Should Probates Be Used to Diss Other Orgs?

[bigsisteronpoint]

Case in Point... the ladies of the UNC-Wilmington Chapter of Alpha Kappa Alpha took a great deal of their show to diss the other Greeks. What say you?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=shFkW40AjBw

[bigsisteronpoint]

I mean granted this is only part of their show...but to take 10 whole minutes to run through this ...like this is classless. Whate else you got?

[nsync]

Hayle no. Stop wasting folks time.

[**Dea**]

WOOOOOW!!!

That was absolutely disgusting to me...I couldn't even watch the whole thing.......

There is so much I can put in this here box. But all I shall say is WOOOOOOOOW...

***sits in a chair on the sideline and waits on the rest of the comments***

[Julie Art]

Ummm, we dissed other sororities in my probate 10 years ago. Granted, we didn't spend as much time as these sorors did doing so, but we did it. Everyone did on my yard.

:shrugs:

Not quite feeling dissing the frats though.

[Blu]

Not a fan of dissing during a probate. I think it should be entirely about you and your org. I always thought Frats dissing Sororities and vice versa was quite lame..

[frozenmenace]

Well, they dissed them all equally. I loved it myself! Dissing is a norm in probates around these parts...everybody does it and no one really gets offended because it's expected. At least they acknowledged the other greeks..I have been to a probate or two where they didn't bother to acknowledge anyone else besides their "brother" or "sister" org. And most of the time when an org disses another org of a different gender, it's because that org has dissed them in some way.

[Blu]

May 26, 2010 14:03:58 GMT -5 @frozenmenace said:

Well, they dissed them all equally. I loved it myself! Dissing is a norm in probates around these parts...everybody does it and no one really gets offended because it's expected. At least they acknowledged the other greeks..I have been to a probate or two where they didn't bother to acknowledge anyone else besides their "brother" or "sister" org. And most of the time when an org disses another org of a different gender, it's because that org has dissed them in some way.

Seems like the dissing is getting way more personal nowadays. They don't just go after your org. They go after individuals for whatever reason. Dissing is definitely the norm down south, but I've seen a lot of rivalries and fights almost break out because of how far they take it now.

[frozenmenace]

May 26, 2010 14:10:46 GMT -5 Blu said:

May 26, 2010 14:03:58 GMT -5 @frozenmenace said:

Well, they dissed them all equally. I loved it myself! Dissing is a norm in probates around these parts...everybody does it and no one really gets offended because it's expected. At least they acknowledged the other greeks..I have been to a probate or two where they didn't bother to acknowledge anyone else besides their "brother" or "sister" org. And most of the time when an org disses another org of a different gender, it's because that org has dissed them in some way.

Seems like the dissing is getting way more personal nowadays. They don't just go after your org. They go after individuals for whatever reason. Dissing is definitely the norm down south, but I've seen a lot of rivalries and fights almost break out because of how far they take it now.

I agree. I've seen blood relatives (even siblings) get into arguments and fights over dissing because they are in "rival" orgs. I chalk that up to immaturity though. I can take a diss as well as I can give one..so it doesn't bother me.

[Southie]

In general some Probate Shows, actually are entertaining even when they are making light of various orgs. The ones that prolong the "dissing" and insert some rather seemingly "personal" issues, is very lets see..."telling" indeed.

[All Pledging Is Legal]

Probate shows suck. Pledges be talkin' too much and not steppin' enough. I get sick of 3 hour shows.

[Chal™]

ok, so off subject, but i watched part 3 of the video, when the girls were introducing themselves, and one of them did a shout out to her dad, and old school Kappa (67), He REPRESENTED!!! lol Too cute.

[nsync]

Finally saw the video. What' sup with number 6???Did somebody kick her in the head before she walked out? She's off it.

Anyhow it was kinda cute except for the dissing part. Some of it was bit masculinesque for lack of a better expression...but still over all kinda cute.

[Bunny Hop]

A one line diss should be it. A 20 minute show shouldn't have 5 or 10 minutes of it dedicated to dissing another org, person, chapter, etc...that's lame and makes the org look pressed and like they are the ones that are hurt. Someone dropped your line...get over it and move on. That is a one and only thing that's supposed to be about you and yours so why waste on people that don't matter??

When folks get married you don't see them talking about all of their other lovers in their vows. What's the point? This is your day so make it about you.

And why can't these people just wait for a step show or a afternoon in the courtyard?

[Vudu_Prince]

Well first these are coming out shows not true probates. Now I didn't watch the video but did they Greet the other orgs first? If not then I'm sure folks know my sentiment. GREET the damn Orgs !

[Julie Art]

They greeted them before they dissed them.

I didn't think what they did was out of order, too long maybe, but not out of order.

I also must agree that dissing in probates must be apart of the greek culture in the south, cause I've never been to a probate where it wasn't done. It's all in fun though, and no one is ready to fight or whatever afterwards.

[Iceman]

I can’t see the video here, but it’s never really been that big of a deal to me. It happens and is expected at some point or another in most probates. Yes, the main focus should be on the presentation of your new line and be all about the Org you’ve just been initiated into. But there is nothing wrong with throwing a few friendly jabs in the spirit of competition along the way. In most cases, it’s nothing personal or anything too serious. Shoot, (as crazy as it may sound these days) way back when, all of us Frats use to see each other’s lines at a point during pledging anyway - So the respect and camaraderie we had for one another on the yard was already a given.

When I hear APA get dissed in another Org’s probate show, I don’t get uptight about it at all. In fact, I used to laugh along with everybody else and let those boys get their shots in as it’s their time to shine. We would just repay the favor when our next line came out. All in good fun man.

[icebraka]

My opinion.........(and this is for ALL of the Greeks)


One thing said is minute, but damn a whole 50-11 minutes talking about other folks in which they wouldn't matter to me because its all about my org today, is a waste of good probate show time.

[Southie]

May 27, 2010 8:31:55 GMT -5 Vudu_Prince said:

Well first these are coming out shows not true probates. Now I didn't watch the video but did they Greet the other orgs first? If not then I'm sure folks know my sentiment. GREET the damn Orgs !

@vudu
You are correct about the difference between a coming out show vs a Probate show.

[nsync]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Omgarsh could you imagine?

May 27, 2010 5:21:52 GMT -5 Bunny Hop said:

A one line diss should be it. A 20 minute show shouldn't have 5 or 10 minutes of it dedicated to dissing another org, person, chapter, etc...that's lame and makes the org look pressed and like they are the ones that are hurt. Someone dropped your line...get over it and move on. That is a one and only thing that's supposed to be about you and yours so why waste on people that don't matter??

When folks get married you don't see them talking about all of their other lovers in their vows. What's the point? This is your day so make it about you.

And why can't these people just wait for a step show or a afternoon in the courtyard?

[frozenmenace]

I don't think the line should have to greet the other orgs. It's a common courtesy, but not a requirement. I have seen frats greet the sororities and ignore the other frats, and I have seen sororities greet the frats and ignore the other sororities IIWII. In the end, the show is about the new members and the sorority or frat they have become members of. If not being greeted gets someone upset, then that person may be a little too full of him/herself. It ain't about you.

[Robelite]

May 27, 2010 8:31:55 GMT -5 Vudu_Prince said:

Well first these are coming out shows not true probates. Now I didn't watch the video but did they Greet the other orgs first? If not then I'm sure folks know my sentiment. GREET the damn Orgs !

Truth!

As for me, leave the "dissin'" for a block show during your respective week or something.

These "coming out" presentations are supposed to be about YOU, what YOU are about and what makes YOU the cream of the crop. Hell, if YOU spend all YOUR time yappin' about EVERYBODY ELSE, I'm gonna think that your org doesn't have a damned thing going for it. What will a prospect who might be interested in your org think at your coming out...

"Oooh, they didn't say nothing about why they are the best, but they shole did diss them other folks." "I think I want to join that org....they shole can diss!"

[peppermint]

Personally, I think dissing should be for some other time, BUT if it is going to be done during the coming out show, folks need to make sure it's part of the campus culture! I went to one for a colony that came out dissing every frat on the yard. That campus wasn't into so the next few weeks were spent trying to repair the relationship with other frats. Don't know if the response would have been different for a returning chapter versus a colony but still...

[nsync]

It seems as black folks we are WAY too tolerant of bipolar ish.

Greeting then dissing is like----shaking hand then spitting in the face.

EVEN if it's an acceptable cultural phenom it doesn't make it sane.

[Bunny Hop]

May 27, 2010 9:31:20 GMT -5 Julie Art said:

They greeted them before they dissed them.

I didn't think what they did was out of order, too long maybe, but not out of order.

I also must agree that dissing in probates must be apart of the greek culture in the south, cause I've never been to a probate where it wasn't done. It's all in fun though, and no one is ready to fight or whatever afterwards.

Not always true.

[Julie Art]

I said the probates that I've been to. Key phrase is what "I've been to" and that has always been the case.

May 27, 2010 15:00:49 GMT -5 Bunny Hop said:

May 27, 2010 9:31:20 GMT -5 Julie Art said:

They greeted them before they dissed them.

I didn't think what they did was out of order, too long maybe, but not out of order.

I also must agree that dissing in probates must be apart of the greek culture in the south, cause I've never been to a probate where it wasn't done. It's all in fun though, and no one is ready to fight or whatever afterwards.

Not always true.

[LovelyInspiration]

It always happens in the Coming Out shows I've been to. It's expected, and the only people who usually get up in arms are the Neos...esp. if they jst had their show & didn't take major shots.

I've seen some witty/creative ones, and I've seen some trashy, cheap shots. I say just keep it above the belt, and we good.

Everybody knows what folks are going to come at AKA with anyway, so...

[**Dea**]

To me, taking time to diss in a probate/neophyte/coming out show in such depth is rediculous. It comes off to me that the only reason you chose XYZ is because in your mind, or the minds of those who influenced you, all the rest were whack and this was the least of the whackness. I'd rather you choose an organization because in your heart it's light shines the brightest. In a pool of excellence it is the most fitting and the most amazing one for you. How can you show humility for one org but be so damn ignorant towards the others when their histories are so intertwined??? That makes no sense to me.

Don't choose my org cause after you played "process of elimination" we are all that stood...Choose my org because it is amazing and you know that you can benefit from us just as much as we can benefit from you.

Once you make your choice, let all the differences between your choice and the others fall to the floor. It no longer matters. And if you decide to continue to bring it up it makes me think that deep in your heart you have some doubts or regrets about your decision.

Save the bullshit and enjoy life on the other side.

[Sapphire]

May 27, 2010 5:21:52 GMT -5 Bunny Hop said:

A one line diss should be it. A 20 minute show shouldn't have 5 or 10 minutes of it dedicated to dissing another org, person, chapter, etc...that's lame and makes the org look pressed and like they are the ones that are hurt. Someone dropped your line...get over it and move on. That is a one and only thing that's supposed to be about you and yours so why waste on people that don't matter??

When folks get married you don't see them talking about all of their other lovers in their vows. What's the point? This is your day so make it about you.

And why can't these people just wait for a step show or a afternoon in the courtyard?

LMAO!! Exalt!

[Julie Art]

May 27, 2010 18:57:45 GMT -5 LovelyInspiration said:

It always happens in the Coming Out shows I've been to. It's expected, and the only people who usually get up in arms are the Neos...esp. if they jst had their show & didn't take major shots.

I've seen some witty/creative ones, and I've seen some trashy, cheap shots. I say just keep it above the belt, and we good.

Everybody knows what folks are going to come at AKA with anyway, so...

LOL, agree, and agree. I went to one on my yard where the Sigmas were coming back and they took the time to diss everyone, even the sororities. We were all like cause on our yard, sororities diss sororities and frats, frats. I guess they were unaware of that culture on our campus. But I mean it wasn't like we didn't speak to them when we saw them the next day.

Each campuse's greek cultural environment is different.