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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 12:09:45 GMT -5
...what should happen?
I'm all for the President taking a stand, de coupling the tax cuts into those below and threshhold and above a threshhold and then forcing a vote.
I would even be able to stomach the cuttoff being moved up to $400-500k instead of $250k.
Either way, the Democrats should either get their cuts for the middle class and allow the upper income tax cuts to expire and revert back to the Clinton era rates or they should let them all expire.
At some point, you've got to just say, here's the line....
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Post by DamieQue™ on Nov 11, 2010 12:22:12 GMT -5
...what should happen? I'm all for the President taking a stand, de coupling the tax cuts into those below and threshhold and above a threshhold and then forcing a vote. I would even be able to stomach the cuttoff being moved up to $400-500k instead of $250k. Either way, the Democrats should either get their cuts for the middle class and allow the upper income tax cuts to expire and revert back to the Clinton era rates or they should let them all expire. At some point, you've got to just say, here's the line....
I guess what they're running into mostly is time - it takes time to draw up the new bill and get it through committee and both houses and they don't have time to do it without significant Republican participation.
I think it stinks personally. If they're going to extend them they need to extend them 1 year max. The rich do NOT need tax cuts and they are NOT going to create jobs. |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 12:25:35 GMT -5
The bill has already been written. The problem would be getting Republican support which they are not going to get anyway.
At this point, I agree with you...they should push through the bill with the lame duck congressmen they have now.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Nov 11, 2010 12:37:53 GMT -5
The bill has already been written. The problem would be getting Republican support which they are not going to get anyway. At this point, I agree with you...they should push through the bill with the lame duck congressmen they have now.
What person likes to see parents coddle children throwing tantrums? It's an instant turn off and if he can't explain why he is taking this step, if he can't get out in front of these narratives he should stop complaining about not getting credit for stuff he's done. He's not getting credit because everyone BUT him is telling the story. |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 12:47:00 GMT -5
True. This "Masters of the Universe" shit has gotten old. It's time out for the "We gotchu...trust us" mantra.
The Democrats in Arkansas didn't lift a finger to help the District 2 Democratic candidate win this year even though it remains the most liberal district in the state. She's a black woman with a fade and was named by many national pundits, one of the best qualified candidates in the country. Yet, her campaign was garbage and she was beaten by a guy who worked for Karl Rove, helped in the vote caging fiasco down in Florida, AND was a player in the situation where the federal judges were fired.
WTH? If y'all let Joyce Elliott lose for a reason, please share it with me because all I see is a bunch of academic pussies with no backbone or fire.
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 13:01:26 GMT -5
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Post by DamieQue™ on Nov 11, 2010 13:10:21 GMT -5
I saw that article earlier too. Huffpost reported that Democrats were going to punt on the tax debate until after the elections and that's what ended up happening, so I surmise that even though they're pushing back against the story right now, it's also what's going to happen.
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 13:12:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I think this was leaked to test reaction.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Nov 11, 2010 13:35:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I think this was leaked to test reaction. |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2010 14:13:40 GMT -5
So what do you think happens in this lame duck session? Anything interesting?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Nov 18, 2010 15:06:13 GMT -5
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Post by Cambist on Nov 18, 2010 15:44:26 GMT -5
True. Income tax cuts do not create jobs. Demand creates jobs. Corporations are sitting on a lot of cash. Currently, there is no reason for businesses to put that cash to work. If people don't have jobs, they cannot buy anything. Without buying, there wont be any jobs. Chicken egg...
Someone has to suck the siphon and typically, that somebody is the government.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Nov 19, 2010 9:11:41 GMT -5
I unfortunately believe the Dems are going to punk out. The Pubs are not pressed about a stalemate, we are. An alternate solution that I believe generates more revenue is removing the cap on SSA taxable earnings.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Dec 7, 2010 9:47:30 GMT -5
My Prez is once again getting punked by the 'Pubs. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The 'Pubs said they wouldn't deal and the Dems caved. I am so not liking us right now.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Dec 9, 2010 14:06:56 GMT -5
OK so House Democrats have officially rejected the Obama tax compromise and Clyburn is saying he doesn't know what this mean in terms of next steps. Will our boy be able to salvage the deal before all our taxes increase?  ? <insert dramatic music here> |
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Dec 9, 2010 14:09:57 GMT -5
Can't even please half the people half the time....
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Post by T-Rex91 on Dec 9, 2010 14:20:21 GMT -5
But if the tax breaks expire on everyone, who will be blamed? The 'pubs can say they tried to extend them and it's Obama's fault he couldn't get his party in line. The Dems can say that they couldn't get the deficit down without the additional revenue that the rich taxes would bring. All I know is EVERYBODY will be pissed if this doesn't get resolved.
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Post by Sapphire on Dec 9, 2010 15:54:36 GMT -5
OK so House Democrats have officially rejected the Obama tax compromise and Clyburn is saying he doesn't know what this mean in terms of next steps. Will our boy be able to salvage the deal before all our taxes increase? ? <insert dramatic music here> Right! I'm so sad about the Dems and their inability to be tough and stick together at the same time. |
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Post by peppermint on Dec 11, 2010 1:03:02 GMT -5
I'm still trying to decide how I feel about Bill Clinton's trying to save the day. My issue isn't with him per se. It's troublesome that he needed.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Dec 15, 2010 9:41:43 GMT -5
The Dems are reminding me when Kerry lose.... The accord and message within this party is too all over the place....
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