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Post by Julie Art on Mar 1, 2011 15:35:52 GMT -5
    www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/26/georgia-lawmakers-anti-abortion-proposal-punish-women-miscarriages/#A Georgia state representative has reintroduced an anti-abortion bill that would make miscarriages a felony if the mother cannot prove there was no "human involvement." The legislation from Rep. Bobby Franklin, a Republican, would make all abortions, described as "prenatal murder," illegal based on the belief that all life begins at conception. The bill's definition of "prenatal murder" excludes miscarriages "so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever" in causing them. Anyone convicted would face the death penalty or life behind bars. Miscarriages, defined as pregnancies that end on their own within the first 20 weeks, are quite common. As many as 40 percent of all pregnancies end in miscarriage, often before a woman misses a menstrual period or even knows she is pregnant, according to the March of Dimes. About 10 to 15 percent of recognized pregnancies end in a miscarriage, the group found. It is still unclear what causes miscarriages, but in most cases, it is a sign that the pregnancy is not developing normally. Franklin's legislation does not clarify what defines human involvement or how this would be enforced. Franklin did not return a message seeking comment. His voicemail greeting thanks callers for "calling to give me encouragement about sponsorship of HB 1 that recognizes prenatal murder is murder. I'm not able to take that encouragement right now." His office told FoxNews.com that the "right-to-life" bill is "not as stab at people who miscarriages." Franklin has introduced the bill each session since 2002 but it has never made it out of committee, his office said, adding that it likely never will. But Franklin's legislation still prompted outrage among women's advocates. "These proposals do nothing to prevent unintended pregnancies and abortions," Leola Reis, a spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Southeast, said in an e-mail to FoxNews.com. "Lawmakers who truly care about women and families should work with Planned Parenthood to increase access to proven prevention initiatives like birth control and sex education." "This type of initiative in Georgia and the recent attacks on publicly funded contraceptive programs nationally are out of step with the needs of women and families and out of step with American values," she added.
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 1, 2011 15:47:46 GMT -5
This picture and those two articles just pissed me off. How can you make a miscarriage a felony...it is a pregnancy complication it is not always the woman's fault!  |
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 1, 2011 16:27:40 GMT -5
*throws a ball upstairs in the TX thread for distraction* Hey everybody let's talk about this.
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 1, 2011 16:32:30 GMT -5
LOL! It says it hasn't been passed and most likely never will, but is it just me, or do most proposals like this come from men and not women?
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 1, 2011 16:51:21 GMT -5
Yep power hungry men trying to increase the size of their testies...
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Post by Bunny Hop on Mar 1, 2011 17:00:26 GMT -5
They took that billboard down (I hope they took it somewhere and burned it)  |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Mar 2, 2011 11:57:19 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to the bill? I have been unable to find one.
However, I take huge issue with the fact that the woman must prove that there was no human involvement rather than the state. I think there is a constitutional issue there.
In Schaffer v. Weast, 546 U.S. 49 (2005),
*remembers lesson from Texas gun thread*
This bill can't pass, and if it does it will be struck down as unconstitutional.
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 2, 2011 12:10:08 GMT -5
LMAO
*side-eyes Kyng*
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 2, 2011 12:14:05 GMT -5
ROTFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Kyng! There is one bill that I do want some legal explanation on because I think it's unconstitutional that TN is looking to pass. Let me find it and I'll make a thread.
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Mar 2, 2011 16:03:13 GMT -5
ROTFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Kyng! There is one bill that I do want some legal explanation on because I think it's unconstitutional that TN is looking to pass. Let me find it and I'll make a thread. uh huh.. |
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Post by Bunny Hop on Mar 2, 2011 18:23:37 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me but I swear people are more concerned about humans that aren't even here than they are about the ones that are.
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Mar 3, 2011 15:41:01 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me but I swear people are more concerned about humans that aren't even here than they are about the ones that are. Its not just you... |
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Post by Julie Art on Mar 4, 2011 5:33:07 GMT -5
No it's not Bun.
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Post by Rare_Commodity on Mar 4, 2011 9:30:49 GMT -5
Its look like the billboard was near some apartments. I would hate to look out the window and see that thing.
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Post by peppermint on Mar 9, 2011 8:16:25 GMT -5
Here is one woman's solution
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Post by peppermint on Mar 9, 2011 8:23:46 GMT -5
Does anyone have a link to the bill? I have been unable to find one. However, I take huge issue with the fact that the woman must prove that there was no human involvement rather than the state. I think there is a constitutional issue there. In Schaffer v. Weast, 546 U.S. 49 (2005), *remembers lesson from Texas gun thread* This bill can't pass, and if it does it will be struck down as unconstitutional. |
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Post by denounced on May 31, 2011 9:24:17 GMT -5
LOL! It says it hasn't been passed and most likely never will, but is it just me, or do most proposals like this come from men and not women? Who do you think gave women the right to kill their babies? Any way, this whole miscarriage/felony deal will not work. It's rather foolish. I think it is a crime if you can prove a woman knows or knew she was pregnant and engaged in behavior that hurt her, as well as the child. |
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