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Post by No Screen Name on Mar 24, 2008 21:40:28 GMT -5
Here's the scenario: you meet a wonderful person, and you start dating. You date a few months, and you really like this person. He or she is everything you ever wanted in a partner, has an excellent job, is caring, kind and considerate. You could see marrying her or him.
One night, you have a heart-to-heart: this person says
(s)he "used" to be gay, but attended a program (such as Exodus) and has been delivered of that demon, and is no longer gay.
This person used to engage in relationships with the same sex, but says God has truly changed him/her from the inside out.
What would you do?
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Post by Prissy New Year!!! on Mar 25, 2008 20:49:09 GMT -5
I would run the other way...
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Post by water on Mar 26, 2008 8:46:35 GMT -5
People who were bound by the stronghold of perversion make for some good husbands and wives.......If they come out of that crazy lifestyle by the blood of the Lamb.
My advise to anyone who is thinking about marrying someone who has come out of a gay lifestyle and or fornication ...... fast and pray to Jesus for confirmation because it is a matter of LIFE and DEATH...especially the Ladies.
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Post by 123Diva on Mar 26, 2008 9:35:20 GMT -5
Hmmm...not doubting that they can truly be delivered by the Lord, but I could not be Donnie's wife.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 26, 2008 9:41:19 GMT -5
I would date a chick who used to be lesbo, but not marry....
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Post by jay0heavenly on Mar 26, 2008 10:03:54 GMT -5
Thats tough... I personally would have to know that I know that I know that I know that I know she is %100000000000000000 delivered and isn't attracted to women anymore.
It'd be tough and I certainly wouldn't prefer it, but I would do it IF God showed me that was my wife ONLY because God can make ANYONE whole that used to live perverse and to deny that would be to deny the power of God.
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Post by water on Mar 26, 2008 10:15:25 GMT -5
yea God can do it
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Post by Nupey on Mar 26, 2008 10:19:36 GMT -5
<-----Doesnt believe that God shows people their wives...
The bible says that he that findeth a wife, findeth a GOOD THING....
God didnt show you anything, you found her YOURSELF...
If it weren't so, then people wouldn't be getting divoreced....
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Post by CrimsonENDvy on Mar 26, 2008 10:22:20 GMT -5
A man being gay and a woman being lesbian are two different situations...if I were a man I would trust that the woman would be faithful to me if she decided she wasn't in that lifestyle anymore. But as for a man? I wouldn't trust it. If he was born gay, whether he's saved or not, he'll always have those tendencies, and as yall said before, it's more in a man's nature to cheat than a woman's. I wouldn't date a man who used to be gay.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 26, 2008 10:26:45 GMT -5
<----Slightly agrees with the Double Standard Crimson just posted
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Post by Southie on Mar 26, 2008 10:42:08 GMT -5
I would not be able to continue with the relationship.
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Post by water on Mar 26, 2008 13:18:38 GMT -5
<-----Doesnt believe that God shows people their wives... The bible says that he that findeth a wife, findeth a GOOD THING.... God didnt show you anything, you found her YOURSELF... If it weren't so, then people wouldn't be getting divoreced.... I am not divorced and maybe if believers would let God speak into their lives there would not be so much divorce. God talks to me dont hate participate but first you must be born again step 1 Born again. |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 27, 2008 8:40:35 GMT -5
I know plenty born again folks who are divorced.
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Post by water on Mar 27, 2008 9:48:43 GMT -5
Yea bishop Eddie Long was a Preacher when he was divorced....but that was at nupey .......people can say they born again all day but if their heart is not right ...you will hear who they really are coming out of their mouth.
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 27, 2008 9:50:06 GMT -5
Pray about it.
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Post by Nupey on Mar 27, 2008 9:56:47 GMT -5
Yea bishop Eddie Long was a Preacher when he was divorced....but that was at nupey .......people can say they born again all day but if their heart is not right ...you will hear who they really are coming out of their mouth.
Thats my point water. God doesnt POINT you to your husband. Where in the bible does it say that? Wasn't it Jewish tradition that the Spouses were already chosen at Birth? You have no documentation man... |
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Post by Robelite on Mar 27, 2008 11:12:35 GMT -5
Yea bishop Eddie Long was a Preacher when he was divorced....but that was at nupey .......people can say they born again all day but if their heart is not right ...you will hear who they really are coming out of their mouth. You can say that again!  |
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Post by Champs Elysees on Mar 27, 2008 13:05:44 GMT -5
Sheeeeeeit! Hell naw!
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Mar 27, 2008 17:22:26 GMT -5
Yea bishop Eddie Long was a Preacher when he was divorced....but that was at nupey .......people can say they born again all day but if their heart is not right ...you will hear who they really are coming out of their mouth.
Thats my point water. God doesnt POINT you to your husband. Where in the bible does it say that? Wasn't it Jewish tradition that the Spouses were already chosen at Birth? You have no documentation man...God did say that we should ask - seek -knock and He would answer, direct us/find and open the door. He also gives us wisdom. People can "find a wife" everyday, but that doesnt mean that its the person He has for you. What you think is for you, may not be what He wants. And honestly a lot of people ignore that and dont ask because they dont wanna hear a no. Just because you both are saved, bible quoting christians, doesnt mean that you were both meant to be together. I say this all the time, God WILL put it in ur spirit -the red (no) or green (yes/go) flag with anyone and any situation. Its called discernment and guidance from the Holy Spirit, but it takes someone who is in tune with Him and has died to their flesh to be able to hear God speak clearly. I have been learning this first hand with things going on it my life, from situations such as job/career decisions to even petty things like which doctors or grocery stores to go to. If we would seek Him first, and not what satisfies OUR fleshly desires, a lot of mess in our lives wouldnt be. That is what I am trying to work on, seeking Him first. If God is for us, who then can be against us? His ways are higher than mine, so who am I to just marry anyone just because? |
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Post by MochaD on Mar 27, 2008 19:04:30 GMT -5
I hate to say what I'm about to say and I think it is ignorant but I strongly believe the ignorance. ONCE a MAN does ANY form of sexual gay activity HE IS GAY!! For the REST of his GOD given life. Once a dude WILLINGLY crosses the street to travel the hershey highways there is NO TURNING BACK! I have no problem with gay folks. Gay men make great friends but as far as me believing they can be straight and NEVER EVER desire a dude if at one time they did, I find that hard to swallow. It's like a man that gets married. He WILL desire other women and may or may not act on it but I would be UTTERLY disgusted if my man could possibly desire another man.
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Post by GorgeousNgreen on Mar 27, 2008 19:07:42 GMT -5
lol!!
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Post by Search1906 on Mar 28, 2008 10:20:14 GMT -5
I'm just going to put it out there and let it marinate....SIN is SIN. While there is distinction between sin and the unpardonable sin...blaspheming the Holy Spirit...essentially SIN is SIN and God hates it so much he can't stand it in his presence. So don't be fooled that engaging in homosexual acts is any more a sin then lying, stealing, cheating, covetting, etc...Its a lie from the pit of hell. A lot of folks will be held accountable for the "white lies" and "little sins" that they thing aren't as bad. Wake up folks. We all fall short its just that open gay folks wear their dirt on their sleaves while the rest of us sweep ours in the closet. Think about it.
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 28, 2008 11:21:54 GMT -5
I don't know, this is a tough one. I would def. have to do some praying on this one!
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 28, 2008 13:07:36 GMT -5
I'm just going to put it out there and let it marinate....SIN is SIN. While there is distinction between sin and the unpardonable sin...blaspheming the Holy Spirit...essentially SIN is SIN and God hates it so much he can't stand it in his presence. So don't be fooled that engaging in homosexual acts is any more a sin then lying, stealing, cheating, covetting, etc...Its a lie from the pit of hell. A lot of folks will be held accountable for the "white lies" and "little sins" that they thing aren't as bad. Wake up folks. We all fall short its just that open gay folks wear their dirt on their sleaves while the rest of us sweep ours in the closet. Think about it. Thanks Searchin...absolutely 100% correct. Im not sure why whenever this topic comes up people refuse to acknowledge that... *shrug* |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 28, 2008 13:11:01 GMT -5
Thats my point water. God doesnt POINT you to your husband. Where in the bible does it say that? Wasn't it Jewish tradition that the Spouses were already chosen at Birth? You have no documentation man...God did say that we should ask - seek -knock and He would answer, direct us/find and open the door. He also gives us wisdom. People can "find a wife" everyday, but that doesnt mean that its the person He has for you. What you think is for you, may not be what He wants. And honestly a lot of people ignore that and dont ask because they dont wanna hear a no. Just because you both are saved, bible quoting christians, doesnt mean that you were both meant to be together. I say this all the time, God WILL put it in ur spirit -the red (no) or green (yes/go) flag with anyone and any situation. Its called discernment and guidance from the Holy Spirit, but it takes someone who is in tune with Him and has died to their flesh to be able to hear God speak clearly. I have been learning this first hand with things going on it my life, from situations such as job/career decisions to even petty things like which doctors or grocery stores to go to. If we would seek Him first, and not what satisfies OUR fleshly desires, a lot of mess in our lives wouldnt be. That is what I am trying to work on, seeking Him first. If God is for us, who then can be against us? His ways are higher than mine, so who am I to just marry anyone just because? exalt!! |
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Post by coldfront06 on Mar 28, 2008 13:14:35 GMT -5
I'm just going to put it out there and let it marinate....SIN is SIN. While there is distinction between sin and the unpardonable sin...blaspheming the Holy Spirit...essentially SIN is SIN and God hates it so much he can't stand it in his presence. So don't be fooled that engaging in homosexual acts is any more a sin then lying, stealing, cheating, covetting, etc...Its a lie from the pit of hell. A lot of folks will be held accountable for the "white lies" and "little sins" that they thing aren't as bad. Wake up folks. We all fall short its just that open gay folks wear their dirt on their sleaves while the rest of us sweep ours in the closet. Think about it. Sin is sin, and God treats all sin the same. But on Earth, we have decisions to make and the consequences of others' sin is NOT the same as it relates to us. So in the eyes of God, a woman who killed 25 dudes, and a woman who stole $10 once both sinned...which one are you more likely to date? LOL. So I can understand 100% why women would be reluctant to date a "formerly" gay man. I don't think it has anything to do with sinning. |
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Post by THE emPRISS on Mar 28, 2008 13:24:07 GMT -5
I'm not dating a thief either...steal my money, lose a limb! I dont care if it's a penny...stealing is so not what's hot in the street ESPECIALLY if you are old enough to DATE!
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Post by Mrs. Eyes on Mar 28, 2008 13:24:13 GMT -5
I'm just going to put it out there and let it marinate....SIN is SIN. While there is distinction between sin and the unpardonable sin...blaspheming the Holy Spirit...essentially SIN is SIN and God hates it so much he can't stand it in his presence. So don't be fooled that engaging in homosexual acts is any more a sin then lying, stealing, cheating, covetting, etc...Its a lie from the pit of hell. A lot of folks will be held accountable for the "white lies" and "little sins" that they thing aren't as bad. Wake up folks. We all fall short its just that open gay folks wear their dirt on their sleaves while the rest of us sweep ours in the closet. Think about it. Sin is sin, and God treats all sin the same. But on Earth, we have decisions to make and the consequences of others' sin is NOT the same as it relates to us. So in the eyes of God, a woman who killed 25 dudes, and a woman who stole $10 once both sinned...which one are you more likely to date? LOL. So I can understand 100% why women would be reluctant to date a "formerly" gay man. I don't think it has anything to do with sinning. DING DING DING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would ehalt you but I have to wait an hour! LOL! You hit the nail on the head for me............but I'd still pray......and pray HARD! |
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Post by Search1906 on Mar 28, 2008 13:30:11 GMT -5
Cold I hear you but I was speaking to what was said in the context of if the person has been delivered by God from that lifestyle. If you are a believer while you may have hang ups in the flesh wouldn't you trust God. The fact is either God can heal or he can't..what do we believe. While we are to use wisdom and pray about things if God gives a clarity or reassures us then that should be enough right? That is why I pointed out what I did about sin because the statement was made that once a guy engages in the act then he is gay forever. I don't advocate the life style and can't fathom indulging in it but I do believe that God can do all he said he can and then some which for me pokes holes in that statement.
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Post by coldfront06 on Mar 28, 2008 13:35:18 GMT -5
I don't think its a matter of believing that God can heal...I absolutely believe that. I think its a matter of believing whether or not the person is being honest when they say they are healed! LOL. And I guess thats something you'd have to pray about.
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