
But I will say this, the Japan situation is the perfect example of why nobody should be effin' around with nuclear weapons and what not. Talk about a way to make a bad situation worse!
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 14, 2011 14:57:36 GMT -5
Japan was proactive and prepared to minimized property damage and injury. Haiti on the other hand did not have the resources to do so. The japanese learn from natural disasters to make safer architectural designs and better technology in the future. Unfortunately, Haitians have not made many technological advances. Also, I believe the media reports things with a sympathetic slant. I feel more sympathy for Haiti becuase the country was more under developed and in poverty as compared to Japan (a wealthy nation). For some reason I can empathized with those that can't really care for themselves versus a country like Japan that has the means to rebuild.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 14, 2011 14:57:59 GMT -5
I know right? Let's see the Pub congressmen bring up their desire to expand US nuclear sites now! They'll slide that back in the briefcase for a couple of sessions.
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 14, 2011 23:46:56 GMT -5
A tragedy is a tradegy to me. Natural disasters do not make distictions based off, race, creed, or nationality. It can harm any and everyone. That is my mind frame.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Mar 15, 2011 8:30:46 GMT -5
The plant had a huge fire last night... my heart definitely goes out.... They can't seem to take a break..
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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 15, 2011 8:35:14 GMT -5
I know right? Experts are saying that they had one of the most advanced earthquake mitigation systems in the world but nothing's gonna stop a 9.0. Just horrible.
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 15, 2011 9:50:29 GMT -5
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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 15, 2011 9:56:01 GMT -5
Yes. I cried for days about the earthquake in Haiti. I literally got choked up anytime I thought about it clear up until about New Years (eyes actually watering as I type...geez). I know fewer people in Japan than in Haiti, so it's less of an issue in my mind and I have been able to contact them so I know they're fine. Last year, I had no way of contacting my Haitian friends. Also, the cultural connection I feel with Haiti (not a color issue, necessarily) makes me take any and all turmoil (natural disaster, political unrest/corruption, food shortages, economic sanctions, etc) in that country very personally.
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Post by Cambist on Mar 15, 2011 10:08:38 GMT -5
The Haitian earthquake was a 7.0 and kileed over 200,000 people. This was a 9.0 and the death toll is expected to be somewhere around 8 to 12,000 (mostly from the tsunami as opposed to the actual quake).
Japan is not a 3rd world country. Japan has infrastructure that is designed to address these types of natural disasters but building a nature proof environment is like building a nigga proof security system for a neighborhood store. It ain't nothing but a challenge to the nigga/nature.
I am saddened any time people are suffering.
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Mar 15, 2011 10:39:14 GMT -5
Ok...I feel bad for just HOLLERIN in a discussion this serious, and its all your fault Cam! ...but building a nature proof environment is like building a nigga proof security system for a neighborhood store. It ain't nothing but a challenge to the nigga/nature.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 18, 2011 11:37:59 GMT -5
OK, it's not just me...... Americans Less Generous in Japan Disaster Relief? U.S.-Based Charities Raising Less to Support Earthquake, Tsunami Recovery Effort By DEVIN DWYER March 18, 2011 Two days after an earthquake ravaged Haiti last year, American citizens text-messaged more than $5 million in donations to the Red Cross disaster relief effort. Five days after the quake, the agency had raised more than $92 million for the cause. And ten days after the disaster in Haiti, Americans gave more than $57 million during a two-hour telethon hosted by George Clooney and MTV. But a week after Japan was crippled by an earthquake, tsunami and nuclear crisis, there's no telethon on the horizon, and little sign Americans are giving as feverishly, or as generously, to international relief efforts as they have before. Get the latest news on Japan's nuclear power crisis, radiation evacuation and the search for earthquake and tsunami survivors. "There has not been a telethon, which is driving me crazy," said Wayne Elsey, CEO of Soles4Souls, a charity he created following the 2004 South Asian tsunami. Soles4Souls works with celebrities to collect and distribute shoes to people displaced by natural disasters. "I'm not sure if it's fatigue, or if people don't see the magnitude of the problem, or they have other projects they're working on," Elsey said, "but there needs to be a bigger emphasis on this." The American Red Cross said it raised $47 million for the Japan earthquake and Pacific tsunami response through Wednesday afternoon, including more than $2.6 million in donations via text messages. The amount is roughly half what it raised in the same period following the Haiti quake. While several other prominent U.S.-based aid groups, including Catholic Relief Services, International Rescue Committee, and World Vision also reported raising hundreds of thousands of dollars each in the past few days, some have decided not to raise money at all. CARE USA, Oxfam America and Doctors Without Borders all opted not to directly fundraise for the Japanese relief effort, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy. And among Hollywood stars, Sandra Bullock is the only one so far to publicly donate a significant sum of money to the relief effort, giving $1 million to the Red Cross. "With Haiti there was a lot of guilt about how poor the people were and how much suffering they endured. But with Japan, it's a rich country, their GDP is similar to ours, and in many ways the needs of their people can be met by the Japanese government and the systems they have in place," said Daniel Borochoff, president of the American Institute of Philanthropy, a charity watchdog group. "The point of charity is to address need. Japan is not making desperate pleas for aid, and charities aren't going to do rebuilding. That's going to be government and private insurance. So people need to balance this with the problems in the rest of the world, even in our own country which has been hit by the recession," he said. Telethon for Japan? Experts say Japan's greatest future needs may be akin to those endured by the U.S. after the 9/11 attacks, including need for psychological healing and infrastructure redevelopment, which don't often emerge until months and years after the immediate aftermath. The American Red Cross, which made an initial $10 million contribution to the Japanese Red Cross Society, says it remains committed to playing a "critical humanitarian role and comforting the survivors." "Every disaster is different and the level of media coverage, often a key variable in driving fundraising, varies widely," said Attie Poirier, an American Red Cross spokeswoman, of the disparity in contributions compared to other recent tragedies. "So it is extremely difficult to compare the level of donations we are now receiving for the Japan quake." And while a star-studded telethon to raise funds for the Red Cross and other international charities may not yet be in the works, one could still be planned. Organizers took 10 days to plan telethons following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and Haiti earthquake last year; 19 days to produce and air a telethon after the South Asian tsunami of 2004; and more than two months to organize a telethon to raise funds for relief efforts in the Gulf of Mexico following last summer's BP oil spill.
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Post by LejaOMG on Mar 18, 2011 12:34:07 GMT -5
I saw on TV yesterday; they got robots searching the rubble and ish. Made me feel like "ok, Japan's got this, then"
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 18, 2011 12:39:39 GMT -5
Americans Less Generous in Japan Disaster Relief? U.S.-Based Charities Raising Less to Support Earthquake, Tsunami Recovery Effort " With Haiti there was a lot of guilt about how poor the people were and how much suffering they endured. But with Japan, it's a rich country, their GDP is similar to ours, and in many ways the needs of their people can be met by the Japanese government and the systems they have in place," said Daniel Borochoff, president of the American Institute of Philanthropy, a charity watchdog group. "The point of charity is to address need. Japan is not making desperate pleas for aid, and charities aren't going to do rebuilding. That's going to be government and private insurance. So people need to balance this with the problems in the rest of the world, even in our own country which has been hit by the recession," he said. [glow=red,2,300] I agree with this entire section. [/glow]
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Post by ReignMan19 on Mar 21, 2011 10:55:29 GMT -5
Ok...I feel bad for just HOLLERIN in a discussion this serious, and its all your fault Cam! ...but building a nature proof environment is like building a nigga proof security system for a neighborhood store. It ain't nothing but a challenge to the nigga/nature. I had to tweet that ish! LOL!
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Post by T-Rex91 on Mar 21, 2011 12:15:36 GMT -5
OMG, that analogy is dead on. Cam is a genius!
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Post by Southie on Mar 24, 2011 12:31:44 GMT -5
The Haitian earthquake was a 7.0 and kileed over 200,000 people. This was a 9.0 and the death toll is expected to be somewhere around 8 to 12,000 (mostly from the tsunami as opposed to the actual quake). Japan is not a 3rd world country. Japan has infrastructure that is designed to address these types of natural disasters but building a nature proof environment is like building a nigga proof security system for a neighborhood store. It ain't nothing but a challenge to the nigga/nature. I am saddened any time people are suffering. This right here is a very good point. I will say that I have not been as lets say "interested" in the Japan earthquake/tsunami situation. Not saying that I do not care, because it is a sad situation. I am more concerned about the radiation.
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Post by Sapphire on Apr 7, 2011 14:22:43 GMT -5
Japan had another earthquack today. :-(
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Post by dolldeezy on Apr 10, 2011 21:12:03 GMT -5
I'm glad America has this drive to help countries in their time of need but I truly wish it would have the same drive towards its own citizens.
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