Subliminal Msg

[~DSTracted by shOES~]

I came across this being on youtube listening to 2pac songs and then somehow this popped up on the side and I clicked on it and decided to share and get your views


This is from a song called "Lucifer"

[peppermint]

Okay, I took the liberty of reading the lyrics to this song... 6 isn't even mentioned 3 times. That's some chopped and screwed mess! My issue with people who are trying to "reveal" the meaning of songs, organizations, clothing brands, etc is that they take things out of context or twist them around. He could have simply focused on Jay Z referring to himself as "God" and ran with that instead of critiquing a song that is the exact opposite of what he's talking about.

Lucifer by Jay Z
Chorus:]

Lucifer, dawn of de morning! I'm gonna, chase you out of Earth

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning...

(I'm from the murder capital, where we murder for capital)

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning! I'm gonna, chase you out of Earth

(Kanyeeze you did it again, you a genius nigga!)

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning...

So you niggas change your attitude

For they askin what happened to you



[Verse One]

Lord forgive him

He got them dark forces in him

But he also got a rightous cause for sinnin

Them a murder me so i gotta murder them first

Emergency doctors performin procedures

Jesus

I ain't tryin to be facetious

But "Vengance is mine" said the Lord

You said it better than all

Leave niggas on deaths door

Breathin off res-por-rators

for killin my best boy, HATERS

On perminate hiatus as i skate

In the Maybach Benz

Flya the Sanna Lathan

Pumpin "Brown Sugar" by D'Angelo

In Los Angeles

Like an evangelist

I can introduce you to your maker

Bring you closer to nature

Ashes after they cremate you bastards

Hope you been readin your psalms and chapters

Payin your ties being good Catholics

I'm commin



[Chorus:]

Lucifer, dawn of de morning! I'm gonna, chase you out of Earth

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning...

(I'm from the murder capital, where we murder for capital)

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning! I'm gonna, chase you out of Earth

Lucifer Lucifer, dawn of de morning...

So you niggas change your attitude

For they askin what happened to you



[Verse Two]

Yes

This is Holly war

I wet cha all with the Holly water

Spray from the Hetckler Koch auto

Matic all the static shall cease to exist
[ Lucifer lyrics from
www.lyricsyoulove.com/j/jay_z/lucifer/ ]
Like a sematical i throw a couple at you

Take six

Spread love to all of my dead thugs

I'll pour out a little Louie til i head above

Yes Sir

And when i perish

The meek shall inherit the earth

Until that time it's on a poppin Church

Like Don Bishop

The fifth upon cock either

Lift up your soul or give the Holly ghost please

I leave ya in somebodys Catedrial

And stuntin like Evil Kenevil

I'll let you see where that bright light lead you

The more you talk the more you irkin us

The more you gonna need memorial services

The Black Albums second verse is like

Devil's Pie please save some dessert for us



Man i gotta get my soul right

I gotta get these Devils out my life

These cowards gonna make a nigga ride

They won't be happy til somebody dies



Man i gotta get my soul right

'For i'm locked up for my whole life

Evertime it seems it's all right

Somebody want they soul to rise

(I'll chase you off of this Earth)



[Verse Three]

I got dreams of holdin a Nine milla

To Bobs killa

Askin him "why'" as my eyes fill up

These days i can't wake up with a dry pillow

Gone but not forgotten holmes i still feel ya

SO...Curse the day that birthed the bastard

Who caused your Church mass

Reverse the crash

Reverse the blast

And reverse the car

Reverse the day, and there you are

Bob Allah

Lord forgive him we all have sined

But Bobs a good dude please let him in

And if you feel in my heart that i long for revenge

Please blame it on the sun of the mournin

Thanks Again

[Highly Favored]

Doesn't subliminal mean just that, though? If it is subliminal, you shouldn't be able to read or hear it, IMO.

Whether or not this is real or fake, my greatest concern is in the lyrics that are in plain view and not subliminal.

[BlackPrincess]

Im sorry but I don't believe this ONE BIT! I think he is full of SHUGA!

Also, growing up I always heard about if you played the record backwards you hear this that and the third but HOW to actually play it backwards...I have the Black Album I do I actually play that CD Backwards?

[DamieQue™]

OK

So I have the black album, and I have the software to play it backwards. I'll do it tonight but I'm pretty sure I won't get this guy's results. The fact that the words were so clear on his version leads me to believe that it was someone's chopped up mix. Songs in reverse, reverse everything, including emphasis of syllables and volumes, and none of that happened.

Also if the song was playing forwards, the words that were alleged to be playing backwards would exhibit the artifacts of reverse play (i.e. volume swells, syllable emphasis). For example the Beastie Boys song Paul Revere, the drums are playing backwards and you can hear the volume swells on the snare and the kicks.

[BlackPrincess]

HA! Please let me know what you get cuz I don't believe it.

In my previous post I meant to say that I have the black album "but HOW do you actually play it backwards". I now understand that you need specific software to make that happen...

[DamieQue™]

Most DJ's have digital equipment to both play songs backwards and make mixes. You can take a song and make a completely new one. For example I have a mix that I made where I have the Oochie-Wally lyrics playing over Bobby Valentino's VIP beat. It's not that hard - any layman can do it. It also wouldn't be hard to make a new mix of anyone else's song. But I'll still run the experiment and tell you what I get.

[denounced]

Backmasking is what this is called and it's real. My boy had a prince album (early 1980's), and he told me when you spin it backwards, it has a hidden message. I believe it was the album Purple Rain (Darling Nikki). It was very creepy. My whole body got chill bumps. It said something about the Lord coming back, and then that creepy laugh. The funny thing is the nastiness of the ending, and then discussing the return of the Lord.

[denounced]

Holy Hip Hoppers fought lewis tooth and nail about Hip hop being a religion.

Introducing... KRS-One's
The Gospel of Hip Hop
www.amazon.com/Gospel-Hip-Hop-First-Instrument/dp/1576874974

[adisa]

Dec 3, 2009 19:03:07 GMT -5 denounced said:

Backmasking is what this is called and it's real. My boy had a prince album (early 1980's), and he told me when you spin it backwards, it has a hidden message. I believe it was the album Purple Rain (Darling Nikki). It was very creepy. My whole body got chill bumps. It said something about the Lord coming back, and then that creepy laugh. The funny thing is the nastiness of the ending, and then discussing the return of the Lord.

It's obviously, not subliminally, backwards and the media told you what exactly what it said as soon as the album dropped in '84. LOL. Hell, the forward version played live during the tour.

But you are correct that there's a song on that lp with a subliminal backwards message. It's just not Darling Nikki.

[denounced]

What are you talking about? The media may have said something, but there was no internet like today, and just because they said, doesn't mean I heard it from them first, as is evidenced from my post above.

[adisa]

Dec 4, 2009 12:19:53 GMT -5 denounced said:

What are you talking about? The media may have said something, but there was no internet like today, and just because they said, doesn't mean I heard it from them first, as is evidenced from my post above.

Fair enuff. The post just read like your boy was on to something and everyone else was in the dark. I mean,PR was the biggest movie AND lp in the world back then,internet or no. You couldn't walk past a news stand or turn on the radio and NOT hear (about) Prince....and the backwards message. Well, maybe you could. It's all good though.

[Dasani]

Not sure if I believe this mess...But still want to know what the verdict was on Damie playing the song backwards.

[LogAKAlly <3'n Keef]

This guy is heavily invested into Jay Z...why???

[DamieQue™]

Ok so first things first

As best I can tell, the guy in the video doesn't actually say that song is an embedded message in the song "Lucifer"... he just says it comes from the "Black Album" on which "Lucifer" is a single. Now that said... I reversed the track and didn't hear anything REMOTELY resembling what he had in that video.

In fact I captured the audio from the Pastor's clip and played it reverse to see if it sounded like any other song on the album playing forward... not a single match... not even close. If there's somewhere where I can upload the clips and you can judge for yourself I will... but the bottom line is that the Pastor got duped. He more than likely got a hold of someone's own private mix or mix tape and didn't bother to check his sources. It is NOT any song on the Black Album played backwards.